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What is this?

by Philip "Pip" Storm
posted 500 days ago


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Dan Krager

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#1 posted 500 days ago

Closeup pictures do help but the difference in color is a problem. A larger patch showing some of the irregularities you refer to would be helpful. An end grain shot too.
My first impression of the whole question based on what you said and the closeups, especially the second, is ash.
Some DNR and most universities offer some form of wood ID if you send them a small sample. They can examine it microscopically and confirm the exact species.
DanK

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#2 posted 500 days ago

I just cut a bunch of white oak and ash. It doesn’t look like either. White oak has a tighter grain and ash is lighter. As Dan said, some better/more pictures would help.

Also some information if you have it like is it local to kentucky? If you have any bark pictures of that may help.

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#3 posted 500 days ago

It reminds me of Hickory or Pecan, but it is hard to tell from just a photo.

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#4 posted 500 days ago

I was actually thinking hickory but not with enough gumption to write it. Hickory is extremely hard when dry and tends to burn when you cut it. I never worked with pecan, so can’t comment.

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Lee Barker

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#5 posted 500 days ago

Does it feel relatively light, or heavy?

If it is light, I’m edging toward an imported wood that is used on inexpensive furniture these days. Thing bar stools, unupholstered, and some farm type kitchen tables with clear finish on the top and white paint on the chunky, turned legs.

FWIW, hickory and pecan, to the woodworker, are the same. Not so the botanist and other professionals.

Kindly,

Lee

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markswoodcraft

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#6 posted 500 days ago

mangowood maybe?
it doesn’t look like oak to me

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joein10asee

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#7 posted 500 days ago

I have a few slabs of pecan and they have that pinkish tint like in your bottom pic…

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#8 posted 500 days ago

I have some walnut that looks like that.

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Dan Krager

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#9 posted 500 days ago

Dallas, around here walnut that looks like that is called white walnut, aka (shag bark) hickory. The nuts are also substituted for each other, but the hickory nut is sweeter and not as strong as black walnut.
DanK

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#10 posted 500 days ago

It looks like it could be butternut or hickory. How hard is it? If it is really hard, I say hickory. If it is soft, butternut. My two cents. I have a project that used butternut, take a look at it and see how it compares.

-- Mike

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Terry Ferguson

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#11 posted 500 days ago

Although it isn’t always successful, here’s what I do: take a sample or samples of the wood you want to identify, keep them close by your computer and enter: www.hobbithouseinc.com, scroll down the list of woods and look for close matches.

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#12 posted 500 days ago

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#13 posted 499 days ago

Our hickory here is a lot lighter, with almost a greyish hue to it. Our Pecan has that dark color on the outer layer under the bark but is nearly yellow-white inside on our paper skin pecan trees.

The Walnut I have has been laying for a year and was ruined when the boss stuffed it under the drain for the bg compressor otherwise I’d send a picture. It’s from a young black walnut tree, around 60 years old. I’ll see if I can find some pictures of the tree when it was alive.

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Philip "Pip" Storm

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#14 posted 499 days ago

Here is another pic showing some end grain and side grain.

The trees this came from are in southern Indiana. Which, I’m sure, has Hickory, White Oak, and Pecan. I’m not sure about any other woods y’all have listed. It is a hard wood (notice the burn marks). I haven’t tried the comparison on hobbithouseinc.com yet, but I will. Thanks again for y’alls help.

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#15 posted 499 days ago

Also take a look at Kentucky Coffee Wood. From what i hear its very similar to oak. Cant say so myself.

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#16 posted 499 days ago

Catalpa.

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#17 posted 499 days ago

Definitely not oak or pecan.

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#18 posted 499 days ago

my votes hickory, but what the hell do i know

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#19 posted 499 days ago

Yep, with the new information and pics I’m leaning towards hickory.
DanK

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#20 posted 499 days ago

I’ve used Kentucky coffee bean wood and it is most similar to red elm. It is pretty easily distinguished from oak by looking at face grain, and this is definitely not KCB. I have pictures of a KCB coffee table on my web site.
http://kragerwoodworking.weebly.com/tables.html
DanK

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#21 posted 499 days ago

Ha HA! Looking at all the different “guesses” here, I’d bet the only thing we’d agree upon at this point is that it AINT PINE! LOL

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#22 posted 499 days ago

I think most of us agree that it isn’t Oak…the grain patterns , colors , and end grain photos pretty much decide that : )
I’ll be interested in seeing what it actually is.

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Philip "Pip" Storm

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#23 posted 498 days ago

I compared everybody’s suggestions on hobbithouseinc.com and wood-database.com and the two that stood out the most were primavera and hickory. Being as primavera is from Central America I’m putting my money on Hickory. Thanks for everyone’s help.

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Dallas

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#24 posted 498 days ago

You could always go to your local friendly extension agent in your county or the next county over and they’ll tell you exactly what it is.

In your area there are also dozens of sawmill owners…. find them and ask.

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#25 posted 498 days ago

For fun. I would guess at some specie of walnut, or maybe even butternut

so many variables, choices, so little time

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WDHLT15

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#26 posted 498 days ago

It is hickory or pecan. Probably hickory. If you look close at the end grain, you will see the apotracheal parenchyma in the latewood, however, since you probably would not know a parenchyma cell if you met one in the road, that may be hard to do!!!

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s_grifter

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#27 posted 498 days ago

It really looks like Hickory or Pecan. The two are interchangable in the veneer industry.

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rncurrie

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#28 posted 498 days ago

That kind of looks like Honey Locus to me. I first used some just last week (very hard). My lumber came from Northern Indiana.

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#29 posted 498 days ago

I have some spalted white oak that looks just like the second picture in the first post.

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s_grifter

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#30 posted 498 days ago

This is what we sell as pecan/ Hicory


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