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2013 Hand Plane Swap

by Don W
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Ripthorn

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#1 posted 418 days ago

Sounds like fun, I’m definitely in. I guess I will have to make my first wood bodied plane now…

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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LakeLover

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#2 posted 418 days ago

I have made a couple shoulder planes. Birch bodies and a salvaged/modified blade. They work quite well.

In the stash is some nice fiqured Maple.

I am in if some one would like a shoulder plane.

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Tim Dahn

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#3 posted 418 days ago

I’m in too.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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terryR

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#4 posted 418 days ago

Hey, Brian, can you mill dense woods with your CNC? Just curious…no way I can afford one. Unless I can grab one at the same price you did. :)

Seems like a computer controlled router would be sweet for inlay, or any finely detailed work. I sure tried on the last swap to form a nice dado using hand tools, but couldn’t pull it off using just a marking knife and router plane. Shoulda practiced more…

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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grfrazee

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#5 posted 417 days ago

I should be able to make something by Oct. 15. Count me in.

-- -=Pride is not a sin=-

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jordanp

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#6 posted 417 days ago

I have a small stash of Red Oak and Granadillo Might be able to do some glue ups and and see what I can come up with..

Has anyone ever tried making a wooden body plane using the blade assembly from a Stanley plane (Chip breaker/Iron etc) Mounted with a screw?

I was thinking if you used some extremely hard wood like Ebony or Granadillo and Tapped it about 2” in the blade assembly would be pretty stout. Thoughts?

-- J. Palmer Woodworks - Rockwall TX -I woke up this morning thinking “man, I really hope someone posted some soul scarring sh*t on LJs today.” -- - Billy

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Don W

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#7 posted 417 days ago

I’ve got a smoother posted in my projects that uses a vintage iron and chip breaker. The iron was cut down like a “teal” krenov. It works really well.

edit….and I didn’t finish reading . Its not mounted with a screw but I plan to try that. Its one of Baileys first patented designs.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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DaddyZ

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#8 posted 417 days ago

Count me in, I have never made a plane before …....

Let me know when & where …...

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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Mosquito

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#9 posted 417 days ago

I’m still in on the forum as well :-) Was the PM only for what type? Or was it for participation as well?

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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Don W

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#10 posted 417 days ago

If it’s something I need to track, like participation and type pm or email me so I don’t. Miss it.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Tugboater78

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#11 posted 417 days ago

I wanna do this, but not sure if I can hit the deadline, lots of stuff on my plate..when is the latest a person can sign up?

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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jordanp

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#12 posted 417 days ago

Wow Don that is pretty cool.. Would it be ok to get creative with the hardware (Chip breaker/frog/iron as long as the body is made from wood?.

-- J. Palmer Woodworks - Rockwall TX -I woke up this morning thinking “man, I really hope someone posted some soul scarring sh*t on LJs today.” -- - Billy

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Ripthorn

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#13 posted 417 days ago

Terry, I can do wood, metal, plastic, etc. Now that you have pointed that out, this could get fun. However, I wonder if anyone would feel slighted by having something not made completely by hand (though I guess we do use other machines like table saws and such anyway).

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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jordanp

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#14 posted 417 days ago

Has anyone tried making a low-angle Block plane from wood? I haven’t seen one yet.

-- J. Palmer Woodworks - Rockwall TX -I woke up this morning thinking “man, I really hope someone posted some soul scarring sh*t on LJs today.” -- - Billy

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mds2

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#15 posted 417 days ago

I’m in! Rick M. and I actually did a plane swap while the marking gauge swap was going on. I love making planes.

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rfusca

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#16 posted 417 days ago

Since this will be new for so many of us – do any of the veteran plane makers have any sage advice or resources to recommend?

-- Chris S., North Atlanta, GA - woodworker,DBA, cook, photographer

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Don W

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#17 posted 417 days ago

I haven’t tried the low angle but have read because the wood is so thin under the bed it doesn’t stand up. I’ve got a few older ones in box lots that reflect this.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Mauricio

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#18 posted 417 days ago

You can get the same low angle effect on a wood plane by making a bevel down plane with 37 degree bedding.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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bandit571

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#19 posted 417 days ago

Would one of these count?

Need to make a few new ones, anyway..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Hammerthumb

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#20 posted 417 days ago

I’m in. Do we send a PM to Don?

-- Paul, Las Vegas

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Don W

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#21 posted 417 days ago

And my opinion is as long as the body is wood, it’s good. I take that as the consensus.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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jordanp

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#22 posted 417 days ago

Don W Yea I was wondering about the wood being too thing at the edge then I had an idea of gluing/screws etc a 1/8” piece of aluminum between the wooden angle and the blade to reinforce it..

I dunno, my mind is going a thousand different directions with the thought of this project.

You guys may have created a monster here..

-- J. Palmer Woodworks - Rockwall TX -I woke up this morning thinking “man, I really hope someone posted some soul scarring sh*t on LJs today.” -- - Billy

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Don W

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#23 posted 417 days ago

Look up how Derick Cowen (hope the spelling is right) adds a brass inlay around the mouth of his fine planes. I think that would do it for the low angle.

He here on lj and had a must see web site.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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woodworker59

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#24 posted 417 days ago

I may live to regret this, but add me to the list.. Its funny, I was just working on a couple planes this week.
Will shoot a PM to ya Don.W to make sure its all legit… here we go again… Yee haw.. Papa

-- Papa@papaswoodworking.com

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Quaternion

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#25 posted 417 days ago

Ok, I’m in. This is going to be an adventure…

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newplane

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#26 posted 417 days ago

Off to the shop I go!!!! I missed out on the last two tool swaps. This will be fun!

-- Dont just dream it, get up and live it!

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Wally331

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#27 posted 417 days ago

I’m in again, Funny that this swap is happening just as I’m halfway through my infill build.

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shampeon

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#28 posted 417 days ago

I’m in. Just to clarify, Don, do you also want us to PM you?

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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Don W

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#29 posted 417 days ago

I got you Ian.

At some point, when you’ve decided what you’ll make, send me a PM or email. Please, everyone let me know what you’ll be making.

If I don’t get a request for what you’d like to receive, I’ll assume you don’t care.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Don W

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#30 posted 417 days ago

CFrye you wrote, “Thick iron without a chipbreaker, so no need to relieve the ramp to accommodate a screw head.”
Um…what did Rhett say?
Very intimidated here but willing to give it a go if translations are provided…(and LOTS of help!) 8-)

When you use a chip breaker, its bolted to the iron. When you bed the iron you need to dado out a groove for the bolt head. When you use a thick iron without a chip breaker, .... no bolt…. so no groove needed.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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shampeon

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#31 posted 417 days ago

Thanks, Don. FWIW, I’d like a high-angle smoother, but won’t throw a hissy fit about it.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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BigRedKnothead

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#32 posted 417 days ago

My motivational rant to get everyone going:

“I don’t divide the world into the weak and the strong, or the successes and the failures… I divide the world into learners and nonlearners.” -Benjamin Barber

Never made a plane before. Never used a wood plane before. Let’s do dis. Bring it on.

-- Red -- "That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." W. Whitman

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Don Broussard

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#33 posted 417 days ago

@DonW—Are the categories smoother, jack or jointer, or are they more specific than that?

@BRK—I am motivated by the Barber quote. I’ve never made a wooden body hand plane before either, but I ain’t skeered. Ask me again around October 1 if I am still not skeered though. I expect that this swap will teach me more humility than the marking gauge swap.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Tim Dahn

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#34 posted 417 days ago

Question…

What is the consensus on grain (end grain) direction? oriented top/bottom or side to side? Does it matter?

another site for inspiration: Bill Carter planes

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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Mosquito

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#35 posted 417 days ago

Most are end grain on the front and back (heel and toe), aren’t they?

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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mds2

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#36 posted 417 days ago

Tim, when I make planes the end grain is always at the front and back.

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CL810

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#37 posted 417 days ago

The Barber quote is definitely sig line worthy.

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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Burgels

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#38 posted 417 days ago

Man, I tempted but I’m feeling very intimidated by the prospect…

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Don W

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#39 posted 417 days ago

jump in Burgels. we’ll start a support group if need be :-)

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Tim Dahn

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#40 posted 417 days ago

Maybe I didn’t the question correctly. When looking at the end grain on the heel or toe of the plane, should the grain direction be oriented top/bottom or side to side? I have done some reading on this today and it seems the outside of the tree should be the sole so side to side grain or flat sawn?

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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Mauricio

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#41 posted 417 days ago

generally side to side I believe with the heart side of he tree facing down. This also looks cool because it exposes quartersawn wood on the sides.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Don W

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#42 posted 417 days ago

I’m not a wood plane making expert, but I understand it to be just as Maur explained it.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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LukieB

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#43 posted 417 days ago

Never made a plane before. Never used a wood plane before. Let’s do dis. Bring it on.

I like your thinking Red, motivational rant is working…..

I’m in

-- Lucas, "Someday woodworks will be my real job, until then, there's this http://www.melbrownfarmsupply.com"

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Don Broussard

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#44 posted 417 days ago

@DonW—How many participants do we have so far? Looks like we already have over 20. Looking good! BTW, I don’t have a preference on what I make or what I need. Just put me in the remedial group.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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CFrye

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#45 posted 417 days ago

DonW what’s a ‘chipbreaker’? Is there a glossary of plane terms somewhere? With pictures? I’m a visual learner.

Burgels I’m in. I promise I’ll probably ask any question you can think of. If I miss one (out of sheer ignorance, I assure you) you can ask it. Sign me up for the support group as well!

Mauricio I understood what you said. Yay!

Red I may have to print that quote and hang it in the shop, and the office, and the …

-- God bless, Candy

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Don W

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#46 posted 417 days ago

41 so far.

If your name is not on the list in the post, I didn’t get it

If you are outside the US, please note that in your PM to me, and tell me were your located

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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DaddyZ

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#47 posted 417 days ago

Missed my name !!!

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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ChuckC

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#48 posted 417 days ago

I’m in this one too. PM sent.

I’m wondering about the plane type too. Are we picking from a list?

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CFrye

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#49 posted 417 days ago

If I understood the marker swap, you knew who you were making for and could therefore personalize it, to an extent? I’m remembering a guitar shaped marker…

-- God bless, Candy

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rhett

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#50 posted 417 days ago

If at all possible the orientation of the grain should be so the new growth rings face the sole, meaning if you look at the end grain, it would look like a smile, not a frown.

This is what I have been told by some other wooden plane makers. Of course, I was also told it didn’t really matter and that grain direction is more important that orientation. The grain should run the direction the plane moves. Think of petting your dog, one way is smooth the other is not.

Also, I should be set up to take payments other than paypal by end of week. Since a few of you guys emailed me saying you wanted blades, but did not have a paypal account. I could set up to sell some ash blanks too, should there be a demand.

Be Good
Rhett

-- http://planeandsimpleblog.wordpress.com/

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