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What is this plane?

by CharlieM1958
posted 02-21-2013 02:07 PM


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ShaneA

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#1 posted 02-21-2013 02:11 PM

Confusing, I think we may be looking at two different planes.

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#2 posted 02-21-2013 02:12 PM

You are looking at two very different planes, and the ”#10” is a Frankenplane, too boot. Lever cap is off of a “Four Square plane, or a trans plane.

I would try for BOTH planes, as the second one looks a bit like a #2!

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#3 posted 02-21-2013 02:12 PM

Wow! That is interesting. The lever cap looks to be a Four Square cap. Other than that, I got nothing.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#4 posted 02-21-2013 02:14 PM

The handle on te side view is the furthest protruding part, But, on the top view that is not the case.

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#5 posted 02-21-2013 02:16 PM

Looks like a Stanley No 10 to me.

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#6 posted 02-21-2013 02:16 PM

Whatever it is, he should put a pillow case on that thing or stop dipping in his sleep. Ewww.

Looks like two different planes to me. The #10 should have open sides.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#7 posted 02-21-2013 02:18 PM

I agree, definitely two different planes, look at the difference in shine of the finish on the front knobs.

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RussellAP

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#8 posted 02-21-2013 02:18 PM

You aren’t seeing the handle on the top pic, it’s the blade iron you are looking at.

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PurpLev

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#9 posted 02-21-2013 02:20 PM

2 diff planes based on the broken body (front right side) on the side photo, but does not show on the top photo.

I would contact the seller, sometimes sellers just throw some pictures that they have on their camera not knowing when it was taken or to which plane it relates to as long as it looks a bit similar (not everyone selling woodworking stuff are woodworkers)

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ShaneA

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#10 posted 02-21-2013 02:21 PM

The shadow one the first pic indicates an open side. The second plane may be a 3 or 4, but not a 10. Stef is correct on the pillow case however.

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#11 posted 02-21-2013 02:23 PM

No lateral adjuster on the 10 either

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Porchfish

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#12 posted 02-21-2013 02:25 PM

I agree with ShaneA , alternate planes ? , but I disagree on the pillow case, it is lovely and maybe even of the same vintage as #1.

-- If it smells good, eat it ! The pig caught under the fence is the one doing all thesquealing

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#13 posted 02-21-2013 02:28 PM

I sent the seller a question. We’ll see if he responds.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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RussellAP

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#14 posted 02-21-2013 02:31 PM

I say they are the same plane. Although what Shane says about the light is compelling, the handle could have reflected the light to produce the open side look. Remember that simply because a plane has a base that says Stanley No 10, doesn’t mean it’s not been taken apart and had other parts from other planes installed. I do that myself with irons and caps.

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404 - Not Found

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#15 posted 02-21-2013 02:31 PM

He could have just uploaded the wrong pic, after all, to many people a plane is just a plane.

Look what my search for a Stanley No.1 turned up…

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Tim

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#16 posted 02-21-2013 02:39 PM

Yeah I bet it wasn’t intentional to mislead anyone or anything. Just not being careful with the pictures.

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CharlieM1958

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#17 posted 02-21-2013 02:49 PM

So renners, how much did you end up having to pay for your #1? And who wears them… you or Mrs. renners?

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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404 - Not Found

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#18 posted 02-21-2013 02:53 PM

£2.99 Buy it now, and I’m not telling…

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CharlieM1958

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#19 posted 02-21-2013 02:54 PM

Russell, I believe the shadows in the first photo are a dead giveaway that these are two different planes. You can clearly see the outline of the cutout on the background, exactly as one would expect on a #10. I enlarged the second photo to make sure I wasn’t missing something, and there are definitely no cutouts. And as Lukie pointed out, very different sheen level on the front knobs.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#20 posted 02-21-2013 05:49 PM

my thought was not even about the plane(s) itself. The background is different in each pic. I know when I take a pic of a tool or the like, I don’t swap out backgrounds. Rather I just set up my spot for pics and click away.

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Don W

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#21 posted 02-21-2013 05:55 PM

buy it Charlie, then tell the seller to make sure you bet both planes.

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#22 posted 02-21-2013 06:02 PM

Not to mention the first picture doesn’t have the same backdrop as the second one either.

Russel, I also have to disagree that the pictures are the same plane, unless it’s not a Stanley base. The second picture is quite clearly not a Stanley #10, no matter what frog, blade, chipbreaker, lever cap, tote, or knob is on it. Unless the guy found the first ever Stanley #10 closed sided rabbet plane…

Edit: Oops, got interrupted while typing this response, I see Chris already mentioned the backgrounds

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CharlieM1958

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#23 posted 02-21-2013 06:38 PM

Now it gets really interesting: I sent a question to the seller, and he replied that both photos are of the plane that is for sale!

I’m almost willing to spend the money just to satisfy my curiosity.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#24 posted 02-21-2013 06:39 PM

Do it!!!

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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RussellAP

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#25 posted 02-21-2013 06:40 PM

He wont take any additional photo’s for you?

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ShaneA

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#26 posted 02-21-2013 06:44 PM

I think he is confused. Bid, hopefully win for a low price. Then send him message making sure he gets the #10 in the box to you. I would like one of those, for no other reason, than I don’t have one…yet.

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#27 posted 02-21-2013 06:48 PM

LOL, it might be the long lost Stanley.

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#28 posted 02-21-2013 07:09 PM

The missing link!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#29 posted 02-21-2013 07:11 PM

maybe it’s a camo plane? changes it’s appearance and functionality based on the background on top of which it is put on?

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JoeinDE

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#30 posted 02-21-2013 07:19 PM

I have an old #3 Stanley plane that would present the same photo as the first picture. One of the previous owners drilled a small hole in the upright, presumably for hanging the plane. That could be what is giving rise to that spot of light. You should ask him to post a picture of the other side of the plane.

-- A bad craftsmen blames his cheap #$%ing tools

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OnlyJustME

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#31 posted 02-21-2013 07:30 PM

He has added to the listing stating that the top photo is a different plane and to ignore it.

At starting bid of $60 i would have thought he was selling a #10 not a #4.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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jap

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#32 posted 02-21-2013 07:31 PM

Look under the discription now.
“On Feb-21-13 at 11:16:50 PST, seller added the following information:
This plane is a No. 4. Ignore the top view picture that shows a #10 plane. That was accidentally entered for this plane”

What do i win???
(edit) OnlyJustME got beat to it

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CharlieM1958

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#33 posted 02-21-2013 07:36 PM

Oh well, it is settled now. After first responding that both photos were of the same plane, I just checked the listing again and found the following information added by the seller:

This plane is a No. 4. Ignore the top view picture that shows a #10 plane. That was accidentally entered for this plane

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#34 posted 02-21-2013 07:36 PM

A hare to slow jap. lol

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#35 posted 02-21-2013 07:45 PM

And I’m behind both of you!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#36 posted 02-21-2013 09:42 PM

I stand corrected.

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#37 posted 02-21-2013 11:47 PM

Rats, a #10 would have been great at a #4 price…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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