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Shop-made Tool Swap

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posted 04-05-2013 08:17 PM


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#1 posted 04-05-2013 08:23 PM

I’m in.
Thanks for taking the lead.

-- Sawdust and shavings are therapeutic

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#2 posted 04-05-2013 08:28 PM

Count me in. Wooden planes would definitely be easier, I’ve just had a one track mind lately :). Thanks for taking lead on this one. I can do one of the following ones.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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#3 posted 04-05-2013 08:37 PM

I hope to be in, but it may depend on what ends up being decided upon, and how busy things are around then.

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#4 posted 04-05-2013 08:39 PM

So, what are your preferences for the type of tool, Chris (and everyone else)?

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#5 posted 04-05-2013 08:44 PM

Marking gauges would be good as it can be made by all levels of experience
It also can be done from the scrap bucket and light to post.
Great ideas, all of them though.
Jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#6 posted 04-05-2013 08:44 PM

I’d probably shy away from making the scraper plane and/or wood body plane, depending on how many other things are going at the time.

So I guess that would make my vote for square/bevel, or marking gauges

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#7 posted 04-05-2013 09:03 PM

Why not any of the above items? That way no one would know exactly what they are getting.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#8 posted 04-05-2013 09:07 PM

Does the square have to be square, or the plane functional? : ) I will have to admit, I had never made a mallet before the mallet swap, and I had never made an awl or marking knife before that swap either. They both seemed intimidating, but were not too bad. These sound tougher, but I guess if I study up, I can make another substandard item. I think I have been the recipient both times of items that were better than what I gave. I am dragging the curve down…

I would also like to emphasize the importance of actually sending an item if one signs up…I feel bad for those that have been jilted, and that will always be tough to patrol.

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#9 posted 04-05-2013 09:18 PM

Dallas, what has worked well in the past is to give a theme for each of the tool swaps, because it makes it a lot of fun to compare the diverse approaches to a single tool. Plus, if we base the swap on a tool genre each time, then the people that are in need of that tool or interested in signing up can participate, whereas in a random swap a person might get something they have no interest in or might not be as commensurate with the tool they built for someone else.

Shane, a wooden plane, especially in the Krenov style, is much easier than it sounds. I would put it on par with a decent mallet in terms of construction difficulty. I’m actually a little more intimidated by the square tool myself.

It does suck when someone doesn’t follow through, but in the past the response from the other participants has, I think, more than made up for that. We have a great bunch of people here. Of course, if someone hasn’t followed through with their promise to send a tool, then anathema to them!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#10 posted 04-05-2013 09:22 PM

I’m in on this one also. I was thinking that I would make a square or bevel guage. I have been asked to do a blog on the marking guage that I made for the last swap so I think that would have to wait until after this swap. Thanks Brandon for taking the lead!

-- Paul, Las Vegas

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#11 posted 04-05-2013 09:22 PM

I’ll throw my hat in on this too. I will try my best to make what ever it is the best I can and hope the recipient isn’t to disappointed.

-- My theroy in wood working will be. If I'm not enjoying doing it i won't do it.

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#12 posted 04-05-2013 09:32 PM

I think the people that didn’t send a tool in the previous swap should be ineligible for future swaps, first of all. And maybe we should do some sort of check-in 2 weeks from the finish line to make sure everyone is on track.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#13 posted 04-05-2013 09:33 PM

Gatorjim – you can’t disappoint anyone as long as your project makes it to the recipient.

-- Paul, Las Vegas

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#14 posted 04-05-2013 09:35 PM

I will be happy to participate again. A plane will be a new thing for me but I’ve been wanting to make some anyway, this will be a good excuse; but summer can be a busy time and a simpler tool might be better.

There are one or two folks that joined previous swaps and didn’t send anything, I would make note of those people and exclude them. Seems wrong for them to keep reaping the benefits without actually participating. Probably should mention signing up on Elfster unless you don’t want to use it again but it seemed to make the last swap much easier.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

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#15 posted 04-05-2013 09:35 PM

I’ve seen on other boards where you need to send a picture of the completed project before you’re considered in.

Edit: email the moderator, not shown publicly.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#16 posted 04-05-2013 09:41 PM

How does that work Don? The draw happens after everyone is finished with the projects leaving just enough time to ship? Sounds like a good idea. No one would be left out (unless they forgot how to use UPS!).

-- Paul, Las Vegas

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#17 posted 04-05-2013 09:44 PM

Yes, I think we’ll be doing the Elfster thing again since it seemed to work out well. Right, Mauricio? I also agree on the bad apples not participating in the upcoming swaps.

Ian, I like your idea of some sort of check-in about two weeks prior to the end-date, because that gives us enough time to make some changes if someone needs to drop out.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#18 posted 04-05-2013 09:46 PM

The draw happens after everyone is finished with the projects leaving just enough time to ship? Sounds like a good idea. No one would be left out (unless they forgot how to use UPS!).

I’ve never been through one, but it seems like that’s the idea.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#19 posted 04-05-2013 09:54 PM

I guess the only downside would be that you lose the ability to tailor the item to the recipient.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#20 posted 04-05-2013 09:56 PM

I’d be in for a marking gauge. I’ve been in on the last couple of swaps and they have been fun. I liked elfster, although some of it is kind of dorky, it seemed to really help make the process easier to manage. There have been a few no shows and that is disappointing. I think we all realize that life happens and if you are signed up for the swap and something in your life prevents you from participating, drop out, and the rest of the group will adjust and not think the worse of you. The worst thing is to make no effort to communicate take your prize and disappear. I also think that we should start a separate thread for just the swap. The last two swaps were done on hijacked threads and that left some people out and others having to wade through a lot of posts that pertained only to the swap.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#21 posted 04-05-2013 09:57 PM

I agree that the square may be the most difficult to make because it has to be dead on square. Takes a lot of fiddling and attention to detail.

I’d say the scraper plane would the most fun to make.
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-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#22 posted 04-05-2013 09:58 PM

Ian, I think that would only happen in the rare cases that one needs to drop out, but for 95% or so of the time, you’d know your recipient.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#23 posted 04-05-2013 10:14 PM

Maybe making the swap so that its not anonymous will reduce the chances of people faking out.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#24 posted 04-05-2013 10:16 PM

We could also have one or two volunteers to have a backup waiting to go in the even of a no-show. Hopefully they wouldn’t be needed though.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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#25 posted 04-05-2013 10:18 PM

I like the idea of the moderator having a progress check-in or finished photo-sent a couple weeks before the deadline. Though it sort of ruins the surprise for the moderator, though.

Out of curiosity, how many people were no-shows on the last one?

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#26 posted 04-05-2013 10:19 PM

Perhaps a minimum LJ membership period before entering? That would have filtered out one of our no shows.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#27 posted 04-05-2013 10:20 PM

Just two. Lance and Derec.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#28 posted 04-05-2013 10:21 PM

By the way Lance said he would be sending his. But I believe it when I see it and when he says so publicly.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#29 posted 04-05-2013 10:24 PM

I think with Lance, whatever his intention, he hasn’t hit the deadline twice now and that should preclude him. I sympathize that he’s going through a tough spot, but that’s his burden, and nobody elses.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#30 posted 04-05-2013 10:24 PM

Oh and by the way I did a progress checkin with Lance a couple of weeks before the deadline. Didnt help.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#31 posted 04-05-2013 10:26 PM

Some how I missed the first two swaps but I would like to be in on this one. Any of the items listed would be acceptable to me. Also count me in for an extra should it be needed.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#32 posted 04-05-2013 10:42 PM

Okay, Let’s do an official poll for the type of swap. I made one using a third-party website:

http://poll.pollcode.com/or7fa

In one week’s time we’ll choose whichever one has the most votes. In the meantime, I’ll start to put together an Elfster page.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#33 posted 04-05-2013 10:45 PM

Wow a poll! See we picked the right guy!

And yeah, elfster is awesome, makes it very easy.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#34 posted 04-05-2013 10:48 PM

I voted, but would like to add that it really doesn’t matter to me what gets picked. I will cobble together a weak entry, as usual…I like these swaps. : )

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#35 posted 04-05-2013 11:11 PM

I would laugh if we ended on a 4-way tie

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#36 posted 04-05-2013 11:15 PM

Anyway to add a “whatever” to the poll?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#37 posted 04-05-2013 11:17 PM

Shane
Maybe will get matched and we can send each other our valiant attempt of making tools.

-- My theroy in wood working will be. If I'm not enjoying doing it i won't do it.

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#38 posted 04-05-2013 11:24 PM

yeah, I feel like a multi select would have worked too. You’d still get the same ultimate results, but a more completed representation.

Either way, a good idea. Thanks Brandon

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#39 posted 04-06-2013 12:06 AM

Count me in…I voted for a square, but a bevel sounds pretty tough, too. I need both tools, and to be challenged!

Can I rig elfster so that I get Shane’s project? I think your marking knife was great, bud! :)

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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#40 posted 04-06-2013 12:27 AM

You can count me in on this swap too. All the choices are good and whatever doesn’t get picked for this swap will probably have a pretty good chance of being the theme of the next swap. So that being the case – I vote for any of the above.

-- Greg in Ontario, Canada

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#41 posted 04-06-2013 12:30 AM

That was another reason we decided to be more specific for the last swap (in adding to the response to whomever asked about making the swap more generic). We figured if we were going to try to do a swap every 3 months, we’d have to make it more focused so we wouldn’t run out of things to make lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#42 posted 04-06-2013 01:07 AM

Terry, if you would have volunteered to organize the swap you could have rigged it… Next time man. :-)

Look at Shane up there lowering expectations. Like his marking knives wernt amazing. Cut the act Shane, we know your sandbagging. ;-)

Mos, yes good point, we need to spread it out.

The thing I love about these swaps is they are making me do projects I want to do but might never get around to doing without the extra push.

I want to make all the things that are on the list. Its hard to decide so I’m going to have to just go with what I feel like making right now and that is some type of plane… I think…

They really are easy to make.
-Square up a chunk of wood (Jointer, planer or hand plane)
-Slice the cheeks off (band saw, table saw, or handsaw)
-Cut the front ramp and blade bed (chop saw or handsaw)
-Chop our or route the space for the cap iron nut (chisel, gouge, or router)
-Make blade bed perfectly square (block plane or sandpaper)
-Make a wedge (Band saw or handsaw)
-Glue it all back together with some dowels for alignment
-Drill for your pin, easy if you use a 3/8” brass or steel rod (drill press)
-Shape to your liking.

The main details to pay close attention to are the squareness of the bed and the mouth opening when you glue it up. Other than that its pretty straight forward.

I have a link to bootleg copy of the David Fink book if anyone needs it.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#43 posted 04-06-2013 01:11 AM

Voted, couldn’t do the last swap due to moving. I might be able to get in on this one depending on the project but do have a house to start on shortly that might get in the way. Hope I don’t have to wait till Christmas for the next one I can participate in.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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#44 posted 04-06-2013 02:05 AM

Square don’t leave much for variety. But Marking Gauges sure do. I might be up for that.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#45 posted 04-06-2013 02:09 AM

I’m definitely in on this one too. I think any of them but the square would be good. lol

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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#46 posted 04-06-2013 02:10 AM

+1 to several comments that it should be a specific project.

We should state up front that anyone who does not deliver will be posted in a new separate thread titled “Thread of Shame.” ;-)

Oh yeah, Aye for Brandon.

-- "It's amazing how much can go wrong when you think you know what you're doing."

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#47 posted 04-06-2013 02:17 AM

Looks like the square/bevel gauge are tied with the mortise/marking gauge in the poll so far. We may need to flip a coin when it’s all said and done.

Ryan, it’s a square OR a bevel gauge, so there’s variety right there. :-) Plus there are different types of squares and if people settle on that one I’d make a layout square like the one Schwarz uses for his logo. I’m really sounding like a Schwarz evangelist lately—- someone splash me with water in the face or something.

EDIT: something like this:

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#48 posted 04-06-2013 02:32 AM

I agree Mauricio. I like the swaps because I’m more motivated to make something for someone else in the swap than I am to make it for myself. I wanted to make a mallet for quite a while, but never did. Then the swap came up, so I opted in, and made one for someone else. I didn’t think I’d ever make a marking knife, and though the one I made probably isn’t that great, I made my first one none the less. It keeps pushing me to try new things, and that’s why I love it.

LJ rocks. Just sayin’.

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#49 posted 04-06-2013 02:33 AM

I like the square/bevel in that it gives us something to use our marking knives with lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#50 posted 04-06-2013 02:39 AM

If it’s a marking or a bevel/square build I’ll probably be in. I’ve got a great design I’ve been wanting to do,.as Mauricio said just the push I need.
I don’t know if I can keep up with the volume of posts on the three threads I watch here on LJ. Holy mackerel there have been a lot of posts the last couple of days.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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