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New to Shellac: Spray vs Brush

by Nighttripper
posted 08-27-2012 03:04 PM


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Bill White

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#1 posted 08-27-2012 03:07 PM

I’ve done both brush and spray, and find that spraying (for me) is easier. Practice first.
Bill

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 08-27-2012 03:10 PM

Did you consider padding? On pieces that don’t have a lot of details (like moldings, etc.) it may be the easiest. I can spray shellac, and I can pad it (and french polish…which is padding with 5X the work). But put a brush and jar of shellac in my hand and I can ruin a project faster than with any other finish. So, brush if you want…but be sure to practice (a lot) on scraps before you start on your Tea Box. BTW, if you choose to brush, dedicate one to shellac service, adn don’t bother cleaning it after use. Shellac only turns hard, so before the next use put the brush in some DNA for maybe 15 minutes and VIOLA, you are ready to go. (I’m pretty sure there is suppose to be an accent mark in that word somewhere).

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a1Jim

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#3 posted 08-27-2012 03:16 PM

I like spraying shellac. It takes some practice. If you have a spray gun you can practice by spray water first on some cardboard. Shellac does come in a rattle can. Make sure you use dewaxed shellac that way if you decide to put another finish over it.

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Nighttripper

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#4 posted 08-27-2012 03:25 PM

Thanks for the fast responses guys….I guess the verdict is in….spraying it is.

Now just have to hope for good temp/humidity next weekend here in NJ. I really hope to have some great pics to post when finished.

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Earlextech

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#5 posted 08-27-2012 03:36 PM

Spray it! Obviously.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"!

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Mainiac Matt

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#6 posted 08-27-2012 03:38 PM

Either way you go, just don’t get your coffee cans mixed up and use water to “clean up” your equipment…

or you’ll get a first hand introduction to the great white gum monster.

Don’t ask me how I know this.

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Loren

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#7 posted 08-27-2012 05:05 PM

I would brush or pad it on. Spraying is messy and wastes
finish. If you are already experienced with spray equipment
that could influence your choice though.

Shellac is forgiving actually. French polishing where the
shellac is compressed with friction and pressure using
oil as a lubricant in later coats is a challenging technique
to learn, but you don’t have to do a french polish to
get excellent results with shellac. You can just brush
or wipe it on, sand lightly between coats, and build it
up like most other film finishes.

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NiteWalker

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#8 posted 08-27-2012 05:10 PM

Spray on most projects; wipe on smaller ones.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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lumberjoe

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#9 posted 08-27-2012 05:17 PM

I’m with Loren on this one. I think shellac is one of the most forgiving finishes. Wipe or brush it on and and sand lightly while building it up. I am pretty good with an HVLP gun but try to avoid spraying finish. It makes way too much of a mess.

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Nighttripper

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#10 posted 08-27-2012 06:45 PM

In terms of appearance only (Sheen, Depth, Clarity), and not Protection/Durability or Speed, do you all think that shellac is worth it relative to the ease of say a GF Arm R Seal ??

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pintodeluxe

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#11 posted 08-27-2012 07:12 PM

A really bad spray gun is better than a really good brush.

Get a Woodriver gravity-feed HVLP and spend a Saturday learning to spray. You won’t regret it.
The gun costs $30.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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jmos

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#12 posted 08-27-2012 07:20 PM

I’ve had good luck brushing and padding shellac. My shop is in the basement so I really don’t have the option to spray. If I did, I would probably try it, but brushing is a lot less mess and waste.

I found the Gramercy shellac brush work great http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/CGT/item/GT-SHEBRU.XX/Gramercy_Tools_Finishing_Brushes_for_Shellac_and_Lacquer

I like the fact you can clean up with ammonia too.

-- John

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dhazelton

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#13 posted 08-27-2012 07:24 PM

Brush. Do you want the piece to look handcrafted or like it came from a factory? Do three coats and when done rub with 0000 steel wool and use pastewax. Shellac dries in minutes depending on how old it is and the humdity, so you can be done in a couple of hours, including the drying time. Clean you brush in alcohol when done.

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lumberjoe

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#14 posted 08-27-2012 08:17 PM

Nighttripper, I actually get better results brushing shellac than I get with Arm-R-Seal. Me and polyurethane don’t get along well though. For things that get handled a lot, like a box, I hate using poly. It makes the piece feel like plastic to me, not wood. I would use some shellac then maybe spray a coat of lacquer on after, or just simply do what dhazelton said. I generally rub out my finishes with wax applied with 0000 steel wool.

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gfadvm

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#15 posted 08-28-2012 02:04 AM

I always brush my shellac and it results in a great finish, easy to apply, dries fast providing you follow a few rules: I dilute my Zinsser Bullseye shellac 1:1 with denatured alcohol, use a good quality brush, DO NOT OVERBRUSH, sand between coats with 220-400 grit. I use Ammonia cleaner to clean my brushes (Much cheaper than DNA and reusable almost indefinately)

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Alongiron

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#16 posted 08-28-2012 02:57 AM

I use shellac on all my projects using a $0.49 foam brush from the hardware store. Brush on 2 light coats followed by a light sanding with 1000 grit sandpaper. Apply 1 more coat using the same sandpaper you just used; which makes it like 1500 grit….1 or 2 coats of paste wax and you have a beautiful smooth finish for many years to come.

-- Measure twice and cut once.....

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shipwright

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#17 posted 08-28-2012 04:59 AM

Learn to french polish. You won’t regret it. The results will blow you away.
It’s not that hard but you can’t learn it from reading about it, you have to be shown.
Enter youtube. There are some great videos that do a very good job of explaining and showing the process.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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Nighttripper

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#18 posted 08-28-2012 12:50 PM

Thanks Everyone for the replies!

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Ironman50

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#19 posted 08-28-2012 02:02 PM

I am comfortable with spraying since Shellac dries up quickly.

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