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Attention Newbies, Lurkers, etc.!

by PRGDesigns
posted 12-03-2012 07:23 AM


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#1 posted 12-03-2012 07:52 AM

sadly ….its not only newbies that don´t give the infomation

Dennis

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#2 posted 12-03-2012 07:56 AM

I agree, the more information about you the better

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#3 posted 12-03-2012 09:20 AM

Ya, as soon as I put in my information I am gonna be swarmed by fellow wood workers looking for my high end pine 2×4 cut offs. You know the real good ones stamped with fancy words like “Stud Grade”. Actually I am hoping to update my info and pics soon.

-- No mistakes, just kindling

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#4 posted 12-03-2012 11:37 AM

sure ..i agree to..all my info has been up for 366 days .when i joined..

-- IF YOUR NOT MAKING DUST...YOU ARE COLLECTING IT! SOUTH CAROLINA.

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HorizontalMike

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#5 posted 12-03-2012 04:09 PM

Reincarnation, multiple personality individuals, alternate ego, etc.

While there are many honest newbees who haven’t gotten around to entering this information, there are many others as indicated above, IMO.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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404 - Not Found

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#6 posted 12-03-2012 07:59 PM

I don’t often agree with HM, but on this occasion I do.
I once received a PM from a member about another member. This was more than a whine. The guy who messaged me had traced the location of the other member by looking up the telephone number on the other guys website, did a virtual drive by in Google Street View and proceded to tell me the worth of this guy’s real estate. He told me he’d done all this like it was some sort of community service.

Now if that isn’t f*cked up, I don’t know what is.

I’m not trying to paint the picture that all Lumberjocks are stalking maniacs with a chip on their shoulder, but there are members out there with dubious thought processes.

I’m satisfied to know that you lot live at the end of my telephone wire and vice versa.

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#7 posted 12-03-2012 08:11 PM

I’m English, I speak only English, but I try as hard as I can to be understood in American. I hope Y’all all appreciate how hard this can be. Theres no point trying to enforce any sort of geographical requirement as people would just BS the info, however it would be nice if non English speakers gave the rest of us a point of reference.
For the record I live near but not in Newcastle upon Tyne, England.

-- ... Never Apologise For Being Right ...

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#8 posted 12-03-2012 08:40 PM

My post was just for general locales and not specifics to avoid the situation renners mentioned, which is why I suggested even a State or at least a Continent. I want everyone to feel as welcome as I did when I joined just a short amount of time ago relative to others who have been on here from inception. Since we now know where BigYin is, are we all going to rush out to stalk him? Not hardly. Since I have lived in so many states and travelled extensively by vehicle in the upper Midwest of the USA, I was always on the lookout for woodworking resources, i.e. local lumber mills, tool stores, etc. If I know somebody’s location, I may even be able to direct them to some of those resources. One poster stated they couldn’t find a specific hardwood in their area and I knew better. I posted 2 specific vendors in the area that I knew had the materials they were looking for. Knowing that Benji Reyes is in the Philippines lets me experience his project from his frame of reference for his inspiration, local resources he used, etc.

I appreciate all of the assistance other LJr’s have given me and would like to pay it forward so to speak by providing a similar level of assistance when it is warranted. I believe having a general idea of where someone is provides a world of knowledge about what they can expect from their woodworking experiences. Knowing a LJr is in the Pacific NW vs the Phoenix, AZ area lets you know right off the bat that humidty, or lack thereof, is going to play a big role in how wood will react. Won’t make a difference on the HP of any given tool or a blade/bit selection, but it will for a wood inquiry.

What I try desperately not to do is infer that my way is the only way to do it, as I have seen some uninformed LJr’s do in their posts. I try to only offer my advice as having worked / not worked for me as the case may be. I am constantly striving for continued process improvement in everything I build. My brain never shuts off, thus my insomniac postings at all hours of the evening/night CST/CDT. How can I do it better, faster, cheaper (buying a quality part for less money – not substituting an inferior product to save money), or different, to meet buyer’s expectations.

To all LJr’s, if you are going to make an inquiry on the Forum, please provide your general location for those of us who give a darn about a possible response. It has gotten to the point where I may just go on “strike” so to speak and not provide whatever potential response I may be willing to share unless they are willing to share a location. Thanks for letting me vent.

-- They call me Mr. Silly

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#9 posted 12-03-2012 08:47 PM

All I know is that by posting location honestly, I have been able to meet other LJs face-to-face and call them my friends.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 12-03-2012 08:57 PM

Ditto HM. If I hadn’t reached out to others for help, my fancy CNC would be gathering dust, like a lot of the other WW stuff I bought every time I had a fight with my EX. I appreciate my mentor on the CNC and the other LJr’s who have provided me with inspiration for projects, ideas to improve processes, etc. and try as I can to provide credit where credit is due so they know how much I appreciate trusting this forum to communicate with.

-- They call me Mr. Silly

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#11 posted 12-03-2012 09:35 PM

I’ve benefited greatly from LJ comments, rantings, and advice – Lord knows, I’ve asked for and received more help than I’ve given; though, I’m trying hard to balance the equation. However, there are too many “Off-Topic” comments, too many interlopers who want one thing, and are then gone.

I wish this site had some supervision, some butt-kicking and tough-love when necessary. LJ remains my go-to site for woodworking; however, we collectively need to ensure that quality is nurtured and reinforced.

MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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#12 posted 12-03-2012 09:52 PM

BigYin:

Interesting that we’re discussing identifying location – Newcastle-Upon-Tyne – some excellent friends live in your neighborhood; some several thousand miles away from where I call home. This is why it’s good to see things like this.

I do agree that individuals who want to hide their location would simply misrepresent where they live – you can not legislate morality or truthfulness.

MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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#13 posted 12-03-2012 10:24 PM

+1 for adding general location. When I first joined lumberjocks I was amazed at how many members there were nationally, but I was bummed to see that there was basically nobody in the Albany NY area. I’m betting there are a few dozen people in the area that just haven’t updated their profile. I’m curious what the statistics are for the % of lumberjocks that post a location vs the number that do not.

-- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx

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#14 posted 12-03-2012 10:29 PM

BigYin, as a native Texan that doesn’t sound like one, I can only apologize on behalf of my country for what we’ve done to your language.

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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#15 posted 12-03-2012 10:54 PM

Agreed! I would like to know the general area of where somebody is writing from, and I feel more friendly with those who do not seem to be hiding or paranoid. It takes just a moment to enter a city or state.

I live in Chicago. Where do you live? I promise I won’t stalk you unless you!

I have been made to feel more welcome here at LJ than any forum I’ve ever been on. Even got PMs from fellow members when I disappeared for a while… not once, but a few times. That is the nature of this forum… friendly.

A simple matter of letting fellow members know where you’re writing from – just a general geographical location – is a small way of making one’s self a part of the community.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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patron

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#16 posted 12-03-2012 11:11 PM

well
i could tell you
i am in new mexico

but then i might have to teach you something
or learn from you

bring wood
oh yeah …. and food

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#17 posted 12-03-2012 11:12 PM

Lets go one step further and give a first name it’s more like your talking to a human rather than … great looking project D479ovm6+2 :))

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#18 posted 12-03-2012 11:14 PM

The UK & the US – “two countries separated by a common language” – I’m not sure who said this, but they are correct.

What I found interesting, in my corporate pursuits, is how everyone wanted to hear my English (American, really), rather than speak their native language with me. In India, I had a large team, and the only common language was English – India is a country of vastly different ‘mother tongues’; the currency has the denomination written in 14 different ‘scrips’.

I live southeast of Baltimore.
MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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#19 posted 12-03-2012 11:16 PM

I agree with David, and make sure there’s a 6 pack with the food. If you want to know were I live, you’ll need to look at my profile.

But I agree, I have actually not posted a reply to some questions because I didn’t know where the question was coming from.

I always look at the profile, especially if its items for sale. And if its an item for sale and the profile time is still in hours, I close the window.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#20 posted 12-03-2012 11:41 PM

OK Jim, for THIS week only, I am “VerticalMike”. I got rear-ended on the Harley last Friday, pulled off the handlebars and foot-controls, bounced off the step-seat and sissy bar, thrown forward, AND I actually managed to re-grab the handlebar/controls and stop the bike without going to the pavement!! Now if that doesn’t earn me a “VerticalMike” then I don’t know what does. Just glad it was a ~15mph hit in town.

My back and shoulders are all sore as the dickens, BUT I AM VERTICAL! BTW, having all those old rib/backbone fractures(36-38 of them) and arthritis in the lower back doesn’t help either, BUT I AM VERTICAL!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#21 posted 12-03-2012 11:58 PM

Lucky Mike is more fitting. You don’t usually get to walk away.

-- Nicky

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#22 posted 12-04-2012 12:03 AM

Thanks everyone for keeping this post alive. Hopefully it will pop up every now and then for newbies and lurkers to consider when joining LJ.

HM – sorry to hear about the rear ender. Vertical is always preferable to permanently horizontal and assuming room temperature.

a1Jim – most people call me Mr. Silly, but a few of my closest friends just call me Silly. This moniker is a call back to one of my favorite movies – “In the Heat of the Night”. Mr. Virgil Tibbs is brought into the local police station apparently because of the color of his skin and after they refer to him by several less than complimentary names during questioning and discover he is actually a police officer, he advises the local police “They call me Mr. Tibbs” inferring that where he is from, they respect individuals for who they are rather than the color of their skin. I also don’t like to lose the focus of PRG Designs, which is derived from my father’s initials. He was my inspiration for most of my ADULT life, and especially since he passed way too early.

-- They call me Mr. Silly

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404 - Not Found

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#23 posted 12-04-2012 12:11 AM

Mike,

Rear-ender? not good.
Glad you got out of it in one piece. Whisky and a hot bath help.

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#24 posted 12-04-2012 12:35 AM

@PRG—I was thinking about this just last week. I was wondering if LJs could search profiles to identify other LJs in their general area. I understand the security concerns though, but for those that wouldn’t mind mentoring a local, aspiring woodworker, it might make for good contacts.

BTW, I use my real name as my profile, so if people really wanted to contact me, I would be pretty easy to find.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#25 posted 12-04-2012 12:39 AM

Glad you moved to vertical Mike.

It is nice to know what part of the world you are communicating with sometimes.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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HorizontalMike

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#26 posted 12-04-2012 02:17 AM

”...It is nice to know what part of the world you are communicating with sometimes….”

Uhh… not always so nice when that other “part of the world” drives up and smacks you in the ole 6-O’clock, if you get my drift. ;-) Now all I have to do is deal with the insurance “adjusters”... oh joy. To bad that these “adjusters” aren’t as nice as the guy who hit me. No problems there, only with the “insurance company.”

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#27 posted 12-04-2012 04:22 AM

They’re just looking out for stock price, profit and CEO bonuses. Give ‘em a break. Tough job, but it has to be done ;-)

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#28 posted 12-04-2012 04:25 AM

I like when others do put some info down but I don’t think it’s any of my business what they choose to do. Having said that, I will admit that I tend to focus more on those who do give me a sense of where they are . . .

-- Dwight - "Free legal advice available - contact Dewey, Cheetam & Howe""

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#29 posted 12-04-2012 04:27 AM

So,,, can anybody guess my name and where I am from my user-name? It’s pretty cryptic and well hidden clue!

-- Perform A Random Act Of Kindness Today ... Pay It Forward

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#30 posted 12-04-2012 04:30 AM

Ten Penny Joe from Tenesse?

-- They call me Mr. Silly

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#31 posted 12-04-2012 06:34 PM

While I dont think we should all live in a protected bubble, I dont think its necessary to share your info just for the sake of others. If you are trying to help someone out and need their location to do so, then just ask them, and if they want – they’ll tell you. I dont see the big deal

With my user name, along with my picture, you could probably find out everything there is to know about me with a couple of google/facebook searches. I just dont feel the need to HAVE to post my info…just for the sake of others.

That all being said….if you want to share your info, then do it. If you dont…then dont.

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#32 posted 12-04-2012 08:22 PM

I think that everyone should just make his/her own decision on this issue. One man’s privacy is another man’s paranoia.

Paranoia is just having the right information.
- William S. Burroughs

I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In Morse code.
- Emo Phillips

-- “While the world with closed eyes sleeps, The sky knows and weeps - steel rain. ” ― Nathan Bell

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#33 posted 12-05-2012 01:15 AM

I’m confused, why would you want to know where lurkers live. Are you going to go out and harass them until they post ;-)

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#34 posted 12-05-2012 02:52 AM

You’re right. Inevitably some newby will post about some tree he milled and want’s to know if it’s okay to sticker it outside/inside. How do you know what to tell them unless you know where they live. Alaska and Alabama are quite different places to dry wood.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#35 posted 12-05-2012 03:07 AM

who really cares where some one hangs their hat ?

or what their name really is ?

who wouldn’t help a stranger?

or even worse, disrespect their right to privacy ?

“protocol” is often misguided

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#36 posted 12-05-2012 04:41 AM

knock knock – Lurker is a moniker they hang upon themselves, i.e. “I was a lurker before I joined and now have a question I need answered, blah, blah, blah….”

Moron – the beauty of this site is the enrichment you and all the other LJr’s bring to the site. My request was broad enough to include a “continent” to provide some frame of reference for any potential answers I might formulate. In answer to your inquiry, “who wouldn’t help a stranger”, advising someone about the potential humidity effects on any given project is waste of my time and the “newbie” if the advice I might provide is specific to a certain part of the country I am familiar with. I may not always remember to put in the proper disclaimer in my haste to post. I would not begin to provide my personal experience to someone in Phoenix, when I have never lived there and/or experienced woodworking in that part of the county and would thereby “pass” on “helping a stranger” knowing my help may not be as helpful as others more knowledgeable about that specific area.

Doug – I never would have suggested to you in any way shape or form to avoid using your real name or picture because it is none of my business how you identify yourself in your moniker. If you would have asked, I would have suggested that you not use your name, especially your “legal” name (i.e. middle initial) as a moniker for any website, nor use your face in a picture. You’re young and enthusiastic and will learn over time what works for you and what doesn’t and how simple things like that can come back to haunt you. I have thoroughly enjoyed communicating with you on this forum and outside of this forum and hope to continue that for the balances of our respective lives. Woodworking is a bond we all share and thus why we care. We also shared a common geographic past that helps us understand each other in a better way. I am very familiar with the challenges and/or resources available in your area and I believe many of our discussions have benefitted from knowing that information about one another.

From what I understand, some of you don’t even want someone to identify what continent they are on – some one might find them! I believe the solution is simple and I will start doing it immediately. Others can do as they please, thus more of the beauty of this site. My solution – if you ask a question or are seeking advice that could be geographic specific, I promise not to waste the poster’s time, nor mine, by responding, unless a general geographic area is provided. Problem solved. Consider this post as closed. Thanks for your input.

The best part about this subject was finding out HM is OK after being rear ended – and not in a prison setting sort of way….....

-- They call me Mr. Silly

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#37 posted 12-05-2012 05:21 AM

the trade and art of joinery should pass through not just backyards

but across oceans

knowledge should never be held within the bounds of “protocol”

nothing is gained through selfish posture

geographic location and names are useless unless a personal agenda is being implemented

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Moron

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#38 posted 12-05-2012 05:23 AM

we are mortals

not Gods

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#39 posted 12-05-2012 05:54 AM

”Remember you are Mortal”
Mel Brooks

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#40 posted 12-05-2012 06:11 AM

love yer line Rex, “eyeball to eyeball with the blind”

even the blind can see

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#41 posted 12-05-2012 05:16 PM

”...The best part about this subject was finding out HM is OK after being rear ended – and not in a prison setting sort of way…….....”

And it happened in San Antonio… Oh crap! I just gave away some geographical information! Dagnamit! All the Amway folks are going to be knockin’ on my door! Oh crap!...

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#42 posted 12-05-2012 06:12 PM

You can take refuge in the Alamo.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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