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Where to buy saw files?

by chrisstef
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#1 posted 334 days ago

eBay.

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#2 posted 334 days ago

Have you tried Munnell & Sherrill? A guy I work with is way into hand saws and chain saws, and he has a whole bunch of Simonds files, they are an authorized dealer of Simonds and Armstrong files, and have good pricing.

http://www.munnell-sherrill.com/pages/product_pages/saw.html

Their web page kind of sucks, you may have to have them mail you a product catalog but they have good stuff and even run specials now and then.

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#3 posted 334 days ago

Thanks for the tips fellas. I plan on looking into both tonight.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#4 posted 334 days ago

What are you trying to say? Switzerland is lazy?

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#5 posted 334 days ago

They’re neutral on the subject Tony.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#6 posted 334 days ago

Since Nicholson went to pot, Grobet is basically the only supplier of saw files for all of Europe and the US. I’d imagine they’re having a hard time keeping up, particularly since saw files are small and cheap and likely low margin.

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#7 posted 334 days ago

That’s pretty much it Rich. When you’re the only one in the game and there’s a resurgence in the market, this is what ya get. Long lead times.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#8 posted 334 days ago

^ You mean impatient customers?

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#9 posted 334 days ago

You forgot procrastinating Tony. I don’t make any bones about it. Im a last minute kinda guy.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#10 posted 334 days ago

I’ve no doubt about the minute part.

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#11 posted 334 days ago

Sounds like a good opportunity for someone looking to fill the gap. Now who knows the first thing about file-making? And I don’t mean, right click, New File.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#12 posted 334 days ago

I was watching Roy last night and he had C Schwarz on making an English layout square and they had gotten to talking about files and what separates a good one from a not so good one. The machine cut ones have rows of teeth in a uniform pattern which make them tend to “hop” around. He had said that the good ones have no pattern to them and are punched out by hand in a non descript pattern making them cut smoother without the “hop”. I thought that was some pretty good info.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#13 posted 334 days ago

That’s what I hear about rasps, and that’s why Ariou rasps or other hand-made one are preferrable.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#14 posted 334 days ago

They were referring to files or rasps?

Edit – Brandon is a quicker draw.

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#15 posted 334 days ago

Ahh goo – they were talkin rasps. My bad.

Apparently I don’t know the first thing about files lol.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#16 posted 334 days ago

It really is ignorant of all the great tool brands to forget that quality products is what made them great in the first place, and go off chasing the buck. Moving production from factories where the workers developed skills for decades and were dedicated to their products and their employers to go to off shore or across the borders to where only cheap labor is king.

Oh, wait. I guess unions convinced those dedicated workers that the man was only looking to screw the poor workers and hoard all those ill begotten profits. Progressives convinced most of the people that those damn factories only wanted to destroy the environment and pollute all our air. Better to send all that nasty old manufacturing crap somewhere else so we can have clean air and stuff.

So, take a deep breath of that clean air and pass the empty time playing with whatever you find at the bottom of those empty pockets, because we asked for this.,

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#17 posted 334 days ago

I didn’t ask for that; i asked for a pony.

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#18 posted 334 days ago

Look HERE.

Toby

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#19 posted 334 days ago

And HERE.

Toby

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#20 posted 334 days ago

Thanks Toby!

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#21 posted 334 days ago

Search British ebay for “bahco saw file” it do what it say on the box…

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#22 posted 334 days ago

+100 for Crank49

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#23 posted 334 days ago

Chris you could try a local machine tool supply company. They might / should have the files you need.

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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#24 posted 334 days ago

Good thought Dan. Im on mission.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#25 posted 334 days ago

I recently purchased a set of Grobet files here…

Tools for Working Wood

Keep checking, they seem to bounce between in and out of stock every couple of weeks.

 

Nicholson and many other common tool brands are owned by Apex Tool Group. Apex is owned by Bain Capital.

 

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#26 posted 334 days ago

Yeah Bahco is your other option if Grobet’s are out of stock. Amazon has Grobet’s too if you want to stock up and buy 12 of each type you need for something like $36. At $3 for each file that’s less than half what you’d pay per file elsewhere. Shipping is around $15, but if you contact the seller, it looks like they will combine shipping if you buy a few sizes at one time. If they will, at that price it’s still worth tossing some in a flat rate shipping box and splitting it with someone.

Edit: I just looked and Lee Valley has everything but the 6” Double Extra Slim File (9 – 10 tpi) in stock. But of course, I’m sure that’s the one you need. Unless it’s a critical saw, you can get buy with the files above or below it though.

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#27 posted 334 days ago

Gorbet works at my place.
Nicholson went to crap when they outsourced mfgr.

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#28 posted 333 days ago

Chris, McMaster-Carr has files.

-- Mike

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#29 posted 333 days ago

Right on fellas, ive got some hunting to do. At this point I might as well pick up a half dozen of each and sell them on the black market ;)

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#30 posted 333 days ago

You should be able to find any file that you need for anything at either MSC or MacMaster Carr#.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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#31 posted 333 days ago

Wow look at all that good stuff on ebay!
Why doesn’t someone make files impregnated with diamonds and be done with it?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#32 posted 333 days ago

HERE.

HERE.

They’re out there.

Toby

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#33 posted 333 days ago

Oh so those are actually encrusted with diamonds huh? Has anyone tried those on hand saws?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#34 posted 332 days ago

If you want to order smaller quantities of diamond triangular files, try Lee Valley:

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=70614&cat=51&ap=2

I haven’t tried them, but see no reason they wouldn’t work. I have a bunch of Grobet files now, but I think I’ll try the diamond ones when these wear out.

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#35 posted 332 days ago

That’s cool but only the triangular one would work for saw filing and they are not sold individually.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#36 posted 332 days ago

Yeah, but all the Alibaba links are for 10+ sets or boxes of 100+. The lopacki link at least allows individual purchase. If diamond triangular files work for saw sharpening, you should really only need a coarse and fine and that should do you for many, many years.

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#37 posted 328 days ago

Stef, don’t forget if you grab Grobet files, get the S-files in the red checkered box…not the blue one!

Andy’s post on the Saw Restoration Forum was very informative:

http://lumberjocks.com/replies/607310

I’m still looking for real saw files myself…gonna start searching for the name Vallorbe…

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#38 posted 328 days ago

Terry, thanks for posting that. I had tried to find it and gave up.

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#39 posted 328 days ago

Swiss Vallorbe Slim

Toby

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#40 posted 328 days ago

Vallorbe Files=

Toby

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#41 posted 328 days ago

vallorbe files

Toby

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#42 posted 313 days ago

All right gang im getting around to picking up the files I need ... here’s my MMC order … hows it look? I know im missing 2 saw sets and im a little leery about not knowing exactly what brand of files im getting so I wanted to submit it to the group for verification.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#43 posted 313 days ago

Hmm emailed MMC and they do not provide the manufacturers name that is associated with the files. Anyone know which brand they carry? I emailed them back and said as long as it wasn’t made in mexico Nicholson or the made in india grobets I was cool with it. That would widdle it down pretty good IMO. Id like to see the vallorbes of the swiss grobets. I just don’t wanna dump $50 on a handful of files that crumble apart. I also know very little about their return policy. Any info appreciated.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#44 posted 313 days ago

Return email states “We do not release manufacturer information” “you can return them if they’re not what you want” ... wtf? I mean honestly if you stand behind what ya sell why wouldn’t you give that kind of information out.

I directly asked “I just wanted to make sure they aren’t the made in mexico nicholsons or india made grobets. If you can confirm that I will place my order”. Im pretty leery now about ordering from them. I know I could return them but id rather have a good product to begin with and it smells like im getting one of those two brands mentioned above.

Kinda like buying furniture at WalMart. If I wanted a piece of $hit id buy a piece of $hit. I want the good stuff baby.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#45 posted 313 days ago

That reply says bargain basement outsourced to me. Or they just get whatever is cheaper at the time and don’t want to track who the manufacturer is. That also says bargain basement outsourced production.

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#46 posted 313 days ago

You don’t release manufacture’s name?

That’s funny because I don’t release funds when you’re ambiguous.

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#47 posted 313 days ago

Just went to LV site to check on my backordered saw sharpening setup: Expected delivery September! Bummer.

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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#48 posted 313 days ago

Ya know i went to mcmaster because tgey had a strong reputation. Guess i was wrong. Ill send a reply email to them expressing my dissapointment. Ill keep ya guys posted.

Kinda bummed myself here cl810.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#49 posted 313 days ago

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#50 posted 313 days ago

why don’t you just buy 1 and see what quality it is? I’ve only been buyuing from McMaster for a few months, but everything I’ve recieved I’ve been happy with, and their shipping cost seem really reasonable.

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