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Grizzly Tools Current Sale vs Waiting

by WoodNDust
posted 577 days ago


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knotscott

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#1 posted 577 days ago

The “bird in hand” adage comes to mind. Many of the table saws are on sale now, and are already consider good values. You just never know where prices will be or what will be available in a few months. Some prices could be lower, some models could be out of stock or discontinued, some prices could be higher by the time new inventory comes in.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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HorizontalMike

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#2 posted 576 days ago

Ditto. @knotscott +10

FWIW, I waited on my Grizzly TS order so long that I changed the order to one that was “in stock”. Something to consider.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Handtooler

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#3 posted 576 days ago

I got my G0691 on a sale price and soon the new year’s prices jumped $260.00 over the original price and the sale price went off so the new price was nearly $800.00 more. “Wait and ya take ya chances”. Also if they are out of stock you may not get the sale price when they become available.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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WoodNDust

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#4 posted 576 days ago

Thank you very much knotscott. Like the ‘bird in the hand’ reference.

HorrizontalMike – I’ve read tons of your posts and remembered right away when seeing your avitar in this post about your experience waiting and changing your order. By the way, love your shop and the Harley is way cool.

Handtooler – I definitely don’t want to pay more. Good advice. Very grounding.

I’ll keep you guys posted. I’m looking at the G1023RL table saw and either the G0548Z or G0562ZP dust collector.

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Handtooler

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#5 posted 576 days ago

WoodnDust, How did you arrive at the difference between the G0690/691 v.s. the G1023RL? And, I think there’s one step more advanced than the RL so why not it? I got the G0703P dust collector and it’s completely satisfactory, using 110V and the 5” stepped down to 4” for saw and 12 1/4” 5 HP Planer. I’m sur you’ll be pleased with any selection you make.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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WoodNDust

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#6 posted 576 days ago

Handtooler – I sent an email to Grizzly and I got some advice from their technical staff to wade through the various features. I had been leaning toward the G1023RL anyway. This helped me to lean more in that direction. I had also been looking at G0562Z 3hp dust collector but it’s sold out and discontinued and replaced by the G0562ZP, which is made in China. (I’m not that keen on the Polar Bear series because it’s made in China. Don’t get me wrong, I realize a ton of stuff is made in China and sometimes we have no choice but to choose between several items that were all manufactured in China.) I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Taiwanese made Grizzly tools. Now it appears they’re moving production to China from Taiwan.

Also, there is the G1023RLW and the G1023RLX. The RLW has the router table. I’m thinking of getting the Grizzly router extension table like HorizontalMike did. As for the RLX, I prefer adding a router table instead.

I’m hoping to finalize my decision within a day and order. So here’s how it went.

Kyle of Technical Service at Grizzly sent me the following chart:

After receiving an email with the above chart, I sent an email asking the following questions:

Can you explain two comparison features between G0690 and G1023RL from the chart you sent? What is the difference between “Triple V Belt” and “Serpentine Drive Belt”? What is the difference between “Worm Gear and Trunnion” and “Gas Strut Assisted Leadscrew”? In each of these is one better than the other?

I got this response from Vince of Technical Service at Grizzly:

Thank you for your prompt reply.

The blade elevation of the G1023RL Series allows for less gearing to allow the riving knife to stay properly positioned with the blade. The less moving parts there are, the more reliable the machine is because there is a lesser chance of anything occurring to cause issues. The serpentine belt system allows for even and increased belt tension which prevents any remote chance of belt slippage.

In my opinion, the leadscrew with gas strut and serpentine belt are the engineering better choices for these machines. If I were choosing between these two series of table saws, I would purchase the G1023RL Series.

If we may be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. You are a valued customer, and we look forward to serving your future woodworking and metalworking needs.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 576 days ago

Grizzly has been shifting manufacturing to China for quite a while. I don’t believe it’s limited to just the Polar Bear series. The folks at Grizzly could tell you more.

It’s worth noting that the Leeson motor on the G0690 is also made in China AFAIK….or at least somewhere in east Asia. I’m sure it’s a very good motor, but it’s not made in the USA. I haven’t read any complaints about either motor.

It’s ironic, but the guts of the G0690 are more similar to the old G1023’s than the new G1023.

Old G1023SL trunnions:

G0690 trunnions:

G1023RL trunnions (new):

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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WoodNDust

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#8 posted 575 days ago

Well, Grizzly had the G0562Z dust collector tagged as discontinued as of yesterday. So, I sent Grizzly an email. Today they responded saying that they had a G0562Z held for me at $80 less than the previous sale price. So, I look on the Grizzly site and see they’ve brought the G0562Z back at the better sale price. Grizzly customer service is great but they sure like to shake things up a little.

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WoodNDust

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#9 posted 569 days ago

Well, I didn’t wait too long. I ordered some tools this past Monday and they arrived yesterday and today. G1023 RL table saw, G0562Z dust collector, G9956 ambient air cleaner, and T10222 router table extension. I also grabbed a bunch of Grizzly t-shirts. Now I have to get them set up.

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knotscott

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#10 posted 569 days ago

Congrats on the new goodies….please post some pics too!

Did you see that Grizzly is now offering free shipping on remaining shop tool inventory thru the end of the year?

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;-)

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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HorizontalMike

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#11 posted 569 days ago

PICTURES! I want pictures! Even if they are just boxes in the garage, I want pictures!

8-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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knotscott

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#12 posted 568 days ago

P.S: For those who didn’t see the “wink”, I am kidding about the free shipping…just bustin on ya!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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WoodNDust

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#13 posted 568 days ago

Mike – here you go buddy!! Funny thing is that Grizzly shipped the same day. I was thinking that everything would ship within a few days and I’d get it all after the weekend, giving me time to organize my garage. Well, as you can see I didn’t have time for it. Grizzly was just too darn fast! Can you believe it? I’m saying that Grizzly was too efficient.

knotscott – wooooo!! You almost had me pulling out a couple extra credit cards. Free shipping through the end of the year?? I might’ve grabbed two second jobs to afford it and jacked up the house to install a sub-basement shop to have the room. LOL.

Hey. Wait a minute. Do you work for Grizzly? Did you let the next Grizzly discount slip out a little too early???

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HorizontalMike

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#14 posted 568 days ago

YYYEEEEE Haaaww!

Drooling big time! I’ll be right over! I know for a fact that it will fit!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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WoodNDust

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#15 posted 568 days ago

Mike – How did you get that 500# of saw off the truck again?

Hopefully I’ll have some boxes uncrated by the end of the weekend. Meanwhile here’s a peek at the ambient air cleaner:

A little more:

Almost there:

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HorizontalMike

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#16 posted 568 days ago

I picked up a one-ton hoist at HF for ~$40 and hung it from the center I-beam in my metal building shop. Works like a champ.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Tennessee

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#17 posted 568 days ago

Personally, I’d take a worm gear and trunions over a gas strut and leadscrew anyday. Never saw a gas strut that didn’t fail sooner or later, and the dust will be hard on the little seal where the shaft comes out of that gas strut. On the other hand, a serpentine belt should very much be more distributive of the available power. You cannot predict the stretch rate of three V belts working together. Even Harley Davidson uses flat belts on their final drives, although they are cog style flat belts.
So kind of a mixed bag there.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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WoodNDust

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#18 posted 567 days ago

Mike – I’ll just have to run over to my local HF to check that out. I have an I beam in my garage too. From where on the saw did you life, the table top?

Tennessee – I’m not too familiar with the differences of these two mechanisms. I was leaning toward the G1023RL anyway, and then got some recommendations from Grizzly Technical Services. We’ll see once I unpack and get things set-up. I hope I’m happy with it, which is what I expect.

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HorizontalMike

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#19 posted 566 days ago

Below, you can see the TS on its shipping pallet. I would remove the wings (see box on top of TS) and the accessories box(s) on the side of the pallet before picking the entire pallet with saw using nylon tie straps that you saw tying down the TS in the truck.

What I did—- I basically ran two tie straps under the pallet while it was in the truck (even before opening the box) and looped them over head to the hoist, lift the pallet a couple of inches and pulled the truck out of the way. Then I lowered the hoist while steadying the load with one hand. My only caution would to be sure that the straps coming from the pallet are holding/restraining ALL four sides as you lift. That way it will not tilt and fall.

Oh yeah, you will also need to pick up an I-Beam Clamp to hang the hoist from. This will cost you as much as the hoist, but you do need this as well. I had to struggle to get the hoist hook over the “hanging bolt” of the clamp, but once on, you will never need to remove it.

FWIW, I had first ordered BOTH online, but UPS beat up the hoist and destroyed it completely, so I ended up at HF for the hoist. Total cost between the two items about $100, but I figured that I saved on shipping costs for the TS by picking it up at the “terminal” instead of lift-gate service.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Handtooler

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#20 posted 566 days ago

I’m confused! I thought you had opted for, and received the G1023RL; but you obviously received the G0690.

You’ll certainly be pleased, I’m sure. I own the G0691 and it’s quite a jump from my Shop Smith Model V.

Keep the set-up pictures coming.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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HorizontalMike

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#21 posted 566 days ago

Come on Russell, @WoodNDust did take possession of a G1023RL TS. I was just illustrating how to use a 1-ton hoist to “one-man-it” off of the truck and into the garage. Those last images were mine. 8-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Handtooler

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#22 posted 566 days ago

Thanks Mike, See I said I was confused. But it’s authorized after one reaches the age of 70. And BTW those are great pictures; and you know your ‘Riggin n diggin’, super lesson. My what a beautiful spacious shop building you have.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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WoodNDust

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#23 posted 566 days ago

HorizontalMike – thanks for the explanation of how you handled your situation. When you lifted your TS onto your mobile base, did you use your hoist or have a couple of extra hands to just lift it?

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HorizontalMike

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#24 posted 566 days ago

I put half the mobile base together (1-side + 2 corners) and tilted the wingless base of the TS and slid it under, and took a pry bar and tilted up the other side and slid the other half under the TS.On that second “tilt” you have to make sure the joiner bars are inserted to join both sides. Just keep the bolts loose enough so they slide. Once up on the roller stand then you can snug the sides together and start tightening the retaining bolts.

To be truthful, without the wings, it is rather easy to tilt the TS to do the above. Just wait to put the wings and rails on LAST.

UPDATE: I guess you could also use the hoist to lift just one side while you finaggle with the mobile base. That might save some pinched fingers

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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WoodNDust

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#25 posted 566 days ago

Cheers, Mike! I’ll give that try. By the way, I keep running into pictures of your TS on LJ. The more I see them, the more I like it!....A lot!!

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HorizontalMike

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#26 posted 566 days ago

Yep, I be proud of it for sure 8-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."


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