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Seeking Router Advice

by KelvinGrove
posted 04-29-2013 08:26 PM


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DS

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#1 posted 04-29-2013 08:32 PM

If you’re mounting this into a table, homemade or otherwise, you’ll want a quality router plate (or a lift, depending on available $$) set into your table. This simplifies tool changes and setups. Every now and again Rockler puts thiers on sale for around $35.

Nice choice on the PC 892, btw. You won’t regret having a nice router.
(You might regret having only one of them, though.)

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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KelvinGrove

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#2 posted 04-29-2013 08:38 PM

Thanks DS. Putting something my grand dad used to say: Buy one…a good one…for now and forever – Amen.

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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KelvinGrove

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#3 posted 04-29-2013 08:53 PM

And it looks like this little jewel.

is a must have!

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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Loren

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#4 posted 04-29-2013 08:55 PM

You won’t go too far wrong with Porter Cable (or Dewalt,
which are both Black and Decker brands and benefit from
many of the same patents).

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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KelvinGrove

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#5 posted 04-29-2013 08:58 PM

Thanks Loren. I considered the Dewalt (I have this yellow them going already) but I have seen a more good reviews for the Porter Cable. And to tell the truth…I am a poor kid! Also, I would like anyone’s opinion on the above the table adjustment tool shown above. Anyone using it?

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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JSilverman

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#6 posted 04-29-2013 09:24 PM

check out woodpeckers and benchdog for router table accessories- they have a lot of options.
A good mounting plate is important, a lift is a convenience.
make a good table top (nice laminate top) and fence- no need to buy them—you are a woodworker after all :)
and don’t forget to build dust collection port into the fence. The fence should have T-track for hold-downs and other accessories and the opening should be adjustable.
the table should also have T-track in it for both feather boards and a miter gauge—you can get a combo track for that.

I think the PC, Bosch and Triton routers all do well in tables—if you will not be hand holding this one consider a 3 hp router for the table. for hand use they are a bit heavy but in tables they are great.

good luck

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pintodeluxe

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#7 posted 04-29-2013 09:28 PM

With the Porter Cable, be aware that you will be using a bent wrench to change the bits in a router table. This means the collet doesn’t extend far enough above the table to change bits with a straight wrench.
Freud and Triton routers have solved this issue.
I don’t think you will go wrong with the P.C. though.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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NiteWalker

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#8 posted 04-29-2013 09:29 PM

IMHO, I would have skipped the 892 and went for the bosch 1617EVS instead. It has a good track record and is usually cheaper.
The 892 is a good router, but not so much a good deal.

For table construction, 2 pieces of 3/4” MDF glued together with hardwood edges, then plastic laminate on top make a great table top. I’m a big fan of incra’s magnalock insert plates. They have the best ring insert system available, and are a full 3/8” thick aluminum.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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KomputerMan

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#9 posted 04-29-2013 09:37 PM

I would suggest purchasing a router that has a plunge adapter too. I have a mount on my router table and a plunge adapter. It takes only seconds to pull the router from the table and put it into the plunger and that gives me all sorts of flexibility with the tool. Then again I love to build decorative inlays like my avatar shows!!! :)

-- Have an Ordinary Day ~|:-)

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KelvinGrove

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#10 posted 04-29-2013 10:50 PM

Nite, or anyone else,can I do above the table adjustments with the Bosch?

Komp, one reason I am looking at the 892 is the plunge base availability.

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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sprucegum

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#11 posted 04-29-2013 11:07 PM

I have a older porta cable and a new makita like them both. My new makita is almost identical to the old porta cable. You can never have too many routers or too many fish poles.

-- A tube of calk and a gallon of paint will make a carpenter what he ain't

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KelvinGrove

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#12 posted 04-29-2013 11:42 PM

Funny you should say that Spruce…I am in the market for a 7 foot medium bait casting rig as well.

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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Tennessee

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#13 posted 04-29-2013 11:46 PM

I own the Porter Cable Plunge/standard setup router set #892, and it just sits around my shop, while my two Bosch routers, the 1617EVS mentioned by Nitewalker stays permanently in my router table in a stationary base, and my go-to daily router is a second Bosch 1617EVS in a plunge setup. I have others, 8 total floating around the shop, but the two Bosch’s see 70-80% of the work in my shop. The other two that get the most work are two small edge routers both equipped with 1/4” collets, a Rigid and a Dewalt.

Bosch…

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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KelvinGrove

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#14 posted 04-29-2013 11:49 PM

Tennessee, why the Bosch over the PC? And can I make my adjustments above the table without a lift using the Bosch?

-- Tim P. Calhoun GA. Don't cry because it's over, smile....because for 7 glorious miles, everyone thought you were the real bus driver!

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surfin2

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#15 posted 04-30-2013 02:12 AM

I have the PC its alright for table mount but for hand held its top heavy & the base is to small U need to make a bigger one for it. The shaft lock on mine broke after acouple weeks.

NiteWalker I’m a big fan of incra’s magnalock insert plates. me 2…
With the plates being magnetic U can remove them real quick for bit removal…
Routers with above the table adjustments aren’t all there crack’d up to be, accurate they are not…
I’ve tried mine once, do them all by hand under the table,

-- Rick

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unbob

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#16 posted 04-30-2013 04:31 AM

This is how I set up my yard sale 892, in the right side table of a saw. I cant see any advantage adjusting or bit change from the top, just easier to pop it out. I can easily reach under to adjust height. I made the plate from 1/2” steel, rock solid.
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