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Interesting grain after turning, what is this?

by lumberjoe
posted 631 days ago


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Sodabowski

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#1 posted 631 days ago

Dude, that’s spalted something. From the thin lines I would tend to tell ”Xylaria Polymorpha” as for the mushroom that attacked it, which LOVES maple. I have a bunch of lined maple munched up by that very spalter, so I guess it’s one of the possibilities. Another one is beech, with a different mushroom in that case, Fomes Fomentarius. Can you do a close-up in full light so we can see in details? I kinda spy some green in there, which would mean beech + Fomes + Chlorociboria.

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lumberjoe

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#2 posted 631 days ago

Spalting is possible. It’s definitely not maple.

here is the off cut from that specific blank:

here is the end grain

Also here is another blank that appears to be the same species

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Ripthorn

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#3 posted 631 days ago

That last shot looks like it could be some sort of palm. Not sure though, as your first two pics scream spalted something. My gut reaction was spalted cherry, but the later pictures are certainly not that.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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lumberjoe

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#4 posted 631 days ago

It works a lot like zebrawood, if that is any help. My first thought was olivewood, but after some research, it doesn’t appear to be.

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Sodabowski

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#5 posted 631 days ago

Wow that’s a tricky one. Not maple at all, nor beech. Can’t be palm. Mahogany maybe? though it’s very clear.

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lumberjoe

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#6 posted 631 days ago

Ripthorn, you may be correct:

Black palm: Black fibers embedded in a lighter tan or light brown colored body. Fibers are more densely packed toward the outside of the tree trunk, becoming more and more sparse toward the center of the tree. The center core of the tree is soft and contains none of the darker vascular bundles that give the wood its characteristic look and hardness. (This is nearly opposite of the typical outer sapwood/inner heartwood combination found in dicot hardwoods.)

The end grain certainly looks like palm

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#7 posted 631 days ago

Could that possibly be Chinaberry? Coloring looks somewhat like some I use to try to whittle in the 50’s.

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Sodabowski

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#8 posted 631 days ago

Not palm, the hardness is at the two opposite extremes between the dense black fibers and the soft material in between them. Palm is an absolute PITA to turn, I spent three full hours turning a black palm pen once and won’t do it again. It splinters like crazy even with the sharpest carbide tools, the fibers tear out, I had to turn it using mostly 80 grit sandpaper and take the time… The endgrain sure looks like palm but you’d have had a really hard time with it, which doesn’t seem to be the case.

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lumberjoe

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#9 posted 631 days ago

It splintered a lot, and if you look at the pic of the blank, it is splintering like crazy. I am just good :)

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Sodabowski

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#10 posted 631 days ago

Well maybe then, but anyway the endgrain view of palm can’t be confused: the fibers are always seperated. In this case you have a bunch of hard stuff with some softer stuff in between. Or you stumbled upon a very special specimen :)

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Sodabowski

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#11 posted 631 days ago

Black palm blank that I drilled a year ago and that will wait until the end of time before I turn it!

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Sodabowski

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#12 posted 631 days ago

Your stuff looks like wenge or mahogany, without the color.

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#13 posted 631 days ago

Yikes! The only wood I have not been able to turn so far is African blackwood. It’s never even made it off the drill press table in one piece.

I think it is some rather plain red palm:

http://www.exoticwoodgroup.com/images/penblanks/RedPalmpenblanks.jpg

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Sodabowski

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#14 posted 631 days ago

Ah yes, that looks more like your stuff indeed. African blackwood is a pesky species, but it’s worth the effort, I made a crude preliminary version of a two-tone electric guitar fretboard out of African Blackwood and Redheart. Without a table saw nor any decent mitering jig… but boy, does that beast shine after some sanding!

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biggeorge50

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#15 posted 630 days ago

A friend of mine made a duck call and a goose call out of black palm. They are sure beautiful, but he said it will take him at least a year to build up the patience to do any more.

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#16 posted 630 days ago

My first inclination was indeed a palm. Definitely not black palm…I have that at home and the darkest fibers are black. My guess too is a red palm.

If it’s like black palm, when you cut it with a table saw the fibers will fly back at you like little darts. Closest thing to a porcupine you’ll ever experience. Also, if you get a big splinter within 5 seconds of handling it, you’ll know its palm.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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