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Project post photo size

by shipwright
posted 12-27-2012 02:57 PM


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Sodabowski

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#1 posted 12-27-2012 03:01 PM

Any actual examples? If you post them big, when viewed large, they will be displayed big :)

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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shipwright

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#2 posted 12-27-2012 03:09 PM

My most recent, among others.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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inchanga

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#3 posted 12-27-2012 03:10 PM

There is a different technique you have to use to post pics on forums and blogs rather than direct to your projects page. The maximum width is 640 pixels so you have to resize pics for forum and blog posting. I don’t know if you are posting to forums and blogs as well as projects but if you are this could be the problem.

-- chris, north wales http://salemchapelfurniture.co.uk/

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#4 posted 12-27-2012 03:13 PM

That we don’t know everything has nothing to do with the brightness ofa-you bulb my friend ! When you run into someone here on the site that has all the answers,(and you will) remember, someone had to tell them too at one time or another ! Merry Christmas my friend, and I see very very well by your light thank you !

-- If it smells good, eat it ! The pig caught under the fence is the one doing all thesquealing

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#5 posted 12-27-2012 03:19 PM

Hey Paul. Interestingly, I have no problem at all viewing your dove photos on my iMac’s screen. No scrolling necessary. It would be interesting to view the html code that LJ uses to display the image.

Merry Christmas, my friend.

Bob

P.S. Ditto to Porchfish’s comment on bulbs :-)

-- Bob, Potomac, MD

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Sodabowski

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#6 posted 12-27-2012 03:24 PM

I see your point Paul.
My (educated) guess is that the server resizes the pictures when you upload them for a blog post, but doesn’t so when posting for a project (where full size is enjoyable) while still generating the thumbnails displayed with the post.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#7 posted 12-27-2012 03:24 PM

Same here Paul, no scrolling everything looks to be a perfect size. I thought the program Martin wrote for the site resized the Photos when you uploaded them.

-- Bob Egbert AKA Sandhill http://www.sandhillwoodworks.com/

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lew

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#8 posted 12-27-2012 03:27 PM

Paul,
I’m using Chrome and your pictures show up full size. Some of them do extend beyond the “title/image #” border but they are completely viewable without scrolling.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#9 posted 12-27-2012 03:51 PM

I think you have found a hole in the browser’s resize functions. I just tried 4 different browsers and two showed correctly and two had the size problem

IE – good
Mozilla Firefox – good
Chrome – bad
Safari – bad

Now this is all on a Windows machine with a large monitor running high res, so results may vary. I also right clicked and downloaded the pictures out of the browsers and they all report the same size when I just look at the pics that I have saved, so I will call it a browser/aspect-ratio problem. But what do I know.

The pictures have been sized to really weird resolutions, although. Maybe if you went with more standard aspect ratios the browsers wouldn’t get so confused. (??)

The sizes you used are:
525×700
490×700
685×700
900×675
900×473
Which is a somewhat strange collection. Can you try changing one of them to a more standard aspect ratio, reload it into LJs and see if the problem persists?

But what do I know?
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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shipwright

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#10 posted 12-27-2012 03:56 PM

The plot thickens.
I’m using Chrome and I frequently have to scroll down to see whole photos, not only mine but others as well.
Maybe I’ll try Firefox.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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casual1carpenter

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#11 posted 12-27-2012 03:59 PM

Paul, Just noticed that Steve beat me to the punch, so I guess I should say I agree with him and that, I am using Win 8 with the firefox browser on a 1900×1200 screen resolution. I have no trouble viewing your pictures in the referenced post at all. That goes for the normal pictures included in the post as well as using the zoom pictures button. One of the smart guys might remember a long time ago that web pages would say ‘best viewed at xyzz resolution’, I wonder if your screen resolution or a browser zoom setting is giving you a conflict.

I actually would like your project pictures to be lots bigger, just once I would like to be able to find even a small fault somewhere, LOL, your postings, projects are so well thought out, planned and executed that it is almost inhuman. Case in point, even the grain orientation of your dove adds to the spectacular effect. The level of detail you put into your art actually deserves the ability to seen in high resolution to be fully appreciated.

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#12 posted 12-27-2012 03:59 PM

Sounds like everyone has explained it. I was thinking along the lines of too many pixtals as Steve suggests. I have been using Picassa and my wife showed me a feature that allows resizing the pictures for mailing to someone with less capacity. Otherwise I have no clue…LOL!

One size does not fit all in internet land. :-)

Tom

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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SPalm

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#13 posted 12-27-2012 04:02 PM

IE is the default and the gold standard. No matter how much people like to hate Microsoft. Kind of like Word and Excel. Always keep a current version of IE around just to check things out – they are all free.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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shipwright

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#14 posted 12-27-2012 04:12 PM

Thanks Steve and all, I’ve solved the problem. My default browser is now Firefox and all is well.

This isn’t the only problem I’ve had with Chrome so I’m not unhappy about having to make the switch.

Steve, In the era of electronic photos as opposed to paper prints, don’t we all crop to weird shapes to cut out the distractions?.... at least that’s my excuse…. Thanks

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#15 posted 12-27-2012 04:15 PM

They look fine on mine and I’m using windows 7 and Firefox. What size are they when you take them? I take mine all in PC size on my camera and they show up just fine in Projects. But, when I use photobucket, they are bigger that the screen for blogs and forums and you have to click View to see them full size. If I know I’m going to use photobucket, I take the picture with all of the subject in the left 2/3’s and it works fine for someone viewing. This electronic stuff is too confusing for my meager brain!!

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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nomercadies

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#16 posted 12-27-2012 04:15 PM

Do you know how large your second dove picture was when you sent it to be shown here? Was in measured in Kb or Mb? Do you know how to find out? Maybe they are too large? Let me try a couple of examples. The larger one if 4.5 mb, the smaller is 500 kb and the smallest is 250 kb. I wonder how these pictures show up on the various screens.

-- Chance Four "Not Just a Second Chance"

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lumberjoe

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#17 posted 12-27-2012 04:24 PM

To thicken it more, I use chrome and have never had to scroll to see images of projects, or images in general on this site that are hosted on aws/s3. Externally linked photos can be huge though.

I.E. used to be the gold standard, but with the massive influx of iOS/MAC OS devices and mobile platforms, I.E has sort of fallen out of standard. The last I heard they were working on phasing out Trident back in 2011 in favor of a webkit-like engine. I know IE9 is still trident, but I haven’t bothered with any newer releases. . Save for MS sharepoint sites, you would be hard pressed to find a SAAS/cloud/web2.x app our company uses that works better in I.E. than it does in a webkit or geko browser. We even had to train our helpdesk and endorse Firefox as our officially supported company-wide browser.

Legacy websites were definitely coded for trident first, and there are still many of them out there. I don’t think that is the problem here though.

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shipwright

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#18 posted 12-27-2012 04:25 PM

nomercadies,The first photo, which showed fine was 3716×1952. (546,611 bytes)
The third photo which required scrolling was 1883×1925 (372,455 bytes)

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#19 posted 12-27-2012 04:50 PM

Hahaha. No idea about any of this, but your post makes me smile :)

-- cathyb, Hawaii, www.cathyswoodworking.com

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#20 posted 12-27-2012 06:09 PM

Strange. I have a MAC with OSX Lion OS and my photos post ok, even when they are cropped. Anyway Paul I’m glad you got your problem solved with some good help.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#21 posted 12-27-2012 06:26 PM

I’m probably missing the point on pic size here but here is what I do.

I have Nikon software that among many other things, transfers files to a folder that I use to upload them from.

I haven’t figured out all the ins and outs and bells and whistles yet of that software . Its quite extensive.

So I open up a photo I want to resize in Paint. I just click on resize, enter the percentage

of reduction until I’m in the max allowable pixel size for this site. Save it with a different name to the
upload folder and its done.

So far this has worked good for me. And its simple.

Just copy and paste original to Paint , resize and save.

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#22 posted 12-27-2012 06:43 PM

wouldn’t it be lovely if all the browsers spoke the same language!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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nomercadies

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#23 posted 12-27-2012 06:48 PM

This was covered a while ago, but it isn’t just flipping a switch. Anyway here is one man’s answer to the problem:

http://lumberjocks.com/GaryK/blog/8899

-- Chance Four "Not Just a Second Chance"

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Joe Lyddon

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#24 posted 12-27-2012 11:24 PM

Paul,

What program are you using to prepare your pictures for publication?

Photoshop 7, for example, if you’re not watching what you’re doing, you can end up with a much larger picture than you imagined.

You can open a picture that, from the camera, is a HUGE picture… BUT, Photoshop will NOT display it at FULL SIZE because it knows that you could not comfortably SEE IT. If you look carefully, you might see that the picture being displayed is but reduced to a nice viewing size as 10% of he full image… In order for you to see the real size, you should click the Magnifying Glass and click the ”-” (minus sign) or ”+” to increase the % seen of the original (100%). Once you get the 10% to read 100%, you will find that you have to SCROLL all over the place to see it! If you fail to see the 10% and proceed to crop, etc. as you would normally do, including Saving & Posting it, the site to where you post it, COULD leave it at it’s REAL SIZE (90% bigger than you thought you had)... Making you very surprised when you see it.

So, check what program you’re using… be sure you know THE REAL SIZE of what you’re looking at.

This MAY be your problem… don’t know… it’s possible…

I personally find your pictures just FINE the way they are! No problems here!

Some sites will not allow HUGE pictures… and reduce them to their Limit before allowing them to be posted.

Chrome, being by Google, MAY, I don’t really know, post the FULL SIZEd pictures as they were uploaded and NOT reduce them…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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shipwright

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#25 posted 12-28-2012 12:03 AM

I use ACDC Joe and that’s not an issue.
Thanks anyway.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#26 posted 12-28-2012 01:30 AM

ACDSee is still one of my favorite basic image viewers/manipulation software. I find myself getting lazy these days and just taking screen grabs of images I want to post instead of properly cropping. If you have a Pro version of windows XP or higher, look for the “Snipping Tool”

It doesn’t get any easier than that

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HalDougherty

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#27 posted 12-28-2012 01:40 AM

Paul,

This is the best free image editor available.

—-
GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It works on many operating systems, in many languages.
—-

The url to read about it is:

http://www.gimp.org/

It has been improved to the point, it’s as powerful as Photoshop. The learning curve is pretty high, but the results are worth it. Download the version for your computer and Google this term: “gimp tutorial” and you’ll find lots of information on how to use the features available. You can resize your photos to the size you need as well as change anything and everything about your photos.

I reduce my photos to 1024 X 768, then I adjust the lighting and even out the shadows before I upload them.

Hal

-- Hal, Tennessee http://www.first285.com

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Roger

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#28 posted 12-28-2012 12:51 PM

I’m sure my way may not be the best way, but, the way I do it is this: 1.open a photo with paint, the reduce the image (I use a 20% vertical, & 20% horizontal) with the camera I use. (you have to experiment with this). 2. Be sure to save the image somewhere where you can find it. 3. I’ll add an e at the end of the name to let me know, this is a shrunken image. This works for me very well also when sending pictures in an email. I’m using Chrome by the way. I say you have to experiment with the % of shrinkage, because each camera is different. Good luck.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#29 posted 12-28-2012 01:08 PM

After cropping or other manipulations, I just use Infranview and re size the pictures to 600X800 which is pretty much the standard maximum size for the forums I use.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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shipwright

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#30 posted 12-28-2012 02:43 PM

I don’t think it’s an issue of file size. See this post.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#31 posted 12-28-2012 06:28 PM

The first photo, which showed fine was 3716×1952. (546,611 bytes)
The third photo which required scrolling was 1883×1925

Here is a possibility:
1st photo was Over the Limit (whatever that is) and was reduced for display.
2nd photo was NOT Over the Limit and was displayed unchanged… which ended up larger than the Reduced one.

The ONLY person I can think of that could answer this question would be Martin…
He would (should) know of any photo Limits and reductions possibly being done, etc.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#32 posted 12-28-2012 06:41 PM

Paul, you mentioned it displays “correctly” in firefox right? If you want to fix it in Chrome, you can do this (auto image re-sizing)

Search your system for your Google Chrome Preferences file:

C:\Users\your user name\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default

file is named just “Preferences”

Open it on a good editor like VI or EMACS, if you don’t have either, notepad will do

Find this in your preferences file:

“webkit”: { “webprefs”: { “inspectorsettings”: “lastActivePanel:string:elements\n” }
}

Add this line:

“shrinksstandaloneimagestofit”: true

after the “inspectorsettings” line, and put a comma after that “inspectorsettings” line.

If that branch doesn’t exist add this whole block BEFORE THE LAST CLOSING “}”:

“webkit”: { “webprefs”: { “inspectorsettings”: “lastActivePanel:string:elements\n”, “shrinksstandaloneimagestofit”: true }
}

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shipwright

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#33 posted 12-28-2012 10:11 PM

Whoa, I’m not sure what that was that just whizzed over my head… but I ducked anyway.

.... I’m OK.

:-)

I’ll just use Firefox. I was more concerned that others were seeing my photos that way and that does not seem to be the case. Thanks anyway but I wasted my life building stuff and came to computers only after my brain had solidified.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#34 posted 12-28-2012 10:41 PM

I’m using Windows 8, Explorer 10 on a HP G7 17.3 Diagonal laptop. When first visiting the link the photos had a scroll bar. I check the browser setting and adjusted the Zoom back from 135 to 100% and the scroll bars are now gone.

Nice project posting, by-the-way.
Regards
DAN

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#35 posted 12-28-2012 10:58 PM

Your answer lies in the way you’re doing it and the tools you use.

My photos get to LJs by way of Photobucket, and I have set the default import file size to the one optimized for LJs (600×800). I know you said that’s not the issue, but I’m thinking it is. That may have been your referenced photo’s sizes somewhere and been fine, but it can’t be that big in LJs and display well. Something else is putting a spin on those pics and blowing their display on the Projects page.

I could be totally wrong, of course.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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shipwright

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#36 posted 12-28-2012 11:58 PM

I only have this problem in the six project post photos, never in blog posts or comment posts.
This is the same photo as in the set above.

I selected it exactly as I did for the one above and here it posts just fine. ...???

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#37 posted 12-29-2012 05:44 AM

Paul, I can’t follow all the technical jargon, but my guess is that your Chrome setting for the size of picture has been changed. You have a setting option for 4×6, 5×7 etc. Be sure it is set on 4×6 and then crop from there without changing the size setting. When you change from 4×6 to another ratio it messes things up.

-- Big Al in IN

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#38 posted 12-29-2012 06:13 AM

people always post huge pictures then wonder what they did wrong simply resize them in a photo editor to the right size which is about 600×600 I post my photos on my site at 300×300 the photos are big enough to see and require less bandwidth I have seen photos over 2400×2400 its just crazy

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#39 posted 12-29-2012 06:14 AM

Paul...

I have no problems with this photo at all… not too big / small… A nice square, centered in the screen… I can see the whole thing very well in the screen.

Looks great.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#40 posted 12-31-2012 05:17 PM

Fascinating…I will have to check this out…some photos I uploaded from Photobucket to my blog were automatically cropped and cut things out of the picture…Haven’t had time to go back and fix them.

-- If you can dream it, I can do it!

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