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Shopping for a Band Saw, 14"

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#1 posted 10-29-2012 10:47 PM

Oh, Re-Sawing is my priority.

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#2 posted 10-29-2012 10:49 PM

Seems like the Rikons get rave reviews around here. The 10-325 is on sale at Woodcraft right now.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#3 posted 10-29-2012 10:57 PM

Go with the Rikon 10-325. 799.99 and a 100 dollar gift card at woodcraft. They also have the 18” rikon on sale for 999.99 (500.00 off)

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#4 posted 10-29-2012 11:04 PM

Man, if you’ve got 220 available and resawing is your goal I think I’d go for that Rikon 18 inch for $999.

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#5 posted 10-29-2012 11:07 PM

That’s the saw I was most interested in. That’s why I put stars by it.
It seems like a real nice saw for the $.
What about Grizzly, does anyone own one, and how are they?? I am a little concerned after buying a jointer by them, it just seems…average at best. Kinda asian made, maybe a bigger and better Harbor Frieght if they had the investors.. ha

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#6 posted 10-29-2012 11:13 PM

I have a panel at my disposal, 2 circuts will fit, lots of open slots.
18 ” of a saw is more than i need, but for a G that’s nice

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#7 posted 10-29-2012 11:13 PM

If I had $1000 to spend on a bandsaw, I would not even consider a 14” machine.
This would likely be my choice:

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#8 posted 10-29-2012 11:16 PM

See, that’s what I mean.
That saw looks awesome, I mean, really nice, but is it the saw that is worthy?
I read so many reviews on Band Saws and I just cannot decide…
Do I wait for a Laguna?

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#9 posted 10-29-2012 11:26 PM

You can always wait and see if there’s something better. You can wait ‘till the cows come home and have nothing but cows in the end. :)

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#10 posted 10-29-2012 11:44 PM

what kind’a cow have you got Charlie?

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#11 posted 10-30-2012 12:56 AM

FWIW, i have a rikon 10-340, predecessor to the 10-345. it is a beast. and in my contact with rikon, i wish all companies were like them relative to CS. if i didn’t have the 10-340, i’d look seriously at the 10-345, and i try to never buy new tools.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#12 posted 10-30-2012 02:15 AM

I’ve had my 17” Extreme Series Grizzly for 3 years and still love it. Its primary job has been resawing lumber from firewood and I cut a lot of tough wood: Hedge,Blackjack,etc. I like it a lot better since I put a 1”, 1TPI resaw blade on it. I then take all the guides off, put the Carter Stabilizer and a 1/4” blade and cut bandsaw boxes like I posted tonight. If mine ever dies, I’d buy another just like it!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#13 posted 10-30-2012 03:19 AM

I’d get the 17 or 18, bigger resaw means bigger projects. Good to have the flexibility. My nest BS is going to be the biggest I can get. I don’t care that much about the brand name, leave that to the snobs as long as it does what I want.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#14 posted 10-30-2012 03:27 AM

Wait and get the saw you want. Don’t want to regret it or always second guess your choice to settle for something…I have and regret it still…

Keep is posted on what you decide!

-- If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...

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#15 posted 10-30-2012 04:27 AM

I have used my brothers rikon 10-325 many times for resaw projects cutting many hardwoods and have to say never had any problems Thats my new toy goal before this year is over. On sale now at w/c 799.00

-- --Dave, Downers Grove, Il. When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams

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#16 posted 10-30-2012 11:37 AM

steve6678, oh believe me I have several cows. I agonize over these decisions probably more than most people because I over-analyze everything. What you’re doing is the right way. Look around, ask for input, and then make a decision and go buy something. I look around, ask for input, and then get analysis paralysis :)

And then I get a cow.

There are times when I seem to remember how I got all these cows and when I do that, I end up with a Steel City 35990G, a Dewalt 734, a Grizzly 6” jointer, a nice old Delta 14” band saw, ...stuff like that, because I set a goal for WHEN to get something and force myself to make a decision. But if I sit on the fence too long… I get a cow.

:)

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#17 posted 10-30-2012 11:48 AM

+1 for the Grizzly Extreme Series. I have had nothing but great use out of mine. Cuts true, quiet, and a nice, big table.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#18 posted 10-30-2012 01:14 PM

I love my 14” Rikon 10-325 BS and have it set up with a 3/4” Timberwolf 3TPI blade. It resaws great. That being said, I also know that I have the tension literally maxed out in order to tension the 3/4” blade. I am getting away with this though I suspect, but don’t know for sure, that I may be shortening the lifespan of this BS somewhat. The 18” Rikon at $1k would be perfect, IMO. The Rikon machine is a good quality machine and I understand that Rikon is high on the list for good customer service, though I have never needed to call them for anything.

Tension Arm ON

Tension Arm OFF—Still has some tension on the blade

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#19 posted 10-30-2012 01:42 PM

Rikons .

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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#20 posted 10-30-2012 01:53 PM

I have had a Grizzly GO555 for a couple years now and just love it. I purchased the riser block kit, the resaw fence, and the mobile base….I use only woodslicer blades from Highland woodworking….I can cut through 8” walnut like cutting through butter. I know that we all have our favorites but this is the must important too lin my shop and I would not give it up for anything! Good luck in your search…take a look at this saw..it is terrific!

-- Measure twice and cut once.....

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#21 posted 10-30-2012 02:05 PM

With a $1K budget you can afford a whole lot more band saw than a 14”. Especially since you stated resawing is a priority for you, a 14” with a riser block is what many consider an absolute minimum.

Look into Rikon or Grizzly, both make excellent saws with great features.

The Grizzly G0513P has already been suggested, and for very good reason.
I have not been near one of those saws, but have been on a G0555 and it was quite nicely made. With the exception of the cheap plastic dust hose, I haven’t gotten anything out of Grizzly that didn’t far exceed my expectations.

The Rikon 10-245 is at the upper limit of your budget range at $999.99 @ Woodcraft (didn’t bother price checking competitors, sorry…) and it has a great reputation. I have a coworker that owns one of these that I have borrowed for resawing when the stock is too big for my 14” saw. I wish I had the $$ for one. Really nice machine! Sewing machine smooth, fit and finish second to none. Not sure how long he has had it or if this is the right model #, but that is the current version and it looks the same…

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#22 posted 10-30-2012 02:29 PM

Steve:
I have a 19” Grizzly which I bought used but practically new (for $600!). I’ve been very happy with it. The design and features seem to be pretty good. I like Grizzly’s fence design. With that being said, from what I’ve seen Rikon is on par with the Grizzly so price and convenience may decide there. I would lean toward the bigger saw since you intend to resaw though.

-- Ray - Spokane, WA - “Most people don’t recognize opportunity because it’s usually disguised as hard work.” - Unknown

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#23 posted 10-30-2012 03:08 PM

I went through the same research back in August. I was looking for a re-saw bandsaw that could handle 12” boards with enough power to cut at a reasonable speed. I settled on the Grizzly G0513X2BF. With a couple of exceptions (missing bag of parts and needing to align the upper set of bearings) it is a wonderful tool. I noticed that I received the Grizzly Christmas sales catalog in the mail yesterday. I have not had a chance to look at it yet.

I would definitely suggest a serious look at this saw.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#24 posted 10-30-2012 04:46 PM

Look into a used Hitachi or Makita. They are purpose built for
resawing.

I have one and it outperforms the 20” 600lb. Delta I had
before, running a 1” wide Laguna Stellite blade. The Hitachi
runs a 3” wide blade and the cuts are so straight it makes
resawing almost fun… which it generally isn’t, imo.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#25 posted 10-30-2012 04:53 PM

I will tell you I have the Jet 14” bandaw in the 110 volt version. I put the extension on it that added I think it was 6”. I bought a $120 carbon tipped resaw blade. And it works, but it doesn’t work well. If I’m cutting through 6” or more in width it is a really slow process. But it does get the job done. I’m happy with it, but if you have a lot of resawing to do you may want something bigger.

-- Mark Smith, Tracy, CA., http://www.markscustomwoodcrafts.com

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#26 posted 10-30-2012 05:33 PM

There are lots of good band saws out there that are performing well and at its

cheaper cost. But when looking for band saws , you should consider what material

you gonna cut , the shape of the material that’s gonna be processed , the blade and

material sizing -this is one of the important issues in choosing band saws ,
be conscious also if is bundling important and if mittering necessary.
Hope I help you somehow.

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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#27 posted 10-30-2012 07:24 PM

Steve, I have the Grizzly G0555 w/6” riser block and really like it. It all depends on what type of work you do, how much you’re REALLY willing to spend and when do you need it. Here’s a thought, Grizzly has their scratch & dent sale every June. Muncy Penn is not TOO far from Mass. so if you can wait? Maybe a little road trip would be nice. A friend of mine went to it one year and when he returned his truck was loaded. During this sale the prices are GREAT. Good luck.

Jim Roberts

-- Jim Roberts, Port Orchard Washington

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#28 posted 10-30-2012 11:18 PM

Thanks all.
I will continue researching.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#29 posted 11-01-2012 12:18 AM

Seriously considering this saw

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#30 posted 11-01-2012 12:42 AM

Or this one…

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#31 posted 11-01-2012 12:51 AM

I spent 1/2 hour speaking with a sale manager and Laguna’s customer service about the bad reviews I recieved about their product and service…They made me feel pretty good considering I told them I was very skeptical. I asked why I hear so much static about them, they assured me that the company has gone through major personnel changes and have reconsidered at all levels who they hire and let deal with issues concerning their machines…I dunno, I don’t know how to feel, except that my insight towards Laguna has been comprimised since I heard all the stuff from Lumberjocks. I may give them my business, I may not, I may get more for my money from a Grizzly, but be nervous from the islands it comes from, who knows anymore, I may get scientific and build my own, shit, whtever.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#32 posted 11-01-2012 01:29 AM

FWIW, i’m a value buyer, so the grizzly gets my nod. like not owning the best house in a neighborhood, because it’s actually a poor investment with poor potential long term returns, i view the infamous “top of the line” tool as usually providing “fluff” i don’t need. i never could see what makes laguna so desirable when there are so many other good tools out there that leave additional resources at the woodworker’s disposal. just my $.02.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#33 posted 11-01-2012 01:45 AM

Why does EVERYBODY put down Laguna…
I don’t understand…
If it’s money than…that don’t make sense.
If it’s a Lamborghini vs. Lexus vs. Hyundai thing then, still don’t get it.
I like the Grizzly, I like the Rikon, I like the Laguna
wtf, if it’s the customer service thing, c’mon, prove it.
I think it’s a bunch of dudes that can’t have the ball at the Pharmacy again.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#34 posted 11-01-2012 01:48 AM

*i.e. – when our Mom’s wouldn’t let us have that ball in the big rack of rubber balls…

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#35 posted 11-01-2012 01:51 AM

I’d say it will be hard to go wrong with either saw. When
you get into panel processing and drilling equipment that’s
where some of the importers seem to be selling a lot
of lemons that don’t hold tolerances and won’t cut or
drill parts accurately. Bandsaws aren’t expected to work
to such fine tolerances as the stock always moves and
requires surfacing afterwards with a few exceptions.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#36 posted 11-01-2012 02:00 AM

I’ve seen a tear-down in person of their TableSaw, wow, very impressive.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#37 posted 11-01-2012 02:07 AM

I can only say that I purchases my 18” Rikon 6 years ago. Never had a bandsaw before but I’ve been very pleased with it. I don’t know if waiting is a good thing because 6 years ago I paid $700 for the 18” I’m suprised how fast the price has increased. Also if you live near a Woodcraft you can pick it up yourself and save alot on freight, but the 18” when I picked mine up was 490 lbs. so you need a helper.

-- Tom D

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#38 posted 11-01-2012 02:10 AM

wow, that’s a couple’a guys and a donkey to get it in the shop

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#39 posted 11-01-2012 02:11 AM

I love the fit & finish of Rikon…nice looking machine. I never seen one up close.
How are the guides, the guides seem to me to be of the ut-most importance in a Bandsaw

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#40 posted 11-01-2012 02:31 AM

Steve, I have had the G0513X2 saw for about 2 years and I have been happy with it. The one thing I don’t like about it is that it doesn’t have a blade brake, so it takes about 5 seconds for the blade to stop when you turn it off which IMO is more of a safety issue than a convenience issue but it goes both ways. I paid I think $650 for mine on craigslist in like new condition. One other thing to consider about this saw is I think it maxes out at a 3/4” blade, I think there are some other saws on the market that will accept bigger blades which may be a factor for you since you say your primary use will be resawing. Aside from those two things I would have no reservations about recommending it.

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#41 posted 11-01-2012 02:50 AM

Thank’s bro!

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#42 posted 11-01-2012 03:01 AM

Another reason I like the Laguna 14”SUV is it takes a MASSIVE Re-Saw blade, and the guides, have you seen the guides…??? Pure awesomeness! The Re-Saw King alone is an achievement. The new laguna Glides are ceramic.

Full of powerful features and massive resawing capacity – fourteen inches – this European style bandsaw has an additional 1 HP Motor (to the LT14 3000 Series) to give you a strong 3HP Leeson motor for tough resawing. Plus we have added rack and pinion upper guide, a convenient foot brake with micro-switch and easy tilt system. If you are looking for the fully loaded Bandsaw, look no further – you have reached woodworking utopia!

Put this saw down and i am really surprised. Why would you? Sure, I still like the Grizzly and the NICE Rikon, but why would you put down a fabulous saw such as the 14”SUV.
I think all the bad responses I got on Laguna is because the majority of people are un-informed and reluctant to learn anything other than what they have heard and believe to be true.
I am proud to say I like Laguna!

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#43 posted 11-01-2012 03:20 AM

Steve,

I loved the Laguna saw at the cabinet shop I used to work at, I’m saving my pennies for the 14” SUV for my shop.

Buy a quality tool, and cry once. Buy a cheap tool and cry every-time you use it.

Not to say A Rikon or Grizzly is a cheap or inferior, I have no experience with either of these saws. But I want my 14” saw to be able to re-saw a 14” board, and actually have enough balls to do it.

Just my 2 cents

-- Lucas, "Someday woodworks will be my real job, until then, there's this http://www.melbrownfarmsupply.com"

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#44 posted 11-01-2012 03:29 AM

No shit huh?
A 14” Re-Saw right off the rip.
And a 3 hp Leeson Motor with massive re-saw capacity
I have a strong favor for this saw…I think it is well, above and beyond ANY 14” in it’s class.
The guides alone are to die for, c’mon
The internals and the open components are perfect.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#45 posted 11-01-2012 03:33 AM

I have no bone to pick with Laguna. I plan to buy a cabinet saw in the near-mid future and Laguna is on the list of contenders. However, I’m not sure I see a lot of buyer value with the 14”SUV. It has some nice features, but its still a $1500, 14” BS. I’m not convinced it would provide results that were as good or better than a $1000 18” machine.

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#46 posted 11-01-2012 04:00 AM

I hear ya.
I can get more, for less…but is it really more. Yes. NOT more Re-saw, or if, it’s comparable.
I could get a Bad-ass Rikon for $1600.
Or, the Best of Grizzly.
But, I see a unique technological advantage/fit & finish/build/Raw precision and overall tolerance related data from laguna.
I cannot believe they are simply liars. The machine remains magnificent.
I agree, and it’s a “spoil myself” type of purchase, because I could get such a larger machine for the $.
stuck(.)

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#47 posted 11-01-2012 04:40 AM

If it were me, I would spring for the Laguna and compensate by eating every other day. Not only is eating over rated, but you can kill two birds with one stone by getting the saw you really want and dieting (if you need it) at the same time. win, win.

Or you can go on on ebay; there’s a guy selling one now that looks pretty good. “http://www.ebay.com/itm/Laguna-LT14-SUV-Bandsaw-/271090504175?pt=LHDefaultDomain0&hash=item3f1e40d1ef

-- ok, is it cut once measure twice, cut twice measure once???? I know....I'll just keep cutting until it's long enough.

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#48 posted 11-01-2012 05:09 AM

Ha…hardy har har.
Laguna basher.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#49 posted 11-01-2012 05:27 AM

Steve, I’m sorry if you took it the wrong way. What I was trying to say (I guess it wasn’t as funny as I thought) that sacrificing a little now is well worth buying the best. I actually like the Laguna BS, a lot but I just picked up a Steel City 18” at an estate sale and wish I held out for the Laguna.

By the way, the ebay thing is legit. This guy is selling the LT14 3000 series with blades and mobility kit. Current bid is $760 and there 1 day, 9 hours left.

-- ok, is it cut once measure twice, cut twice measure once???? I know....I'll just keep cutting until it's long enough.

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#50 posted 11-01-2012 05:53 AM

Sounds like you REALLY want the Laguna. You should go for it.

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