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Shop-made Tool Swap

by Brandon
posted 04-05-2013 08:17 PM


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waho6o9

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#51 posted 04-06-2013 04:15 AM

I’m in for the next swap and just voted.

These are awesome ideas and a great chance to build up a hand tools only
configuration from fellow LJers.

Thanks for taking the lead on this Brandon!

+1 for Mos, making a try square to use your new marking gauges makes
sense.

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Mauricio

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#52 posted 04-06-2013 04:23 AM

Brandon, if the poll is still a tie at the end maybe we can have those who voted for a losing idea to vote for one of the finalist?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Tugboater78

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#53 posted 04-06-2013 05:35 AM

would love to join in one of these swaps but my skills and more signifigantly, time, keeps me from participating

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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Mark Kornell

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#54 posted 04-06-2013 05:56 AM

I voted for a plane, but I’m in for any of the options.

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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evalyn

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#55 posted 04-06-2013 08:39 AM

You people are really amazing and I am learning here a lot of new things. thanks to you all.

-- http://www.houston-airconditioners.net/

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pastahill

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#56 posted 04-06-2013 09:27 AM

I would also be in, if the vote is for not a so big thing. Because shipping oversees can be very expensive. I ´m sitting in Bavaria and a big square can easily be over 50 – 60 € or more to sent. So a plane or a marking gauge is better for me and i think there is more room to play around with these.

-- If anybody find spelling mistakes, can keep them!

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OnlyJustME

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#57 posted 04-06-2013 12:30 PM

If we can get another euro LJ to paricipate you wont have to ship overseas.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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Ripthorn

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#58 posted 04-06-2013 12:45 PM

I voted square because I just might get off my lazy rear end and build a replica of a Bridge City TS2. That is, if I can get together my funds for the brass and if I can get myself motivated right :) I don’t care what anyone says, them things is NICE!

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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waho6o9

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#59 posted 04-06-2013 12:54 PM

Maybe Andy can participate and help defray the shipping costs to Pasta.

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LakeLover

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#60 posted 04-06-2013 01:07 PM

I would be interested. Can I get a Canuck to swap with? Avoid that border hassle.

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Marcus

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#61 posted 04-06-2013 01:15 PM

I’m not sure I would use a shop made square from someone I didn’t know. Something like that I would prefer to have a nice machined piece that I wouldn’t be as concerned with the accuracy of.

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Mauricio

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#62 posted 04-06-2013 01:27 PM

Marcus, listen to be now and believe me later, your gonna want one of these tools.

I blieve Pasta has a freind on a US military base we could ship to in a flat rate box. same as domestic.

We included Canadians on the last swap and it didnt seem to be an issue but I’ll let Brandon make the call.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Brandon

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#63 posted 04-06-2013 01:43 PM

I may have found another Canadian to join the swap:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/146566-Build-to-Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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GMatheson

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#64 posted 04-06-2013 01:47 PM

As a Canadian that was in both previous swaps I had no problems shipping my items and it was actually cheaper to send to California than to New Brunswick. Personally I think it’s fine for us Canadians to be thrown into the general population as long as the swap items are not overly huge.

-- Greg in Ontario, Canada

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Mauricio

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#65 posted 04-06-2013 02:32 PM

Brandon LOL, I just checked out that thread. If that shack doesnt fall down on its own from the first storm it will rot in a year. Untreated Pine sitting directly on the ground… What a gift he’s made for the termites.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Mauricio

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#66 posted 04-06-2013 02:50 PM

Shipping from the US to Gmat in Canada was cheap also.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#67 posted 04-06-2013 03:11 PM

I would love to try a plane of some kind. Regardless, I’d be in on it. :)

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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LakeLover

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#68 posted 04-06-2013 03:16 PM

Ok Count me in.

Last time I used UPS, I got bent over the barrel and no vaseline.

Brandon I checked that thread yesterday, I don’t thing a square would help. Maybe a match ??? Some of the comments were priceless.

How many sheets of OSB can you fit in your SUV !!!!!

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OnlyJustME

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#69 posted 04-06-2013 05:12 PM

Thanks for making me waste a whole morning on that thread Brandon. Quite chock full of laughs though.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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Brandon

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#70 posted 04-07-2013 05:44 AM

The poll as of 1am EST on 4/7/13:

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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fatandy2003

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#71 posted 04-07-2013 07:52 AM

I just voted and I am in (I would prefer a plane, but the others would definitely challenge my limited ability).

I do live in Europe, but have never shipped using any of the post offices here in Italy (most of them are crooked and it is a very good possibility the box could arrive EMPTY). I have access to USPS on the Navy base, so I would probably use a Priority Flat Rate box…

-- -- Andy, “Those who expect to reap the blessings of liberty must undergo the fatigues of supporting it” - Thomas Paine

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#72 posted 04-07-2013 02:49 PM

I’m in. I voted for Marking/Mortising gauge. Mainly because I need one and had already planned to build one however; I could try whichever is decided on.

-- Eric - "I'm getting proficient with these hand jobbers. - BigRedKnothead"

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#73 posted 04-07-2013 05:02 PM

Andy, we could also see if there are enough Europe-based members to have a micro-swap.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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Mark Kornell

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#74 posted 04-08-2013 12:03 AM

LakeLover, the problem is UPS. Way easier to ship crossborder with Canada Post or Purolator.

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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#75 posted 04-08-2013 01:38 AM

Well, I voted and depending on the project, would like to participate. We’ll see what the final result is.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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#76 posted 04-08-2013 02:41 AM

Voted, and hope to participate this go-round…

I’m practicing just in case I have to send someone a marking gauge…May need another year or two of practice though…

Rough shape cut:

Need a spokeshave to refine that curve on top though, as I hate sandpaper…

-- Jason K

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#77 posted 04-08-2013 02:47 AM

rasps/files?

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#78 posted 04-08-2013 02:53 AM

I’ve never had good luck with rasps – always tore the hell out of what I was shaping…and files worked great, but slow as molasses in January

-- Jason K

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#79 posted 04-08-2013 03:00 AM

It’s an outside curve, could you use a smaller plane? #3 or block maybe?

I understand about the rasps, done it a time or two myself lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#80 posted 04-08-2013 03:07 AM

Looks like a fun build Jason. I like rasps, I don think they are slow but there are few things as fun as using a spokeshave. You need one!

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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waho6o9

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#81 posted 04-08-2013 03:46 AM

Shinto rasps are awesome, one side is for roughing out your shape
and the other side is fine to smooth out the rough work.

Works well and worth the money.

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Mosquito

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#82 posted 04-08-2013 03:56 AM

By all means Jason, if what you need is for us to say “you need a spoke shave” then most definitely, you need a spoke shave :-)

I’ve only got one, but I don’t know what I would have done with out it when I needed it…

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#83 posted 04-08-2013 01:51 PM

Auriou makes some sweet hand cut rasps, that’s all I use to shape totes and rounded stuff now. Well, I usually break out the sandpaper for a nice finish. But, they don’t tear up the workpiece like machine cut rasps.

+1 to spokeshaves, though…very handy shaping tool, and no sawdust to breathe. :) A sharp cabinet scraper is also quite handy on small stuff IMO.

Jason, the marking gauge looks great, BTW, I rekon I need to start practicing as well…

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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waho6o9

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#84 posted 04-08-2013 01:56 PM

A new to me Auriou works quite well and it smooths out the rough cutting very nicely.

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#85 posted 04-08-2013 02:05 PM

+2 Auriou

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#86 posted 04-08-2013 02:26 PM

Mos – I probably could use a block plane to smooth that out somewhat, I hadn’t really thought of that. I probably should have not laid out the curve so close to the top edge of the block and I would have been able to complete the cut with the coping saw. Hmm…

It sounds like you guys have forced me into the spokeshave market – thanks for that! I did need someone to say “you need a spokeshave”.

I also need a rasp that isn’t junk. The one I have is a cheap True Value one, and it really tears the heck out of whatever I’m rasping. And as far as filing goes, I probably shouldn’t be using a steel mill bastard file. Looks like Auriou may be in my future along with that spokeshave…

-- Jason K

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#87 posted 04-08-2013 02:37 PM

I’m in a similar boat… I’ve got crappy cheap rasps. Best one I’ve got is one of those combination wrasp/coarse file, rounded on one side flat on the other jobs from Stanley…

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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OnlyJustME

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#88 posted 04-08-2013 05:29 PM

I think everyone starts out with that one Mosquito.

Jason i would suggest a #151 or clone of it. really easy to set/adjust and keeps it. so far the only one i have but i havent wanted for another yet. well maybe one of those concave shaped ones.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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Mauricio

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#89 posted 04-08-2013 05:36 PM

I got to try an Auriou at the LN hand tool event. They are phenomenal, night and day difference from what I use from HD. But it it worth ~$100? I mean, its for rough shaping…

I have a Kuntz. They work alright. There is an article on FWW about tuning them up and getting them working really well but I haven’t applied any of the tips yet.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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CL810

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#90 posted 04-08-2013 06:23 PM

I’ve been thinking about these rasps from Liogier . They are about two-thirds the price of an Auriou. Popular Woodworking’s Robert Lang gave them a positive review . In PW’s articles they say the shipping is reasonable. I think it said $15 for two rasps.

Here’s a you tube review . This is a part of the Canadian Woodnet “pass around” review.

Lee Valley has the higher end Liogier Sapphire rasps which, I believe, are comparable in price to the Auriou.

Has anyone tried these?

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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#91 posted 04-08-2013 06:31 PM

I also tried the floats that Lie-Nielsen sells. They were pretty nice as well, but also somewhat expensive, and not as versatile as rasps

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#92 posted 04-08-2013 06:55 PM

A good cabinetmakers rasp will find it’s way into a lot of your work. Auriou & Liogier being the two best makers out there that I know of.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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CL810

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#93 posted 04-08-2013 07:03 PM

RG - Do you know anything about the difference between Liogier’s sapphire and traditional models?

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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#94 posted 04-09-2013 12:27 AM

I would have to vote…yes…Auriou rasps are worth $100 plus IF you shape a lot of rounded thingys. I mean, if you can stand the sawdust, a stationary belt sander would do more work. But, for hand tool geeks, the feeling of that fine rasp removing wood fibers only where asked to do so is sweet. Makes the work fun, ya know? :)

They also make smaller hand cut rasps that get into areas very small, yet leave a decent finish. Different than a scraping tool…not better…just different.

Gramercy rasps are also very nice.

OK, I admit it, I have a rasp problem! Not enough of them! :) Seriuosly, I could’ve bought a router and table for what I have invested in rasps. But, for some reason, I find them very pleasing to use…

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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Greg In Maryland

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#95 posted 04-09-2013 12:33 AM

I voted for the hand plane.

Greg

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Mauricio

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#96 posted 04-09-2013 12:33 AM

I hear you Terry, I’ve tried it, that rasp is magical, and sanding sucks! But its ultimately disposable, thats what gets me. I wonder how long it lasts.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Don W

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#97 posted 04-09-2013 12:35 AM

save up some bandsaw blades, cut them into 14” sections, and tape the ends together for a home made raps. Work pretty well.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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ShaneA

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#98 posted 04-09-2013 12:38 AM

Spring 2015 swap….bandsaw blade rasps, just saying.

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#99 posted 04-09-2013 01:29 AM

I have a couple of Nickolson rasps, had them a long time. The ones I have are USA made, now there made somewhere else. As to how long they could last, ones been in service for over twenty years, shaping hardwoods mostly. But you got to treat them nice and not let them bang around with other tools.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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#100 posted 04-09-2013 01:31 AM

Im in what are we doing?

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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