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When Is It TOO Hot in the Shop To Work?

by HorizontalMike
posted 06-29-2013 10:22 PM


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#1 posted 06-29-2013 10:31 PM

I live in Alaska. That’s a hypothetical question you pose!

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#2 posted 06-29-2013 10:31 PM

Sorry about the hot temps. It has been very pleasant in northeast Indiana,73 today. I got 5 hrs of shop time today. The hottest it has been is low 90’s.

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#3 posted 06-29-2013 10:32 PM

The hell with that, anything past 85-90 and I’m inside in the AC the humidity is what makes it brutal here. You’re crazy at 107 you could have heat stroke, I love woodworking but not enough to work in that.

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#4 posted 06-29-2013 10:38 PM

I guess that’s what you get used to when you live that far South lol. For me personally, 75 and I open the A/C vent in my shop. 80 degrees and I’d probably go back out to the living room :-P

But, on the other side of things, I work in my parents’ garage until it’s below 35…

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#5 posted 06-29-2013 10:40 PM

I pack it up and go inside and cook some food. Today in Houston it is right at 100 deg.s and way to hot.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#6 posted 06-29-2013 10:41 PM

What Nick said; above 85 and I’m parked in front of the PS3.

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#7 posted 06-29-2013 10:49 PM

It was nice here, I think it got up to 76 :-)

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#8 posted 06-29-2013 11:12 PM

Just put a window ac unit through my wall. It’s gotten into mid nineties and been pretty nice in my shop.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#9 posted 06-29-2013 11:13 PM

firefighterontheside, you suck!

;-)

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#10 posted 06-29-2013 11:31 PM

As others have said, its the humidity that runs me out. I can take 80’s , even 90’s if the humity is low. If humidity is above 60%, than lower to mid 80’s is probably the max I will voluntarily work in. I have an air conditioner installation in the plans. Its been wet and very humid the last week. But temps have lowered also, so its not bad.

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#11 posted 06-29-2013 11:51 PM

Cool clock!

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#12 posted 06-29-2013 11:52 PM

I used to work in a restaurant kitchen in Texas sans A/C. Now I work on a flight deck with 50+ jet engines cooking you at every turn in the Gulf… your 107 doesn’t scare me lol.

Seriously though.. that does suck. Time to build an outdoor bench?

*edit Forgot to mention that that while on the flight deck I am forced to wear a long sleeve knit turtleneck jersey, long pants, a cranial and float coat… yeah that gets pretty miserable.

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#13 posted 06-29-2013 11:59 PM

Didn’t used to have a “too hot” level, but health has changed that to about 80 degree now. Can’t take hot or cold anymore.

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#14 posted 06-30-2013 12:02 AM

A nice and warm 120 in gilbert today

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#15 posted 06-30-2013 12:07 AM

You’re definitely hitting the upper limit of tolerance. 72 here now, so not a problem.

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#16 posted 06-30-2013 12:11 AM

you’re just getting old Mike!!

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#17 posted 06-30-2013 12:40 AM

Well, in the foundry I worked in for over 30 years, it was very common for the temperature to reach 110 at floor level. It really got hot up on the bridge cranes, 130 to 140. But, folks who worked in those areas had air conditioned rooms to work in. I learned from these experiences, so I’m putting an AC in my new shop.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#18 posted 06-30-2013 12:42 AM

Mini-split system with AC and Heat Pump is the only way to go !

-- BELT SANDER: Used for making rectangular gouges in wood.

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#19 posted 06-30-2013 12:45 AM

A window A/C unit is not that expensive and worth every penny to stay comfortable.
One of the first things I did when I built my shop was install an window A/C.
I can’t enjoy my shop time if it too hot and most certainly do not like hot, sweaty and sticky weather. Today the outside temp was 96 and inside my shop it was 73.

-- If retiring is having the time to be able to do what you enjoy then I have always been retired.

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#20 posted 06-30-2013 12:46 AM

Mike, today on the job site, temp thermometer showed 112 degrees in the shade. But we were inside AC working on custom cabinets, only go outside from time to time for occassional cut. So not so bad. But the shop bas been very hot to work in. I’m thinking as we build our new shop we will have insulation.

Airframe, I was active duty USN, my memory of hot days spent in the Persian Gulf, Red Sea among other hot spots while under General Quarters. Those were some hot days. But sure glad I did not have any flight deck duty.

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#21 posted 06-30-2013 01:01 AM

HMMM. it only gets in the 90’s here and occasionally 100+ but I keep the shop doors shut and shop stays around 70. Most will walk in and think I have AC. Now my kiln, when I’m not drying wood will hover around 67. I will occasionally sneak in for nap on a stack of wood left in there when its really hot

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#22 posted 06-30-2013 01:16 AM

It’s always 90-95F and humid in my shop in Bangkok. But on the plus side, it’s always 90-95F, I hate the cold!

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#23 posted 06-30-2013 01:21 AM

I’m fine up to the mid-80s. Above that I can do about 15 mins before I’m inside working on my next project in Sketchup.

-- Don

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#24 posted 06-30-2013 01:26 AM

Mike, I seem to be able to tolerate a lot of heat as long as I’m out of the sun and have BIG fan blowing on me. Our last 2 summers were record hot years so looks like it may be your turn this year. I sprayed a chair with Spar today and it dried almost instantly! So there is an up side!

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#25 posted 06-30-2013 01:30 AM

A bit warm today, so, drink a bunch of water.

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#26 posted 06-30-2013 01:45 AM

Thanks Mike, that made me laugh. I worked in my shop when St Louis was in the worst heat wave I remember last summer. It got up to 109 and we had weeks in a row over 100. Luckily we did not have normal St. Louis humidity. That was what convinced me to put the ac in. I paid $80 for used 9000 btu unit. It works great.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#27 posted 06-30-2013 01:46 AM

I built some shop cabinets today, 104. Drank a gallon of water.

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#28 posted 06-30-2013 01:47 AM

As far as I’m concerned, anybody within “day trip” distance to Schlitterbahn doesn’t get to complain about heat.

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#29 posted 06-30-2013 01:54 AM

Eastern Canada here. Anything over 85 here is considered VERY hot and you’ll find me somewhere in the water, or in the house near the AC. My shop is in our attached garage, so I can leave the door to the house open on hot days and it stays cool.

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#30 posted 06-30-2013 01:56 AM

To tell the truth, I don’t mind it much when the temps only get up to the mid-90s but less than 100F. But higher than that is finally too much on this 61yr old. Yep Don, I’m gettin’ old… but I ain’t there yet!

I as others have noted their US Navy times, I’ll share mine as well. I was an Electricians Mate stuck in the engine room underway, where we had a constant 130F AND +130dB. Other than my hearing loss and tinnitus, my young (19 at the time) body could take the abuse.

Now-a-days I have to be more conservative about the temps and about making sure I keep hydrated. I used to get thirsty when I started to get dehydrated, but now I don’t get thirsty and have to manually “remember” to drink water every xx hours/minutes when the temps get high.

Oh yeah, and I had 3-fans blowing on me at all times and I had to reposition them every time I moved between tools. PITA!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#31 posted 06-30-2013 02:15 AM

Got in 8 hour in the shop today. Started at 4:30 and at 76 degrees. Ended about 1:00 pm at 103 D. All in a normal day in Sunny Central California

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#32 posted 06-30-2013 02:36 AM

I’m just glad loading hay trucks and stacking in barns with no air moving in 100 + Idaho sun are long since behind me. Anything else i did working in boiler rooms ect was a pleasure by comparison ;-)

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#33 posted 06-30-2013 02:38 AM

It got to 97F with the usual high humidity here in south Louisiana. No shop time today for me. I wimped out and watched some Wimbledon tennis matches.

I do have a 9’ diameter Big Ass Fan in my shop, and it magically turns my shop from an oven . . . in to a convection oven. Even though it’s hot, it is still workable when the outside air temps or in the low 90’s. I don’t have a thermometer in the shop so i really don’t know how hot it gets. When I start dripping sweat on my workpieces, I look for other options.

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#34 posted 06-30-2013 02:56 AM

Oh 10-4 on dripping sweat on all that cast iron! That may be the only self regulation/rule that I live by. That is why I use so many fans, just trying to keep from “dripping”. I have watched a sweat drop form a rust spot in under 5-minutes. If I really start getting sweaty, I”ll quit and go inside. The low humidity heat is mostly what I was OP-ing about.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#35 posted 06-30-2013 03:12 AM

In a word NEVER!......unless that horned guy pokes his trident at me. Then, and only then is it too hot to work.

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#36 posted 06-30-2013 03:25 AM

I have wished over and over how nice it would be to have a larger shop. However I am stuck with this one car garage which is fully insulated and cooled by a mini split/w heat pump.

75 in the garage all day today – 105-7 outside.

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#37 posted 06-30-2013 04:01 AM

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#38 posted 06-30-2013 04:08 AM

Yep!

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#39 posted 06-30-2013 04:20 AM

If its dry low hundreds is tolerable, but with our normal humidity in northern kentucky, im lookin for ac around 85F

Im a cold weather kinda guy, ill run around in tshrts and a pair if jeans down into the negatives

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#40 posted 06-30-2013 09:42 AM

depends on how bad i want to get something done.last year i had projects going i needed done so it didn’t get to hot,but this year i’ve stayed away from many.so now 90 is my max i start sweating at 75 degree’s and sweat and sawdust don’t go good together for me.cause every thing i touch i leave sweat on.

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#41 posted 06-30-2013 10:36 AM

Feelin’ sorry for my southwest friends wilting in the heat. Feelin’ kinda blessed right now to be living in the armpit of the northeast. Western NY state (near Niagara Falls, NOT NY City). It’s about 6:30am and the temp outside is 61. I think the high is supposed to be 73 today. I think we’re about double the normal for rainfall for June though so if y’all wouldn’t mind NOT pushing any more of that my way, I’d appreciate it. We’ll be up into the 80s by next weekend I think.

My shop is neither heated nor cooled so I’ll be complaining about it being too hot or too cold from time to time I’m sure, but all things are relative I guess. I have to do some insulating today as I’m remodeling part of the shop and glad it’s a little cooler as insulation and sweat is never a good combination.

Oh and just to be on topic here…. 80 or 85 in the shop and I’m done. I turn 61 this year and find myself becoming less and less tolerant of temperature extremes. When it gets hot, I’ll head to the house and get into the AC.

Stay safe.

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#42 posted 06-30-2013 12:48 PM

For me personally, whenever it gets so hot that I don’t enjoy it, I leave the shop. Some of it is safety – me, personally, if the weather is hot enough to make me irritable, I am much more likely to make mistakes. Better to lose a day than lose a digit!

This discussion reminds of the time, about 5 years ago, when I took a week’s vacation to build a deck on my house.

That entire week it never fell below 95 F. What are you gonna do? I’d taken the week off and the deck had to be built so I shut up and soldiered! Now, I wasn’t moving real fast, I drank lotsa water and took lotsa breaks. But the deck got built!

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#43 posted 06-30-2013 01:19 PM

I quit when it gets to be 95. When it’s above 85 it’s time to drink plenty of water and take a few extra breaks.

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#44 posted 06-30-2013 01:40 PM

On vacation in Mountain Home, Ar. and it is a cool 70º here this morning!

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#45 posted 06-30-2013 01:54 PM

When the sweat is running down my glasses and I can’t see what I’m doing, it’s time to come inside.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#46 posted 06-30-2013 02:24 PM

In my country (Cyprus) temperature easily goes to 40c-42c=104f-108f and that’s under shade.
Inside my shop due to the drywall+OSB partition I have from the Showroom which is all glass, things are cooler but still it gets hot, so I use couple of fans and if things are very bad I switch on the AC for 30 minutes to cool down, electricity here is more expensive than a rent

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#47 posted 06-30-2013 03:06 PM

Holy cow! Where do you live? That’s crazy. I feel pretty lucky to have a small window unit in my shop. But I live in southern Indiana and today looks like it’s not going to get much above 77. So I’ll be leaving that AC off and throw the doors open.
But yeah… I’d say the temps you have… it’s too hot to work. I don’t know how you lasted that long yesterday.

With that said… I better get out and enjoy this weather and build something today :)

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#48 posted 06-30-2013 04:28 PM

107 is way too hot to do anything but swim.

I’ve lived my whole life in the south, and rarely ever worked in a plant or shop that had AC. If it’s 100 outside it would be at least that inside. Production slows down, and the most valued machines are the fans. At the end of the day sawdust is glued to your skin with sweat. For me at home, 90, 95 is about it.

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#49 posted 06-30-2013 04:29 PM

Simple, I use the same schedule as my “Day Job” has. 1900 hrs – 0710 hrs. From about 2200 on, it starts to get downright chilly…

I also have a BASEMENT Shop….....

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#50 posted 07-01-2013 01:31 AM

Mini-split, with AC and Heat Pump ! :o) The only way to go ! :o))

-- BELT SANDER: Used for making rectangular gouges in wood.

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