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Can anyone name this wood?

by shipwright
posted 09-03-2012 09:57 PM


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rance

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#1 posted 09-03-2012 10:07 PM

Cherry Burl?

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Karson

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#2 posted 09-03-2012 10:10 PM

Looks a little like Madrone Burl but ti doesn’t have all of the graining. and it looks a little browner than Madrone.

It kind of has the look of the wood to make violin bows out of pernambuco

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Dallas

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#3 posted 09-03-2012 10:12 PM

I’ll name it! I’ll name it!

Harold!

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#4 posted 09-03-2012 10:13 PM

No, but I want some! Love the color.

-- Paul--- Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. — Scott Adams

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#5 posted 09-03-2012 10:20 PM

Bloodwood.?.

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#6 posted 09-03-2012 10:24 PM

My guess is mahogany, but not sure.

AJ

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#7 posted 09-03-2012 10:51 PM

It looks like some mahogany that I have, but your hint eliminates that choice. Perhaps it is that newly discovered “brunus fiberglassius” recently discovered on Victoria Island. BC. The elusive “fiberglass tree” that Shipwright has been mentioning and has finally found. . . . Ok, I’ll wait for the real answer.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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#8 posted 09-03-2012 11:12 PM

Well Saw4fun beat me to it…but I thought it was bloodwood. Probably not that easy tho, huh?

-- gbear, Carmichael, CA

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#9 posted 09-03-2012 11:42 PM

I may not be seeing the picture right, because it looks like leather to me.
maybe pink ivory?

-- Junior -Quality is never an accident-it is the reward for the effort involved.

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OnlyJustME

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#10 posted 09-03-2012 11:59 PM

how long do we have to wait for the answer?

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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#11 posted 09-04-2012 12:05 AM

OK, another clue: only available in REALLY thin veneer.
and another, It’s free, not sold anywhere.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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rance

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#12 posted 09-04-2012 12:16 AM

Now you’ve really got me reeling. And with my favorite word too… FREE. :)

I was gonna guess some kind of paper, but you can buy that. :(

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#13 posted 09-04-2012 12:24 AM

Madrone seems possible as Karson said, I’ve seen flitches of Madrone that look like that recently at one of my veneer provider’s online inventory, though they are 1/42” which in my book is not “very thin veneer” but standard veneer.

Not bloodwood. Neither pernambuco nor mahogany because the grain here is so thin and these can be worked in solid form. I never worked with pink ivory yet so I can’t say.

If it’s only available in very thin veneer, it’s go to be sh!tty as hell to work with in its solid form.

If it’s not Madrone, moar hintz please Paul?

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#14 posted 09-04-2012 12:25 AM

Dammit, free and not sold anywhere? Holy sh!t I get it: is it some sort of very thin bark?

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#15 posted 09-04-2012 12:28 AM

Cambium of some specie which bark is easy to peel. That’s my final answer.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#16 posted 09-04-2012 12:33 AM

OK, Thomas I’m going to give it to you. You got madrone and you got thin bark.
It is the very thin bark that peels off madrone (we call it arbutus in Canada) and litters my yard every fall.
I’ve always wanted to try to veneer with it but it is so fragile.
This is a bit I hammer veneered this year. Any larger would be difficult as it curls up so quickly and becomes very brittle. I may try peeling some right off the tree….. No, that’s not the hammer I veneered it with. It’s just there for scale.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#17 posted 09-04-2012 12:37 AM

Yay! \o/

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#18 posted 09-04-2012 12:43 AM

So, did you try to directly glue it to a thin base by means of spray adhesive and a clothes iron with a cloth in between? That’s how I laminate my burl veners (after drying them with the iron between two white fabric layers). First I pre-glue the substrate and let it dry, then place the veneer and reactivate the glue with ironing.
Works good for me and ironically these are the only times at which my clothes iron sees the light.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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#19 posted 09-04-2012 12:46 AM

I’ve never measured before but this got me curious. I just went out and picked up the piece below. It varies from 7 to 9 thousandths of an inch thick. I guess you don’t sand much.

Thomas, no I just glued it on the piece of MDF with hot hide glue and a veneer hammer, just like regular veneer.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#20 posted 09-04-2012 12:54 AM

Well I picked the correct species. I didn’t just selected the correct version of Madrone.

Thanks for the information.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#21 posted 09-04-2012 01:21 AM

Paperthin for sure. I think you can use veneer softeners to help laminate that thin bark, Paul. I saw several brands for sale but never actually found any need for them with the flitches I worked with so far. This might be an interesting opportunity to check them out.

I think this could also work with thin River Birch bark, for an interesting effect. Maybe even combining both. I would definately try doing some primitive marquetry with that stuff myself just for the hell of it.
The guys over in Russia make small kitchen items with Birch’s thick autumn bark, they’re nice, lightweight, sustainable, local, and quite tough. I gave Mom such a bread basket years ago and it’s still holding shape and serving well.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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Boxguy

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#22 posted 09-04-2012 01:29 AM

Paul, until you gave the second hint I thought it was boiled Swiss Pear, because of the fine grain and pinkish color.

-- Big Al in IN

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#23 posted 09-04-2012 01:37 AM

Al, You missed it Thomas already guessed it, close enough, arbutus bark.

Thomas, I have two bottles of spray veneer softener but I’ve never needed it.
Between plain water and the use of heated cauls, there’s nothing you can’t flatten quickly and easily.
I haven’t actually messed around with it much. This was a first try and I was using bark I picked up off the ground. It would be easier to work with I’m sure right off the tree. Maybe I’ll do a little more “research”.

Thanks for the comments.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#24 posted 09-04-2012 05:50 AM

nice stuff if you can get it to work

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#25 posted 09-04-2012 02:51 PM

Wow, I haven’t seen that in ages and ages ! This is waaaay to easy ! It got away back in 94 I believe ! It is of COURSE ‘MY’ wood ! ...Don’t know how it got skinnied up into “Free” veneers, but that’s what it deserves for running off like that. You don’t have to send it back to me…I am too mad at it for running off in the first place ! Use it up and enjoy…..my gift to you ! Not worth the paper it’s become….. (;-{))

-- If it smells good, eat it ! The pig caught under the fence is the one doing all thesquealing

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#26 posted 09-04-2012 03:34 PM

Is the bark of a tree technically a real wood? Just curious since I know a leaf is not considered wood, so where is the breakoff point?

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#27 posted 09-04-2012 07:01 PM

The structure of the whole thing, and the shape of the cells.

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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