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British Isles

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posted 02-01-2013 10:43 PM


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#1 posted 02-01-2013 11:03 PM

The Vikings taught the Brits everthing they know to this day.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#2 posted 02-01-2013 11:41 PM

If you are really serious DKV, you could get a history book and learn all about the British Isles from reading what some historians wrote.

I love history me, not that I’m a boffin or anything.

As far as my understanding of it goes, pre Roman invasion, the Brits were all Celts (probably a lot of gingers in the populace).

Enter the might of Rome, Celts defeated except Welsh ones and Scottish ones who ran away to Wales, Scotland and Cornwall. One Briton heroine of note was Queen Boudica of the Icini tribe (the same tribe as Agron, from the TV series ‘Spartacus, Blood and Sand’), who defeated many Romans. Hadrian’s Wall which divides England and Scotland was built by a Roman named Hadrian to stop the Scottish Celts plundering England – now a part of the Roman Empire.

Crumble the Roman Empire, the middle ages begins, enter the Saxons to create the age of Anglo Saxons, then came the Vikings.

There was once a gay Viking King who came to conquer part of Northern England.
“Kill the women and rape the men!” he cried as they went to sack and plunder a village,
an aide corrected him, “My Lord, don’t you mean, kill the men and rape the women?”
to which the gay King replied “speak for yourself, duckie”.

This is documented somewhere, it actually happened, or it could have been one of my Dad’s bad jokes, circa 1978.

Then came the Normans, not an army that all had the name of Norman, but from the Normandy region of France. William the Conqueror owns King Harold who got an arrow in his eye as depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry.

After that there were centuries of feudalism, crop rotation and the industrial revolution. In answer to your question about when did English become the spoken language, I don’t know. Definitely before last Tuesday.
But I do know that Cornwall has it’s own (dying unfortunately) Celtic language, Welsh is it’s own language (it even has it’s own dedicated tv station) Scotland again, own dialect, and Ireland has it’s own language – Irish, begorrah! It is important to point out that Northern Ireland (six counties of the Island of Ireland) is part of the United Kingdom, whereas the Republic of Ireland is a Republic and has been since 1926.

Regional dialects can be found in all regions of the British Isles. The Scottish accent can be hard to follow, I am not going to say anything about alcoholism, but Scottish people live the most unhealthy lifestyle of anyone in Europe. Welsh people are mostly unemployed since the mines and steel works were closed by Margaret Thatcher in the 1980’s

England now is very much a multi-cultural society, the result of having an ‘empire’ stretching from the West Indies to the Far East.

English youth is disaffected, hence the disgraceful rioting of 2011, Football (Soccer) is our national game but we haven’t won anything of note since 1966. As a nation, we eat a lot of pies.

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#3 posted 02-01-2013 11:58 PM

Thanks renners.

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#4 posted 02-02-2013 12:06 AM

No problemo!

You would not fare well in England, as we all enjoy a ‘nice cup of tea’ and you can’t get kool aid.

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#5 posted 02-02-2013 12:14 AM

DKV: Try reading a book called ” A Man Called Intrepid”. Shows the UK during WWII. Pretty good stuff.

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#6 posted 02-02-2013 12:33 AM

Renners, madts, I would enjoy something comparable to what Michener would write. I would enjoy a book that combines the history of the Isles with a good fiction story to pull it all together. James Michener had a special talent at telling a good story and teaching you history at the same time. Any ideas?

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#7 posted 02-02-2013 12:44 AM

I’ll have it ready for you in a couple of weeks DKV.

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#8 posted 02-02-2013 12:59 AM

Can that be Science Fiction?

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#9 posted 02-02-2013 01:15 AM

Dr. Who? Love it…

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#10 posted 02-02-2013 08:35 AM

Football (Soccer) is our national game but we haven’t won anything of note since 1966. As a nation, we eat a lot of pies.

Always had you down as a Cat renners.

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#11 posted 02-02-2013 09:48 AM

Murch, I have lived in Co. Kilkenny for the last 10 years, but I am as English as a pair of oven gloves with kittens on them.

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#12 posted 02-02-2013 12:24 PM

@renners, very interesting read. Thanks

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#13 posted 02-03-2013 02:06 AM

without the British people, we would all be wearing the following

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#14 posted 02-03-2013 02:17 AM

Anyone read this?

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#15 posted 02-03-2013 02:18 AM

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#16 posted 02-03-2013 02:21 AM

There is nothing wrong in being British. In fact the humour is better there.

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#17 posted 02-03-2013 02:29 AM

its gonna take forever to teach people the language of peace

or 2 seconds

of after thought where the dialect makes the conversation mute : )

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#18 posted 02-03-2013 02:34 AM

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#19 posted 02-03-2013 02:41 AM

And renners, there was a Viking that was very light in his loafers.

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#20 posted 02-03-2013 03:07 AM

Fact of the matter is

English with every dialect of it, no matter where spoken, will eventually die as any stats I read would tend to prove it to be true ? Men fight wars and population demographics, language demographics tell me, that the generations born after me, will choke the “English to Death”, its a genetic “inevitability” to which I will long be dead by (NOT my problem : )

Gotta love the English as I do believe its the language of love, be it by my Viking cousins and Scottish brethren, my Newfie friends and Irish drinkn buds, my American family, Aussie and Kiwii friends, rich with all things loved, my roots run deep enough to dig up dirt in any country where language breaks barriers of conflict where custom dictates you to be kind……maybe ?

or are the english just doomed to be a bunch of a$$holes like all my best friends ?

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#21 posted 02-03-2013 03:33 AM

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#22 posted 02-03-2013 03:34 AM

over and out

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#23 posted 02-03-2013 04:29 AM

language, its all in the mind so thank your many memories

pick your poisons wisely

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#24 posted 02-03-2013 04:40 AM

Not much in between, is there Moron.

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#25 posted 02-03-2013 04:43 AM

nope

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#26 posted 02-03-2013 04:45 AM

how about you ?

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#27 posted 02-03-2013 05:09 AM

seriously ?

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#28 posted 02-03-2013 05:11 AM

Why a dead cat?

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#29 posted 02-03-2013 05:12 AM

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#30 posted 02-03-2013 05:14 AM

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#31 posted 02-03-2013 05:19 AM

no guns

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#32 posted 02-03-2013 05:32 AM

be glad we can read, most of the world cant, even on this side, its subjective ?

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#33 posted 02-03-2013 05:42 AM

common language every soul knows

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#34 posted 02-03-2013 05:54 AM

balls to the wall

artist unknown

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#35 posted 02-03-2013 05:55 AM

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#36 posted 02-03-2013 06:02 AM

languages become redundant when skill levels surpass them

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#37 posted 02-03-2013 06:09 AM

sometimes artists unknown never leave a number and the language is known to few

: ))

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#38 posted 02-03-2013 06:32 AM

Renners, Great historical , albeit skimmed history of the Brits – including some of the tribes. Boudica (Bordacia) was from my part of England and there was also another tribe called the Angles, who at one time must have been dominant and gave the country name of England.
As noted, English, Brits stock is found all over the world, not surprising when you realize that the Brits conquered or ram 25% of the world’s countries/population, a feet that America will never attain. :-)
Brit humour is effeminately and acquired taste, and brilliant too.
I constantly have to remind people here in the US that my “cute accent” is NOT an accent, it’s a dialect and that YOU GUYS have the accent.
They usually stare and don’t understand, so I just say “Why don’t you speak proper, like wot I do?”

Love real history.

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#39 posted 02-03-2013 07:28 AM

history

has a time line

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#40 posted 02-03-2013 07:32 AM

fun factor vs space

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#41 posted 02-03-2013 07:37 AM

the british cow

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#42 posted 02-03-2013 07:53 PM

All, just started reading Sarum. Starts at the time of the landbridge still existing to Europe. Seems like $9 well spent. More later…

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#43 posted 02-03-2013 11:07 PM

There was a line in “Robin Hood: men in thights”

“Unlike other Robin Hoods, I speak with a british accent”

Same scene:

Sherrif of Rottingham: “he killed a Royal Boar!”

Robin of Loxsley: “No, i killed a Royal deer, that ( pointing to the sherrif) is a Royal Bore!”

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#44 posted 02-04-2013 07:50 AM

Irish men built the British empire and then you gave us drink so as we wouldn’t rule it. Fair enough.

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#45 posted 02-05-2013 07:05 PM

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#46 posted 02-05-2013 07:51 PM

The Scots are about to have a vote on whether they remain British and have their affairs dictated non democratically from Westminster London, or not.
We want to run our own affairs completely and not have most of them dictated from London via Westminster English Parliament.We currently have our own Parliament in Edinburgh but have no real powers re our future and we don’t want England to tell us what we have to do in the future.We currently have a prime minister with just one m p in power in Scotland, telling us exactly what we must do and not do.We did not vote for Cameron and the same with Thatcher but had to endure eighteen years of her rule without demaocracy where are we slaves to westminster.Even the people in northern England don’t feel well served by LOndon westminster mp’s who couldn’t care less about north they only are interested in the rich southern counties and London. A bit like Canada being run by America without say or vice versa.Alistair

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#47 posted 02-05-2013 08:36 PM

Just as the Coal Industry was wiped out† by the Tories, I am convinced devolution was encouraged so this day would come. North Sea Oil isn’t going to last forever and once the revenue from that dries up, it’s going to cost a lot to keep Scotland in the UK. A pre-emptive amputation to suit the exchequer.

†There’s 300 years worth of coal still to be dug out of the UK. Closing the UK Coal Industry is keeping it in reserve. Nevermind the human cost.

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#48 posted 02-05-2013 08:53 PM

Those costs have been well discussed and the Scotish nationalists always win their argument that we will be better off financially and. Anyway it isn’t all about us being wealthier just that we want to decide whether to go to war when we don’t want to, or have nuclear missiles in Scottish waters, or deal directly with Europe, without first asking the english government if it is ok and being denied the right ,seems the tories want out of Europe altogether we don’t. We would be made welcome in Europe as a country that doesn’t always bitch and moan like a little schoolboy etc etc etc the way the southern english do constantly undermining europe.The benefits would be many unfolding but not ever that we would be rich or anything like it we need to run Scotland by Scot’smen and women not english tories that we never voted for in the first place. Alistair

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#49 posted 02-05-2013 10:22 PM

Good for them…

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#50 posted 02-05-2013 10:26 PM

How touching…

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