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Triton routers: 2hp or 3hp

by david_larch
posted 01-15-2013 04:55 AM


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NiteWalker

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#1 posted 01-15-2013 04:58 AM

Other than the size they’re pretty identical.
I used to have the 2,25 HP version and for hand held use loved it. Plenty of power and very easy to adjust and use.

For table use I’d go for the big one.
IIRC triton had some parent company issues, but kreg tool is the US distributor of triton tools now.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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bladedust

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#2 posted 01-15-2013 05:04 AM

I have the 2.25 HP version mounted on a table and I’ve had no issues with it. It has plenty of power, but a few extra hoses never hurt anybody.

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david_larch

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#3 posted 01-15-2013 05:07 AM

I’ve read the manuals for both and noticed that the larger model doesn’t note having the through table crank like the smaller model. I think I’ve read reviews stating it is now included. Can anyone verify?

NW and bladedust- thanks for the input.

I’m leaning to the little guy but not by much. I think I’ve seen more favorable reviews more recently is all.

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pintodeluxe

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#4 posted 01-15-2013 05:30 AM

After inspecting at a store, I was not impressed with the Triton. It won a tool review a while back, so I took a look. Specifically, it felt top heavy and the plunge release knob felt chintsy.
I decided on the Freud FT 1700 VCE, which also has the full above the table adjustments. You can raise/lower the bit, change bits, and lock/unlock the collet with an included wrench.
The Freud also has a larger opening at its base. The Triton wouldn’t fit my largest panel raising bit.
The collet lock on the Freud is also excellent.
I own Dewalt, Bosch, and Freud routers so I am no Triton expert. However the quality of that plunge release seemed so cheap, I didn’t want to go any further.
The Freud is worth a look.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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knotscott

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#5 posted 01-15-2013 11:13 AM

In a table, there’s next to no disadvantage going with the larger motor other than price difference. The smaller motor will work much harder over it’s life.

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iamwelty

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#6 posted 01-15-2013 12:18 PM

I have had the big Triton table mounted for several years. Works great! It does have above table crank- an auto lock that engages for bit changing- a quick raise/lower crank and a powerful motor. I’d definately go big for the table. They have good customer service too.

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NiteWalker

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#7 posted 01-15-2013 02:58 PM

Willie, I don’t think freud routers are available any more.

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bondogaposis

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#8 posted 01-15-2013 03:37 PM

I strongly believe that putting a plunge router in a table is a waste as you can’t use many of the plunge features while it is mounted in a table. Why not get a cheaper, non plunge router for in table use?

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Paul

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#9 posted 01-15-2013 03:54 PM

I have the bigger one mounted in a table that I built a couple of years ago. Wrote a review about bit tightening here some time ago and I have not been able to resolve the problem.
It is fine with the half inch bits but when I use a quarter inch bit with their adapter the bits slip and come loose. They simply will not tighten and I’ve tried new collets and bigger wrenches with no luck.
A couple of others have commented also. Their Customer Service was sorry for my trouble and sent a new collet but it did not help.
I would not recommend the Triton

My prior review is here
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1974

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RetiredCoastie

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#10 posted 01-15-2013 03:55 PM

I have both and use them quite a bit although the big one is in my table. One of the advantages is that you don’t need to buy a lift and it adjusts from the top of the table. For delicate hand held routing I just purchased the Bosch Colt that comes with 3 bases and I will get the plunge base some time later. The 2.25 is still a great router for large flat work.

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NiteWalker

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#11 posted 01-15-2013 08:46 PM

bondogaposis, the tritons were designed to be very table friendly routers and even include instructions for table use in the manuals.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 01-15-2013 09:19 PM

I have BOTH routers. I have the 3 1/4hp in my router extension on the TS, and it kicks butt there. I have the 2 1/4hp as handheld now. Used to have it in my horizontal mortising machine but got a double based Ridgid and have it splitting duties in the mortiser. I like them both.

A couple of years ago, I did a review on the 3 1/4hp model HERE. This was at a time when Triton had just completed an upgrade to this router by replacing a plastic gear lift with a metal one. All are metal geared lifts now.

Look closely and you can see both routers, one in/under the TS extension, and the other in the mortiser:

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#13 posted 01-15-2013 09:38 PM

I have the 2 1/4 Triton and have had in it use for a number of years with out problems.

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iamwelty

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#14 posted 01-16-2013 01:59 AM

Bondo- Why a plunge router in a table??? So that bit height adjustment is easy! The Triton provides that without the need of an additional raiser. Try it- you’ll like it!

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HorizontalMike

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#15 posted 01-16-2013 03:17 AM

Bondo,
Here is a view of the Triton ‘above-table’ crank. I had to drill through the cast iron top, nearly using all of my drill index, but it was well worth it.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Manitario

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#16 posted 01-16-2013 03:43 AM

I’ve had the Triton 2.25hp for just over a year. I use it exclusively in my router table. It so far has worked really well for me; the above the table adjustment is simple and smooth and it has plenty of power. I haven’t used it as a plunge router so I can’t comment on the ergonomics/balancing etc. of it, but for a router in a table it is great.

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david_larch

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#17 posted 01-16-2013 05:49 AM

Thanks to everyone for the comments. Very appreciated.

Horizontalmike: I like your dust collection. I may emulate that when the time comes.

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pintodeluxe

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#18 posted 01-16-2013 06:10 AM

NiteWalker –
Checked Amazon, and Freud routers are widely available. They are owned by Bosch.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#19 posted 01-16-2013 07:05 AM

Anyone else have trouble with 1/4” shanks?

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iamwelty

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#20 posted 01-16-2013 08:16 AM

Not a bit a problem with mine… get it? “Bit”?

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NiteWalker

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#21 posted 01-16-2013 08:46 AM

Pinto, thanks for the info on freud’s routers. I thought they exited the power tool business when bosch took over. Nice warranty with those.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#22 posted 06-04-2016 11:39 PM

I have the MOF001 2 1/2 HP router. It’s been in a table for way over 4 years now and just after using it to build my Outdoor shower the worm gear that runs the lift wore out. It skip as I tried cranking to raise the router.
I order a new part from the UK. (34) TRA378 Worm Shaft It appears to be made of metal. I hope it don’t take to long for it to arrive.

http://www.tritontools.uk.com/mof001sparesprice.html

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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#23 posted 06-05-2016 10:49 AM

2.25 HP it’s plenty of power!

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shawnn

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#24 posted 06-05-2016 01:21 PM

I have the 3 1/4 Triton in my router table. The above the table height adjustment & bit changing capabilities are what sold me. I did have an issue with the first 1/4 collet letting bits slip but they sent me a new one & no more issues. I try to purchase 1/2” shank bits for the increased surface area. One thing to remember with the Triton, the height adjusting spaces inside will fill with sawdust and need to be cleaned occasionally. Not a bit deal, pull it out & blow out the dust.

Edit to add: You have to flip the power switch off in order to raise the bit to the lock/removal height. You also have to engage/disengage a height lock lever. These two requirements require you be able to reach under the router table to use the Triton, as well as accessing the speed control. It’s not a problem for me but might be for others. These requirements also determine the mounting position under the table.

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distrbd

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#25 posted 06-05-2016 01:50 PM

Tony, I changed the plastic worm gear 2 years ago, I hope you didn’t pay for the metal one ,as far as I know the metal part will be free to the owners of the older models.

Triton Canada sent me one free of charge (I only paid the shipping)the only thing Triton needed to verify the age of my router was, the serial number.

It is very kind of you to post pictures of the disassembly, for those who need to swap the worm gear more pictures and articles are also available on the net or youtube.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#26 posted 06-05-2016 03:39 PM

Thanks guys!

Ken,
I guess it’s to late for me now…I ordered the part from the UK and I did pay for it $24.88. I didn’t think about asking if there was a recall. Do you have a web address would lead me to the free part?
Thanks,
Tony

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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distrbd

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#27 posted 06-05-2016 06:13 PM

Tony,I didn’t do it online, I called Triton authorized dealer and asked if there was a recall on the older model worm gears and they confirmed that there was , the serial # was /is all they need, I suppose it will still be the same if you call Triton authorized sales and service dealer in your city.

The serial # will show the year the router was manufactured and whether it has the plastic worm gear or not, if it does, they’ll have to send you an upgraded version free of charge.

The part# is:
TRITRA378.
Description:723874 worm shaft(MOF001) TRITON
I would definitely call and find out ,I could give you the name/address of the Canadian dealer where I got mine from but it would not help you much.
Best of luck.
Ken.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#28 posted 06-05-2016 06:40 PM

Thanks for getting back to me Ken! I’m going to look up the service center in our area and give them a shout. I should have done this before I jumped in a ordered one. I’ll post my finding as soon as I find out.
Again! Thank you and have a great weekend!
Tony

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#29 posted 06-05-2016 06:45 PM

In the US this is the Service Center for Triton Router’s.
Toolstream Inc.
380 Crompton St, Charlotte, NC 28273, USA
Toll Free US: +1 (855) 227 3478
www.toolstream.us
warranty.us@toolstream.com

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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Dabcan

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#30 posted 06-05-2016 10:56 PM

I have both, the larger in my keep table, the smaller as a handheld unit. I love the crank to adjust the height, and once you get a hose into the dust port it is quite effective on both models. Soft start is nice, plenty of power too. My 2hp model started sparking within a few hours of use but Trtion sent me a new one immediately no questions asked, and told me to return the defective unit to them at my convenience, top notch customer service.

One thing I don’t like for handheld use is they don’t have a light, and the plastic shield collects dust, so it’s quite hard to see what you are doing if you aren’t simply using a guide. Also, it doesn’t take standard guide bushings so you have to buy the triton ones which cost a lot imo.

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#31 posted 06-06-2016 10:59 PM

@ Ken,
They are sending me a new metal lift worm gear. I also found that the top armature bearing was bad (very hard to turn) and the bottom bearing had a little play in it so I ordered both bearings to take care of that issue also. The cost of the bearings were only $19.19 for both. Again thanks for your help!

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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distrbd

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#32 posted 06-07-2016 12:49 AM



@ Ken,
They are sending me a new metal lift worm gear.

- woodshaver

That’s great news, I’m glad it worked out for you.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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woodshaver (Tony)

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#33 posted 06-18-2016 11:40 PM

I received my worm gear Part from Triton and also the one that I ordered before I knew they would send me one free.
So i installed the worm gear and the new bearing on both ends of the armature and I’m back in business once again!
I put the other worm gear on eBay for sale. I don’t expect to sell it seeing you can get it free from Triton if you qualify. Thanks for the help guys…. she’s running like a tuned race car now!

-- Tony C UAW, St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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