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At what Temperature do you flee from the shop?

by jap
posted 01-22-2013 03:20 PM


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#1 posted 01-22-2013 03:22 PM

I wuss out about 10 degrees f.

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#2 posted 01-22-2013 03:25 PM

For me below -10c or 14f, i will hardly work in the shop

Holy crap! At that temperature I’d flee from home. Arizona is nice this time of the year.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#3 posted 01-22-2013 03:27 PM

Me, when it tops 100F. Sometimes the shop goes as high as 107—108F

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#4 posted 01-22-2013 03:31 PM

I recently moved from Fla to NC and I no longer work in my shop professionally. I skedaddle at about 40F. I don’t mind heat though, being from Fla.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"!

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#5 posted 01-22-2013 03:37 PM

About 10 degrees Fahrenheit. Fingers can’t handle it below that.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#6 posted 01-22-2013 03:38 PM

I just turn the furnace on and go back out in about 30 minutes. I’m not that tough.

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#7 posted 01-22-2013 03:38 PM

115F+ is about when the evap starts to be less than efficient.

Hey, its Arizona

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#8 posted 01-22-2013 03:45 PM

Yep, heat is the issue here in Texas. Over 100 degrees and it will depend on my mood. In the winter, my space heater makes it somewhat comfortable as long as the weather isn’t freezing. Below 32 degrees and I’m staying inside.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#9 posted 01-22-2013 03:49 PM

It can be -40 Celcius and my shop is still toasty warm. 30’ Radiant tube heater does the trick.

I used to have a shop in a smaller garage and had to heat it with wood stove, by the time it warmed up it was time for lunch… never got much done in there in the winter…

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#10 posted 01-22-2013 04:06 PM

it never crossed my mind about being too hot. i might have to move south :)

-- Joel

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#11 posted 01-22-2013 04:08 PM

Hell I’m a wuss. I fire up the heater at 45-50. My old stiff hands work much better at 60 or above. Mike and I share the same attitude about the heat. Here in OK the temps the last 2 summesr hit 113. When it tops 100, I’m out of there. Even my 2 high output air movers don’t help then. My brain start cooking and I can’t concentrate. At that temp, it’s pool, beer and cigar time

-- "Standing tall has nothing to do with height"

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#12 posted 01-22-2013 04:11 PM

35deg F – 98 deg F. Outside of this range I prefer not to work

helluvawreck aka Charles
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#13 posted 01-22-2013 04:23 PM

When the outside temp. hits -10 I turn my Sterling propane heater off and head for the house because I don’t want to pay for the propane. Looks like the next few days are house days.

-- A tube of calk and a gallon of paint will make a carpenter what he ain't

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#14 posted 01-22-2013 04:27 PM

I have heat in the winter but 80 degrees is my max for the summer.

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#15 posted 01-22-2013 04:38 PM

Last weekend, I was working at 38F, but that was pretty unpleasant. The problem is every time you pick up something metal, it just sucks all the warmth out of your hands.

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#16 posted 01-22-2013 04:50 PM

PERFECT SHOP TEMPERATURE

IMO, I find it to be 55—60F. Absolutely NO sweating, yet cool enough you can add a shirt/vest as needed.

BTW, my earlier comments about leaving the shop at ~100F is really more dictated by my ability/inability to keep a fan directed on me at all times. I have watched rust bubbles pop up in less than 5-min on my cast iron saws and jointers. When I drip, I quit. Sometimes, on rare occasions, the humidity will dictate that “sweat” temperature and ruin a day in the shop.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#17 posted 01-22-2013 05:01 PM

It depends,on what I’m doing, my shop is real small and I have acouple heaters so if I’m usually good to down around 10-20 degree range, but if I’m doing glue UPS or finishing I usually shut it down around 32 if I can’t take them in the house

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#18 posted 01-22-2013 05:01 PM

in the winter shop is always between 50 60 degrees,so I’m good in the winter,summer 90 95 tops and i’m gone

-- Bill in Mich

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#19 posted 01-22-2013 05:08 PM

When it’s too cold or too hot you tend to hurry more and I find that not only do you suffer from the discomfort but the project also often reflects the haste and also much of the enjoyment is sucked right out. Best to just stay indoor and whittle a toothpick or better yet, surf Lumberjocks. In my case I am fortunate to have a community center woodshop to go to.

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#20 posted 01-22-2013 06:55 PM

^true, i go in at -10c because the cold outways the fun.

-- Joel

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#21 posted 01-22-2013 07:28 PM

My shop stays a bit warmer then outside due to its location so if there isn’t a bad wind I can had out there till 15f. There is r30 insulating the heat from the kitchen below so no help there, has a connection to the unheated garage and no insulation in the ceiling. In the summer I stop going out there when the temp is high enough to cause nose bleeds after a few minutes.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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#22 posted 01-22-2013 07:50 PM

Ive noticed that it my feet that get first then my body. I found cheap foam mats at Harbor Freight and good to go. Granted I’m in California so maybe 30 degrees is what I’ve experienced.

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#23 posted 01-22-2013 07:57 PM

“Ive noticed that it my feet that get first”
Why, do you go barefoot? ;)
For me it’s my fingers, even with gloves that go numb quickly.

-- Joel

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#24 posted 01-22-2013 08:01 PM

if I can keep the garage door closed I will work down to 35 or so. I dont sweat enough to keep myself cool above 100 or so. Not that Im wussing out but medically dont sweat enough cant even wet a t shirt when it’s 100 plus working in the hay field

-- The basis for optimism is shear terror

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#25 posted 01-22-2013 08:16 PM

I guess this is where I admit to avoiding working in the garage when the temps dipped to 28F in the mornings for four days. That’s the debt of winter in Phoenix I guess.

Actually I did work out there, but I couldn’t finish anything until it wouldn’t freeze on me.

Still that leaves the other 361 days, with the possible exception of 100+ days of 100F+ temps we have each summer. (It’s gonna be 80F this afternoon—a record high for this date)

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#26 posted 01-22-2013 08:35 PM

Last summer we had some 100 degF days – 102 in the garage. UGH! And humidity was a booger here in the Houston area. Sweat was terrible; getting on everything – wood and cast iron table top! :-(

Thankfully my “shop” is a one car attached garage. Several years ago, we replaced the siding on the house, and while it was open, I had the contractor insulate the outside wall of the garage…about 20 feet. And We replaced the garage door with an energy efficient door. Well, that didnt help any at all. The heat was coming through the ceiling.

Fast forward to this summer. I installed a split system AC w/heat pump and had a contractor blow in R38 insulation over the garage and adjacent bedroom and bathroom. WOW! What a difference. The “shop” is just like any other room in the house now. 31 deg F. outside a week ago, 69 in the “shop”. Kinda expensive fix but it works great.
Note: a window type AC wouldn’t work for me ‘cause the little ol ladies riding around the neighboorhood would write me up! :-( The condenser for the AC sits behind my privacy fence so all is good.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#27 posted 01-22-2013 08:59 PM

<40>80° F; I’m out of there.

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#28 posted 01-22-2013 09:08 PM

It is 8degrees out today so until I install heat shop work is on hold. Anything above 35 degrees I work in the shop. The colder it it the less time I spend. Should get the heat installed this spring.

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#29 posted 01-22-2013 09:16 PM

I have toughed out some of the cold. Finished shingles on Christmas day.

Inside I turn on a kerosene heater but the shop is still open at one end and at the soffits.
So it helps but doesn’t raise the temperture much beyond 15 degrees of the ambient.

Haven’t got insulation in yet. Its getting close though. Will be the last winter without an
insulated shop.

I usually wimp out below 35 degrees. It depends. Right now an artic front has settled in
will be hanging around for around a week. Temps in the teens and single digits.

Not going out there in that . I’m pretty comfortable at 45 and above. But the days
of having a cold shop are numbered. Can’t wait.

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#30 posted 01-22-2013 09:18 PM

I am in the other crew.. I can tell exactly when it goes past 106. That is where it gets uncomfortable, ever with fans blowing. Fortunately worked on a lot of job sites where the builder supplied ac. I hope to see more of that here in texas.

-- Who is John Galt?

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#31 posted 01-22-2013 09:25 PM

90 deg F. Hey you didn’t specify what temp limit lower makes you flee the shop! I hate sweating on my work pieces!

With my current insulation setup, my shop stays about 50 deg F when outdoor temps are in the upper 20s… It rarely (I.E. never seen it happen in my 20 years here) gets below 20 deg F here…

So honestly I am FAR more worried about being too hot than cold.

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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#32 posted 01-22-2013 09:39 PM

shop is set at 62F because I have some tractor paint trying to cure…house is supposed to be at around 68F but been fighting a boiler problem (good thing my HVAC guy decided on using a furnace as the air handler for the AC…not as good as the radiant in-floor but better than nothing). My problem the past few days is getting from the house to the shop in -10F…guess I’m getting old…that 150’ walk in the cold is too much for me.

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#33 posted 01-22-2013 09:44 PM

Anything between 40 degrees to 105 degrees keeps me out of the shop…..
Anything outside that is really unlikely to happen where I live….

:-)

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#34 posted 01-22-2013 09:48 PM

People flee the shop?

:D

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#35 posted 01-22-2013 09:53 PM

Brent, that is just not fair, it was 13 degrees when I left for work this morning.

We get extremes on both ends of the spectrum.

I’m usually good down to 20 degrees or so in the winter. Shop is lightly insulated so I can keep it in the 40’s inside at 20 degrees outside and that is enough to still work.

Summer is worse, triple digits means no woodwork shall be done.

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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#36 posted 01-22-2013 09:58 PM

The Feral Vermonter does not go in until the whisky starts to freeze!

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#37 posted 01-22-2013 10:01 PM

I have a heated garage, but I only turn it on when I have somehting that I need to work on. Cost too much for propane to heat it constantly.

-- Kelly, Allen,KS

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#38 posted 01-22-2013 10:17 PM

I find that I can endure cold for quite a while as long as I have a project that keeps me engaged. The cold gradually seeps in, legs and feet become icy, hands get stiff. I did install an old fashioned trash burner that I feed with wood scraps. With wide open soffits at each end of the flat roofed (unfortunately) shop, it can raise the temp 4 or 5 degrees (f, of course). I’m good for 4 or 5 hours.

Here in the Pac. N.W. we are genetically unadapted to heat. Above 75 f, I start to whine.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#39 posted 01-22-2013 10:26 PM

When Joey in Austin talks about fleeing the shop in +100F days, as I have, we are not talking about those isolated days. In recent years we have been chasing 100 days in a row with +100F Temps during the summer. Yeah, I know this is NOT Arizona BUT even for Texas this is the PITs!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#40 posted 01-22-2013 10:31 PM

Yeh, I’ve been in Texas at 100F. It is miserable in 85% Relative humidity.

At least in AZ it’s a dry heat. 10% to 20% RH typical.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#41 posted 01-22-2013 11:17 PM

No temperature has driven me entirely out of the shop yet (my shop is unheated). But it sure slows me down. And I’ve had to resort to using epoxy instead of wood glue. It’s the only thing that seems to work in these temperatures (around 25-30 degree Fahrenheit).

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#42 posted 01-22-2013 11:20 PM

32 degree or beer 30 which ever comes first…

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#43 posted 01-22-2013 11:28 PM

about 40 F. I’ve been cold and wet enough doing working as an electrician! I’m staying warm and dry from now on ;-)

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#44 posted 01-22-2013 11:58 PM

I don’t mind working in the cold – I haven’t found glue that will set below about 40 degrees though… My wife just loves it when i drag a project and a bunch of clamps into the house too.

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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#45 posted 01-23-2013 12:28 AM

It don’t matter now that I got heat. 9° F here this morning, went right to work.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#46 posted 01-23-2013 12:31 AM

My shop is in the basement/garage.. About 1400 sq ft. It is below the house with block walls and insulated garage doors.

About three years ago I decided to add a wood/coal furnace as a secondary heat source for the shop and house. Right now the outside temps are around 9 deg F. Shop is at 61 and we keep the house around 66. I piped the coal furnace supply and return into the ductwork with a backflow preventer. The floors are a lot warmer since there is no insulation between the garage and living space, master bath is just below the stove and the floors are warm in winter. When the outside temps get in the teens, the main propane gas furnace kicks in for several minutes every hour or so. I go through 3.75 tons of anthrosite nut coal delivered in 40 lb bags. Beats cutting firewood.

By switching to coal I was able to heat an additional 1400 sq ft (shop/garage) heat the house and save 65% over just heating only the house with propane. In winter it is nice to open the door and feel the heat coming off those glowing coals. To add a few degrees to the shop I open a damper to divert half the 650 cfm to the shop.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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#47 posted 01-23-2013 12:33 AM

below 40 or over 95.
but I live in California so it is almost always “IN THE COMFORT ZONE”

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#48 posted 01-23-2013 01:18 AM

On the hot days I work in the morning and retreat after lunch. Winter – anything under the low 50’s and I’m out.
I’m a wimp.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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#49 posted 01-23-2013 01:22 AM

at 40 i start to get discouraged
less than 32 im done
a wood stove provides a little warmth
more than 80 in summer is too hot

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#50 posted 01-23-2013 02:15 AM

being in the lovely HUMID south when it gets in the upper 90’s i call it a day.

winter i’m a big sissy,when it gets around 32 it’s time to go.unless there’s something that has my attention other than numb fingers.

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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