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What's happening with Harbor Freigth?

by b2rtch
posted 624 days ago


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crashn

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#1 posted 624 days ago

like? which tools? I have not noticed any.

-- Crashn - the only thing I make more of than sawdust is mistakes

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b2rtch

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#2 posted 624 days ago

band saw, table saw, hinges, snow blower and more.
After ugly fight with is father one son now manages the company, I guess that he has different priorities and objectives.

-- Bert

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lumberjoe

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#3 posted 624 days ago

I think they may be updating some stuff. My local HF has a brand new bandsaw on display that looks EXACTLY like the older Grizzly 14” that is no longer on Grizzly webiste (it sold for about 425.00).

I don’t see it on the HF website yet though, just in-store

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dbhost

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#4 posted 624 days ago

There is a LOT of stuff at HF that is not on the web page. The 14” band saw like lumberjoe mentioned, the 6” jointer is still in store, and a few other items…

I have seen table saws listed before but they appear to be gone. Not sure I know anyone brave enough to buy a HF table saw, but then again… if it is another gem at a good price, why not?

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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lumberjoe

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#5 posted 624 days ago

For what it’s worth, when the jointer was on the website, it was listed as “in store purchase only”. I tried to order one from them because my store never has one. Even calling them they said it had to be purchased in store

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BinghamtonEd

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#6 posted 624 days ago

I seriously hope they don’t stop carrying these :

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 624 days ago

Would almost bet slow selling items, cost to manufacture, spare parts, & shipping, big factor in profit margins.

-- Bill

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Dan

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#8 posted 624 days ago

I stopped in my local HF today and I noticed a lot of new stuff that was not in there before. A lot of the measuring and marking tools were from a different place and some of the clamps were new. From what I saw they still had the same stuff it was just a different manufacture

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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rdjack21

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#9 posted 624 days ago

I was in my HF yesterday and noticed a bunch of new stuff. In particular updated quick clamps that one BinghamtonEd posted above was gone. The new one felt much better I may actually break down and get one to try it out. I really disliked the old one.

-- --- Richard Jackson

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b2rtch

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#10 posted 624 days ago

BinghamtonEd “I seriously hope they don’t stop carrying these”
Are you serious?
You cannot be serious
This is the only thing that HF carries that I call ” real piece of crap”.

-- Bert

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RussellAP

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#11 posted 624 days ago

I may have to go have a talk with the store manager, he’d know what’s going on. I got my BS DC and joiner from them. It worries me if they don’t carry Central Machine parts anymore. I love that brand and hate to see them loose it but more importantly who will pick it up? So far as I can tell online, HF is the only place to get it.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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BinghamtonEd

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#12 posted 623 days ago

Bert, I was messing around. I got some of those for Christmas, they suck. My father-in-law needed a couple spreaders, so I gave him those. He tried to give them back when he was done, and I told him they were his problem now.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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Tedstor

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#13 posted 623 days ago

I guess brand/product attrition is part of the “bargain price”?
Don’t get me wrong, I have my share of HF tools. I was a frequent shopper at one time. But as my tool purchases became fewer and further between, price is no longer the prime factor that it once was for me. That said, I tend to favor other brands/retailers.

Ed- you had me going for a minute there. Those “clamps” would easily make the top of any worst tool in the world list.

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Lee Barker

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#14 posted 623 days ago

I’ll cop to buying the Worst Tool. Two in fact. The first one broke the first time I used it.

I’m not sure where the other one went but I find I have a high tolerance for that particular item of ambiguity.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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Kreegan

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#15 posted 623 days ago

Yeah those clamps are just the worst. I have 2 36” versions. They are the dead last clamps I use in my shop, after all my other clamps, a couple of cinder blocks, scrap wood, etc. I have to believe that they went straight from design to production, without an ounce of testing.

Rich;)

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MrRon

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#16 posted 623 days ago

I don’t think HF is any different than say, Sears. Sears changes their models every year. Depends on where they can get their best deal. When Dewalt markets a tool, they cost more because they have to keep a spare parts inventory that cheaper tool companies don’t. Getting a spare part from one of these companies can be a hit-or-miss proposition. They may have it as long as they are still under contract with the supplier. Companies have contracts with suppliers to provide spares for a limited amount of time. This could be as short as one year or twenty years. Usually the length of warranty will be an indication.

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MarkTheFiddler

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#17 posted 623 days ago

Gents – Guess what? HF DID stop carrying those clamps in a manner of speaking. Notice the rectangular release button. That button is indicative of the self destructing clamp design. The newer version with the round button doesn’t self destruct after the third squeeze.

-- Thanks for all the lessons!

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RussellAP

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#18 posted 623 days ago

Those clamps still have no guts and the good F clamps are just as cheap. $2.99 for a 6”

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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MarkTheFiddler

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#19 posted 622 days ago

Gotta agree with you you there Russell.

-- Thanks for all the lessons!

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b2rtch

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#20 posted 622 days ago

BinghamtonEd, good news for you, HF still carry your favorite clamps.
I agree that HF bar clamps are excellent for the price. I also use their aluminum rails clamps which again are OK for the price.Several year ago my wife for Christ-mas bought expensive parallel clamps , I never yet used them.

-- Bert

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MarkTheFiddler

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#21 posted 621 days ago

Have any of you guys tried the straight edge clamp? It looked pretty flimsy to me but I have no foundation for comparison. I’d like to get one for some projects down the road.

-- Thanks for all the lessons!

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cutworm

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#22 posted 621 days ago

Richard and Ed,
I bought 2 of the new squeeze clamps today. I thought I would try them before buying more. I used them this afternoon and they did a good job. The tops touch first when squeezing – a good thing. I squeezed them as hard as I could trying to make them slip but the held fine. Mind you I’m not Hulk Hogan but the old ones wouldn’t mash your finger before they slipped.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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cutworm

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#23 posted 621 days ago

I’m bummed that Lowes no longer sells CMT blades.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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Purrmaster

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#24 posted 621 days ago

Those clamps are truly terrible. Though I have had good results from all of the other clamps I’ve bought from them. I do wish they had heavy duty bar clamps.

I can second that a lot of stuff isn’t listed on the website for some weird reason. The 6” jointer. I still see the large band saw at the store. I truly don’t understand why there isn’t a website listing for all in store items.

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Kreegan

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#25 posted 621 days ago

MarkTheFiddler, I have their straight edge clamp and it works quite well. I use it with my circular saw for cutting sheet goods. I wouldn’t use it for actual clamping, but as an edge guide it works very well.

Rich;)

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chuck1962

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#26 posted 621 days ago

I’m not sure about products not being carried, but I do know their shipping is awful. I ordered an item seven days ago it shipped the next day with an arrival date of 12 days later. Not sure where it shipped from but 12 days???? LOL I don’t live in Zimbabwe.
I do have a feeling that what they carry depends on close out deals and vendor pricing.

Ed I have to agree with you on the clamps. My neighbor let me borrow two for a big project I was building. If HF stopped making them I wouldn’t of been able to replace them. One broke right off the bat and the other wasn’t long to follow.

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cutworm

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#27 posted 621 days ago

Mark,
+1 on the edge guide. When clamping I don’t over due it. From what I read if you clamp too tight the round shaft gets cored. I only use it as an edge guide and just clamp snug. Anyone have feedback on their compressors? This one in particular

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-hp-10-gallon-125-psi-air-compressor-67708.html

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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BinghamtonEd

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#28 posted 620 days ago

I do love those F-style clamps that Russel posted a picture of.

Cutworm, check your local True Value or Ace. The small store down the road from me carries both Freud and CMT, along with some cheaper options.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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RussellAP

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#29 posted 620 days ago

BinghamtonEd. I think I spend about 20-30$ everytime I go to HF on those clamps. I even order them in the mail.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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BinghamtonEd

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#30 posted 620 days ago

Can’t beat’em for the price. I collect the 20% coupons and keep them in my truck. If I drive by HF and am not in a hurry (which I’m usually not), I swing in and pick up one or two.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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Mainiac Matt

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#31 posted 620 days ago

I’m pretty sure HF has no input into the product developemnt and designs of the products they sell. They’re simply an importer of whatever is available at various Asian manufacturers.

When those manufacturers make decisions about their product lines and discontinure items, HF will no longer be able to sell them. Without owning the design and tooling, they can’t simply switch vendors.

China has not been imune to the affects of this recesion and from what I’ve read, factories are shutting down left and right over there. In certain cities, where there is a concentration of manufacturing in one particular industry (like furniture making) they are seeing huge population declines, as literally hundreds of factories shudder their plants and their workers head home to the farm.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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b2rtch

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#32 posted 620 days ago

ssnvet, your explanation makes sense.
I was looking for drawer slides that they used to carry, then no longer carry them either.

-- Bert

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