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What is this?

by Philip "Pip" Storm
posted 12-05-2012 10:42 PM


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Dan Krager

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#1 posted 12-05-2012 11:08 PM

Closeup pictures do help but the difference in color is a problem. A larger patch showing some of the irregularities you refer to would be helpful. An end grain shot too.
My first impression of the whole question based on what you said and the closeups, especially the second, is ash.
Some DNR and most universities offer some form of wood ID if you send them a small sample. They can examine it microscopically and confirm the exact species.
DanK

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#2 posted 12-05-2012 11:16 PM

I just cut a bunch of white oak and ash. It doesn’t look like either. White oak has a tighter grain and ash is lighter. As Dan said, some better/more pictures would help.

Also some information if you have it like is it local to kentucky? If you have any bark pictures of that may help.

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#3 posted 12-05-2012 11:20 PM

It reminds me of Hickory or Pecan, but it is hard to tell from just a photo.

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#4 posted 12-05-2012 11:23 PM

I was actually thinking hickory but not with enough gumption to write it. Hickory is extremely hard when dry and tends to burn when you cut it. I never worked with pecan, so can’t comment.

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#5 posted 12-05-2012 11:49 PM

Does it feel relatively light, or heavy?

If it is light, I’m edging toward an imported wood that is used on inexpensive furniture these days. Thing bar stools, unupholstered, and some farm type kitchen tables with clear finish on the top and white paint on the chunky, turned legs.

FWIW, hickory and pecan, to the woodworker, are the same. Not so the botanist and other professionals.

Kindly,

Lee

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#6 posted 12-06-2012 12:20 AM

mangowood maybe?
it doesn’t look like oak to me

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#7 posted 12-06-2012 12:54 AM

I have a few slabs of pecan and they have that pinkish tint like in your bottom pic…

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#8 posted 12-06-2012 01:17 AM

I have some walnut that looks like that.

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#9 posted 12-06-2012 01:20 AM

Dallas, around here walnut that looks like that is called white walnut, aka (shag bark) hickory. The nuts are also substituted for each other, but the hickory nut is sweeter and not as strong as black walnut.
DanK

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#10 posted 12-06-2012 01:22 AM

It looks like it could be butternut or hickory. How hard is it? If it is really hard, I say hickory. If it is soft, butternut. My two cents. I have a project that used butternut, take a look at it and see how it compares.

-- Mike

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#11 posted 12-06-2012 01:27 AM

Although it isn’t always successful, here’s what I do: take a sample or samples of the wood you want to identify, keep them close by your computer and enter: www.hobbithouseinc.com, scroll down the list of woods and look for close matches.

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#12 posted 12-06-2012 01:32 AM

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#13 posted 12-06-2012 01:36 AM

Our hickory here is a lot lighter, with almost a greyish hue to it. Our Pecan has that dark color on the outer layer under the bark but is nearly yellow-white inside on our paper skin pecan trees.

The Walnut I have has been laying for a year and was ruined when the boss stuffed it under the drain for the bg compressor otherwise I’d send a picture. It’s from a young black walnut tree, around 60 years old. I’ll see if I can find some pictures of the tree when it was alive.

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#14 posted 12-06-2012 06:20 PM

Here is another pic showing some end grain and side grain.

The trees this came from are in southern Indiana. Which, I’m sure, has Hickory, White Oak, and Pecan. I’m not sure about any other woods y’all have listed. It is a hard wood (notice the burn marks). I haven’t tried the comparison on hobbithouseinc.com yet, but I will. Thanks again for y’alls help.

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#15 posted 12-06-2012 07:08 PM

Also take a look at Kentucky Coffee Wood. From what i hear its very similar to oak. Cant say so myself.

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#16 posted 12-06-2012 08:48 PM

Catalpa.

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#17 posted 12-06-2012 09:00 PM

Definitely not oak or pecan.

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#18 posted 12-06-2012 10:37 PM

my votes hickory, but what the hell do i know

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#19 posted 12-06-2012 11:02 PM

Yep, with the new information and pics I’m leaning towards hickory.
DanK

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#20 posted 12-06-2012 11:05 PM

I’ve used Kentucky coffee bean wood and it is most similar to red elm. It is pretty easily distinguished from oak by looking at face grain, and this is definitely not KCB. I have pictures of a KCB coffee table on my web site.
http://kragerwoodworking.weebly.com/tables.html
DanK

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#21 posted 12-06-2012 11:40 PM

Ha HA! Looking at all the different “guesses” here, I’d bet the only thing we’d agree upon at this point is that it AINT PINE! LOL

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#22 posted 12-06-2012 11:51 PM

I think most of us agree that it isn’t Oak…the grain patterns , colors , and end grain photos pretty much decide that : )
I’ll be interested in seeing what it actually is.

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#23 posted 12-07-2012 02:20 AM

I compared everybody’s suggestions on hobbithouseinc.com and wood-database.com and the two that stood out the most were primavera and hickory. Being as primavera is from Central America I’m putting my money on Hickory. Thanks for everyone’s help.

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#24 posted 12-07-2012 02:31 AM

You could always go to your local friendly extension agent in your county or the next county over and they’ll tell you exactly what it is.

In your area there are also dozens of sawmill owners…. find them and ask.

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#25 posted 12-07-2012 02:39 AM

For fun. I would guess at some specie of walnut, or maybe even butternut

so many variables, choices, so little time

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#26 posted 12-07-2012 03:56 AM

It is hickory or pecan. Probably hickory. If you look close at the end grain, you will see the apotracheal parenchyma in the latewood, however, since you probably would not know a parenchyma cell if you met one in the road, that may be hard to do!!!

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#27 posted 12-07-2012 02:26 PM

It really looks like Hickory or Pecan. The two are interchangable in the veneer industry.

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#28 posted 12-07-2012 04:52 PM

That kind of looks like Honey Locus to me. I first used some just last week (very hard). My lumber came from Northern Indiana.

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#29 posted 12-07-2012 04:59 PM

I have some spalted white oak that looks just like the second picture in the first post.

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#30 posted 12-07-2012 05:10 PM

This is what we sell as pecan/ Hicory

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