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Ridgid planer or 735 before large cabinet planer?

by jonwright
posted 03-24-2013 12:56 AM


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cutworm

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#1 posted 03-24-2013 02:09 AM

I like my Ridgid. 350 seems steep for a reconditioned one though. I’d shop around. It’s only 400 new at Home Depot. If you are near a Tanger Outlet Mall check with Direct Tools. They carry Ridgid. I have the 4331 and couldn’t ask for better.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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jonwright

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#2 posted 03-24-2013 12:48 PM

Yeah, that’s with shipping and all. Tax here is 10% so I figure its a $100 premium for lifetime warranty and local pickup. Other nice thing is quick local return I I’m unhappy, but the recon would cost me $$$$ to return.

Otherwise I’d just click it n ship it.

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Shawn Masterson

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#3 posted 03-24-2013 01:32 PM

just go with the stationary. a 15” doesn’t take much space, you will be happier, and it will save money in the long run. I have a pm66 with run off, a 20” planer, 6”jointer, 14” BS, stand up DP, 6×48 sander, and many others. My shop is 26×30 and with all my machines I only have to move the planer and jointer to park my truck in there. I recommend getting the biggest you can afford. you will be happier

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jonwright

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#4 posted 03-24-2013 02:15 PM

Yah, I know long term.

The price difference, right now, funds a band saw.

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Jerry

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#5 posted 03-24-2013 02:34 PM

CL has been good to us. A week ago I seen a 12” wood master with 5 HP motor for 400.00. I know 12” is a little small. Today there is a delta 12” in very clean and well cared for condition, asking price is 200.00.

I would not get to caught up in who mfg is. These are fairly simple machines and I don’t think there is a huge drop off from to another.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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David Dean

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#6 posted 03-24-2013 02:58 PM

What is up with these hobbie planer’s the motor’s are the same size as the one’s in a miter saw so if you have the money I would look into a good floor planer you well thank your self down the road.

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jshattoc

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#7 posted 03-24-2013 03:06 PM

I have the Ridgid 4331, and I’m fairly pleased with it. I got it new for 400 minus 20% from the HF coupon match, so 320 total with a lifetime warranty. I have had to replace the blades once so far, about $30 for a set, but they index into the cutterhead making it very easy to do. They even give you the T handle hex key you need to do it. You can use a normal allen wrench, but the included tool is pretty useful.

It cuts pretty well as long as I don’t push it depthwise. Snipe is there, but less of a factor if you align the tables so the outboard ends are slightly above dead-level with the planing table. I had an issue where boards would get stuck part way through, turns out the feed rollers were all gummed up with pine pitch. Just something to watch out for. The chip fan is nice since I only recently got a DC. I just ran a shop vac hose from the planer into a garbage can, and that took care of most of the chips. Cutterhead lock is good, and the preset depth stops were pretty spot on right out of the box. They are adjustable, but I haven’t had to move them.

It is LOUD! It’s louder than my router by quite a bit. Earplugs are an absolute must with this guy. I know that’s a “feature” of most lunchbox planers, but I was really surprised how loud this one was.

I’m not sure what the extra 200 (or more) for the 735 gets you that the Ridgid doesn’t have. The 735 was above my budget, so I didn’t look at it too closely, but I don’t find anything lacking in the Ridgid that any other lunchbox model would make better.

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rrww

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#8 posted 03-24-2013 08:56 PM

I have the ridgid it had a bearing faliure at only 3 months of light use. The LSA covered everything except a week of downtime. Other than that I do like the machine and its been playing nice. I think its a good deal for the money.

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needshave

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#9 posted 03-24-2013 09:10 PM

I have two stationary cabinet shop type planers and a ridgid planer. My Ridgid planer is about three years old, and has performed remarkably. They are used as you would assume with the cabinet shop planers doing all the work in the shop and the ridgid taking a lot of road trips and does a lot of final fit, make to order parts. It does get abused. I also have the dewalt. I personally prefer the Rigid due to the excellent finish it has provided.

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Shawn Masterson

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#10 posted 03-24-2013 09:43 PM

I am also a huge fan of CL. That’s where I got my 20” jet knockoff for $675. Lets see a 13” lunch box for $300-$600 or a stationary 20” for $675 , seems like a no brainer to me. I know it was a steel, but I see 15” knock offs on CL in the $400+ range also. putting together a shop is an evolution it takes time, unless you have a pile of money to burn.

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jonwright

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#11 posted 03-25-2013 01:43 AM

Burning the cash on other stuff and there have been no $600 cab planer deals around here. Explaining to someone that 15” Powermatic they $1,200 for is the price of a new Grizzly shipped just doesn’t go well

There has been a Jet 6” jointer listed for a few weeks at $700. And that was when you get the new ones shipped for not much more than that when they had their sale going on.

I would do a used cab planer but by the time I figure my time and effort with where I’d have to go (fuel) and I’m back at new prices again. And the ones I find either bottom line are as much as new or new refurb which I’m not interested I doing.

Besides I’m not asking if lunchbox is instead of. I know the cabs are better and quieter. Just don’t have the scratch (spent that on the TS) nor the room.

But if all I’m gonna be is PO’d I won’t bother. But sounds like you can get reasonable results with it.

If it lasts 5 years and then burns up it’ll be worth it to me. Not counting the warranty.

My decision really is either a cab planer or get a lunchbox and a Griz 513 bandsaw. If i went ahead with cab planer then have to hold out on a bandsaw for a year or so. And getting a lunchbox now would allow me an 8” jointer vs the base 6”.

I’m using the planer way more than I thought I would and its kinda a pain to use my neighbors. Don’t want to wear out my welcome so to speak. But that’s a whole other story.

He was receptive to the notion of sharing the planer and I’d have the bandsaw for his use. His use would be infrequent and I’m pretty steady on the planer it seems.

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 03-25-2013 02:10 AM

My Ridgid planer has been used and abused badly for the last 4 1/2 years and has performed flawlessly! If it dies tomorrow, I’ll try to find another just like it to buy. I have those disposable blades resharpened and wish all you guys that throw em away would send em to me! My resharpened ones cut as well or better than new and last longer!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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jonwright

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#13 posted 03-26-2013 01:17 AM

Well I waltzed I with a HF 20% coupon and they took it plus a bit more discount. $78 off retail of $399 so I walked out with tax of just shy of $350.

For that it should be worth the $$.

And since its new and bought locally I can easily return it. I’ll take it out of the box tomorrow.

Thanks for all of your opinions. I think I came out better than what I was looking to do with your collective help.

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Redoak49

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#14 posted 03-26-2013 01:38 AM

I have the 735 and a Jet 15”(just like all the other 15”). The 15” is nice to take off a lot of wood and get it done quickly. I use the 735 to take off small amounts and to be able to get down to precise thickness with a good surface finish.

The 735 has proven to be a good machine with many people. I think that I have gone through 4 sets of edges on knives on it and it is still going strong. It also has a dust extractor blower which works well and you can just run a 4” pipe into a garbage can. The biggest negative is that it is LOUD. It is the loudest tool I own.

In my opinion, unless you are going to plane down rough cut wood, the 735 may be the only planer you might need for a long time.

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DKV

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#15 posted 03-26-2013 04:39 AM

Jon, are you a hobbyist woodworker or do you do production work?

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know that.

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Loren

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#16 posted 03-26-2013 05:23 AM

A used Woodmaster, RBI or Belsaw can be a great buy. They
are tough and they can do tough work. They are also much
less annoying to listen to than portable planers and typically
overpowered.

A portable planer always makes compromises in order to
be portable: they are less powerful and built to
compromise on rigidity to lose weight. They do
deliver nice surfaces though, and that’s because of
high cutterhead speeds. Blades vary in durability
and some aren’t resharpenable.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Tennessee

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#17 posted 03-26-2013 11:51 AM

Until I bought my Grizzly spiralhead last year, I used my Rigid 12” for ten years on just four set of blades. I have the old two-bladed model with the lock on the side. Bought it in 2001. I probably have 20 resharpenings on two-three sets of blades, and one set is still in the original package. Tons of oak and other hardwoods went through my unit, and I still keep it around since it planes boards down to 2MM, where my Grizzly will only go down to 3MM.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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Jim Finn

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#18 posted 03-26-2013 02:26 PM

I have the DeWalt 735 to plane rough lumber, mostly cedar. It serves me well. I have had it two years now. I have a friend that likes his Ridgid but I have never had one.

-- In God We Trust

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jonwright

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#19 posted 03-26-2013 06:14 PM

Again. I’m not asking if a cab planer is better or not. I’m just looki g for a temp solution for a while. I’ll unpackaged my little Ridgid and see how it goes.

I’m not a full production shop concerned with making money. But I am a very perfectionistic hobbyist.

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Marcus

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#20 posted 03-26-2013 06:30 PM

Jon -

If your end goal is to eventually go w/ a full size planer down the road, save the money now and just get the ridgid. Both the Ridgid and Dewalt are great planers, but you’ll be unhappy with either knowing that you have a bigger/better purchase down the road. If you can get it new in store w/ the 20% off as others have mentioned, its really a no brainer then for me.

On a related note, I have a 735 and really enjoy it, but still see myself getting a larger planer at some point. Its the only tool I’ve bought were i’ve had regret…not because of it’s performance, just wishing for something bigger.

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woodworker59

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#21 posted 03-26-2013 06:41 PM

I just wanted to put in my two cents, I have the lesser Dewalt, the 734 model, and am very pleased with it.. I replaced an older Delta lunch box model with the Dewalt and it planes boards like glass.. the only thing of note is that when planning full width boards of Oak or Maple, you need to make a minimum cut and many passes, but what should you expect when using machine to it full potential.. blade changes are easy… no real complaints.. I will up grade next time to a larger capacity machine, but shop space would not allow it at this time.. over all very pleased.. just wanted to make my case for the Dewalt..really don’t see much difference between the Rigid and the Dewalt of similar size.. the ability to change the feed rate on the 735 is probably the best function on it.. allows you to remove material to size, then change speed for final finish pass.. cool function.. just me talking… good luck with what ever you choose.. don’t think you can go wrong with either.. Papa

-- Papa@papaswoodworking.com

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