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Quit Smoking, need some tips!

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#1 posted 730 days ago

In my experience … dont reach for the Skoal, Copenhagen, or Grizzly.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#2 posted 730 days ago

Yuck. I’ve never done any of that and have no desire to. My problem is that i need something “to do”. Smoking a cigarette has a purpose. There is a definite beginning, and a definite end. Some have suggested candy or gum, but it’s just not as definitive. I don’t crave the nicotine, just some sort of break with a purpose.

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#3 posted 730 days ago

Yeah I have had two stents put in my heart because of smoking, I can remember the last cigarette I had right before I went to the hospital. I quit cold turkey and never looked back, I don’t crave them at all, as a matter of fact I can’t even tolerate the smell, it grosses me out. I would say you need to mentally psych your self in to believing it’s bad and a disgusting habit or you will never get past it. I did and I am a much better person for it. I hope everyone that wants to quit can successfully do it. you will not regret this ever.

-- Steve - Wasilla, Alaska

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#4 posted 730 days ago

Ohh i know what ya mean … and i dont think a handful of cherrios is gonna cut it. Id say have a drink but that seems counterproductive lol. Maybe a cup of coffee?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#5 posted 730 days ago

Steve, my dad just had stents put in. He quit smoking 30 years ago, but still did a lot of damage to his health. That was really my motivating factor. I don’t ever want to start smoking again. It’s only been 2 weeks and I already feel soo much better. I never realized how bad I felt in the first place. The difference is amazing.

Chris, that’s not a bad idea, but that is also something I want to cut back a bit on. As it is I generally drink 6 to 8 cups of coffee a day, but I generally work 12 to 16 hours out of the day. I deal with a lot of overseas stuff so my work day is broken up into very early mornings with a break in the afternoon, followed by very late nights

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#6 posted 730 days ago

I quit smoking 6 years ago. The biggest problem I had was trying to keep my hands busy since I no longer held cigarettes. What ended up taking place from holding a cigarette is pulling out whiskers. It was something to keep my hands busy. To this day I still do it though not as often. I have done it so much that I end up with bald spots and have to shave and let it all grow out again.

That being said I am not sure how you can get over that. I am glad you quit smoking. I once heard a lady being interviewed about caring for her husband who was/is a smoker and can’t get around do to breathing problems. She said she loves her husband and will care for him till he dies. But she also said he was a very selfish man. They worked their entire lives and saved up so they could travel together when they get older. She asked him several times to quit smoking and he refused. Now she is retired, they can’t travel and she hates the fact that because he was so selfish, she now has to stay at home and care for her husband because he can’t walk to the kitchen and back without running out of breath.

-- Your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be free from you.

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#7 posted 730 days ago

It sucks that we all have our vices. But i can see why you post so much, i guess a pot of coffee a day would do that to me too ;).

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#8 posted 730 days ago

wow americanwoodworker that is just awful. It’s such a horrible thing smoking it destroy’s lives in so many ways.

-- Steve - Wasilla, Alaska

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#9 posted 730 days ago

Chris, I also sit in front of a computer ALL DAY (literally) and 40% of that time is just waiting for something to finish running or break. I am done with my actual work day by 8am in most cases after starting around 3am, then I pick up again about 6PM. That is why I generally post a lot in the afternoon/early evening.

Katdaddy – no thanks. For some reason I was never into the green stuff even tough all my friends were. I’m not even a big drinker. I have a beer every now and then but can count on one hand the amount of times I have been drunk since I was of legal drinking age. Also when you really want to quit, you’ll know it. I’ve quit a few times before also, but this time is different. I honestly have no desire to start smoking again, and second hand smoke from other people turns my stomach now. Previously it would make me REALLY want a cigarette.

americanwoodworker – you nailed it!! THAT is my problem – idle hands. I don’t want a cigarette at all. I just want something for my hands to do

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#10 posted 730 days ago

Replace a bad habit with a good one – instead of reaching for a cigarette – get in some form of mild exercise. Dribbling a ball, bouncing a shuttlecock, playing with the dog, teasing the cat – just get moving.

-- Raymond, Charlotte, NC -------- Demonstrate the difference!

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#11 posted 730 days ago

I quit almost 12 years ago, so I know exactly what you are talking about.

What I found is that it was tough for about 3 months. But, after that, I no longer felt the need to “do” something when I took a break. As long as you are thinking in that “reward” mode, you will continue to be uncomfortable. The good news is that this will pass. Eventually, you will learn to take a break when you need one, rather than as a scheduled reward. (You’ll also find you need fewer breaks once your mind and body are retrained.)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Mainiac Matt

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#12 posted 730 days ago

carry a pen around and learn to twirl it like a baton around your fingers….. you can pour your nervous energy into programing a physical dexterity into muscle memory.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#13 posted 730 days ago

Well lumberjoe, maybe you can grow a beard! LOL Just kidding.

-- Your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be free from you.

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lumberjoe

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#14 posted 730 days ago

Charlie, that is the hardest part. One of the main reasons I took up smoking was everyone I work with smoked. The mentality around smoke breaks is pretty messed up, but fairly ingrained. This is how the conversation normally goes:

Employee – Time for a smoke break”
Boss – “good idea, I need a cigarette too”
This is acceptable once an hour. On the other token:

Employee- “I am going to get some fresh air for about 10 minutes”
Boss – “Uhh, didn’t you just get back from lunch? How many breaks do you need?”

I had a pretty good idea this morning for shop time. I’ve always wanted to learn hand cut dovetails. I think I will use that for my “reward time”. Rather than grab a smoke, I’ll cut a dovetail. Also that rob crossman dovetail saw costs about as much as 2 weeks of cigarettes

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#15 posted 730 days ago

americanwoodworker – I’ve had one for about 5 years. I keep it neat though. More “long stubble” than beard

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#16 posted 730 days ago

I smoked cigarettes for ~20 years, then a pipe for ~20 more.
Started riding a bicycle for fun and exercise about 5 years ago.
I remember one day on a 30 mile ride, climbing a rough hill, I was nearly burned out about 3/4 the way up.
I pulled over and started to walk, pushing my bike.

A friends wife came back down to see if I was ok. Then some kids that were riding with us came down and checked on me, then scooted back up to the top. As I finally struggled to the crest and started down the other side I remember feeling like such a wuss. A wuss with no breath and a busting headache.

I decided right then and there that I had smoked for my last time just before that ride.
I quit and stayed quit.
When ever I think I want a smoke, I just think about that humiliating bike ride and how much I hurt that day.
The craving usually goes away.

I always drank a lot of coffee, and probably drink more than I used to since I quit tobacco.
But I try to not let anything be a crutch or reward. Instead, remembering pain and misery and associating that with smoking works for me.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#17 posted 730 days ago

I’ve been smoke free for nearly 7 years. As Charlie said, it will pass but it takes some time. I replaced my smoking habit with bike riding – the high from a strenuous ride is so much better than a nicotine jolt. Of course it takes much longer to get there…

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#18 posted 730 days ago

I don’t know if you are a reader…maybe those break times could be used to read a book a few pages at a time…the reward is there too: waiting to get back to the story to see where it’s going, etc….

just an idea

-- Joe - - - something witty should go here - - -

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#19 posted 730 days ago

I quit 15 years ago. I know you hate to hear this but only time will change your thought processes. When I quit even after the physical addiction was past the mental programming was still there. Take it day by day and the moments that you normally would smoke will get further and further in distant memory. My trick was to think about all the wasted effort if I smoked again. The longer you go without smoking the easier it will be mentally. Good luck.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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#20 posted 730 days ago

I am an avid reader. My wife has a good system because she is going though it also. She uses facebook and pintrest as her “reward”. She only checks them when she wants a “reward cigarette”. It gives her something to do and something to look forward to. Unfortunately as I mentioned, I am chained to a computer most of the day.

Michael, I’m with you on the fitness. I am a runner and I thought I was in OK shape. I can do a 5k in about 26 minutes. While not competitive, it’s pretty damned good for an amateur and i always finish pretty close to the leaders. Anything under 30 minutes is respectable. Even after only 2 weeks (I run daily) I am finding my “wall” to be a lot further out than it used to be.

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#21 posted 730 days ago

Let’s see… you need something to do that replaces the seven or so minutes it took to smoke a cigarette. Hmm? You married or have a girl friend?

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#22 posted 730 days ago

Haha, muleskinner! I am indeed married, but what would I do for the other 6 minutes and 45 seconds?

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#23 posted 730 days ago

Didn’t you know? The other 6 minutes and 45 seconds are for her.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#24 posted 730 days ago

It’s her fault anyway. She is a solid 9 to 9.5. If she could ugly herself up a bit or gain 20 lbs, maybe that 15 seconds could turn into a solid 7 minutes. I am an ugly toll in comparison. I guess a sense of humor really does go a long way in that respect.

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#25 posted 730 days ago

I don’t smoke but I have a hard time sitting still for too long. I’m chained to a computer as well (software developer) and every now and then I’ll go for a walk to clear my head. My office is a suite in a larger office building so I’ll wander the halls, outside my office, for about 5 minutes and that’s enough to get my mind back into it. If I don’t feel like walking I’ll just go online, usually here, and that helps too.

Good luck with the cigarettes!

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#26 posted 730 days ago

Compiling code is my #1 reason for a smoke break now. I can’t do much while that is going on and it doesn’t need any of my attention (until I have to run a debug on all my context errors when it spits out exceptions) After hours of typing there is nothing better than getting up for a break while the text flies by on the screen.

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#27 posted 730 days ago

That reminds me of this t-shirt..

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#28 posted 730 days ago

I have that coffee cup

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#29 posted 730 days ago

Rick quit smoking 6 months ago “cold turkey”. His little saving strategy were some espresso chocolates.

re: reward …. maybe you could switch it around. “I’m going to take a break for five minutes and when I’m done I’m going to reward myself by spending some time doing woodworking” :)
or.. spend time with your wife, that strategy sounds like a good one as well. :D

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#30 posted 730 days ago

Maybe sharpen a chisel or a plane iron? Depending on your hand tool inventory you’d have some really sharp tools in short order!

-- John, BC, Canada

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#31 posted 730 days ago

Like John said…. sharpen a chisel or a plane iron…. then stab yourself with it every time you want to smoke. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#32 posted 730 days ago

My hand tool inventory is pathetic. I have a really nice set of chisels, a 10$ harbor freight plane, and that is it. I am a power tool kind of guy. Also I’m not sure if it is a weird side effect, or if smoking curbs your appetite, but I am HUNGRY all the time. I don’t mean I need a little snack, I am absolutely starving most of the day.

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#33 posted 730 days ago

Debbie, reverse psychology, I like it! Maybe I will give that a shot

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#34 posted 730 days ago

what would I do for the other 6 minutes and 45 seconds?

Well I usually have a smoke.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#35 posted 730 days ago

I quit cold turkey 26 May 1989, from 3 packs a day. That first week I would have gladly whooped anybody for a cigarette. Was in the hospital on my second hernia repair, had three cigs, went out to the quad [after 10 minutes of shuffling down the hallway] and smoked all three. The closest cig was three blocks away – no way! Quit right then. Haven’t had an urge since, fact is – I can’t stand the smell.

-- BELT SANDER: Used for making rectangular gouges in wood.

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#36 posted 730 days ago

Rosebudjim, even after 15 years I still enjoy the smell of cigarette smoke. I used to go on cigarette breaks with my folks, but not smoke. Nowadays I just walk slowly by an outdoor smoking area. Not many left in CA.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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#37 posted 730 days ago

had a heart attack a year ago, wound up with a quad bypass. Came home last August to find every one of my pipes had been thrown out! Nothing to smoke with. Went Cold turkey right then and there. Craving? i just grab a Starlight Mint, usually a Peppermint. Worked for me…..

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#38 posted 730 days ago

play with a calculator. worked for me.

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#39 posted 729 days ago

You could try flavored toothpicks AKA chewing sticks. There’s the old school hot cinnamon and nowadays you can get them in several flavors like mint, green tea and I’ve even seen bacon flavor. They can curb appetite, give your hand/mouth something to do and they last much longer than a smoke. While you’re at it, you could use your woodworking skills to make a dispenser for them. Mine dispenses toothpicks and gum.

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#40 posted 729 days ago

wow, that’s awesome!

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#41 posted 729 days ago

Well LumberJoe, there you are at the computer… fire up a game of freecell or spider solitaire and throw some cards around while you wait. Go on a site like this (there are zillions to choose from) where people talk about things and put in your two cents worth. Scan Craigslists “free” and “wanted” lists. Find whatever it is that will satisfy your need and use it. Love the fact you dumped smoking, I’ve seen enough of the damages too and could speak of them but that’s not what you’re looking for here. You’ve done the hard part, just keep on with this step. BEST of luck!

-- Power tools put us ahead of the monkeys

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#42 posted 729 days ago

My advise, find someone you know that has pancreatic cancer and see what it does to them.

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#43 posted 729 days ago

Just checking in and hoping your still smoke free!

-- Steve - Wasilla, Alaska

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#44 posted 729 days ago

First of all, I commend you greatly for quitting. As for suggestions, do as others have suggested, do something with your hands. Maybe juggling? Seriously. I’ve always wanted to be able to do that to show off in front of others. Try it. :)

Or better yet, practice hand-cut dovetails.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#45 posted 729 days ago

The advice I try to give to all newly quitters, is remember that smoking is an addiction. All those thought processes that we go through while learning to go without the nicotine, are learned behaviors from our addiction. Just the brains way of trying to get it’s dose of nicotine. My suggestion for those times in front of the computer when you get to thinking about cigarettes is to use that time doing research on the perils of smoking. It hardens the will against the impulses and will give you something constructive to share with the person who is only thinking about it.

It took me five years to get to the point where I could talk about smoking without that little tingling sensation in the back of my head. The tingling that I would get when I was a smoker and had gone over twenty hours since my last dose.
It is a tough addiction to break but, you can do it. The sooner you do it the better. I can’t offer you anything more than my words of encouragement, but I hope that you get through this and come out an ex-smoker. The one thing that comes to mind when I offer encouragement is that smoking kills 443,000 people a year in the US. Every day millions of people use the products I make, and if even a hundredth of that number died every year from my product we would not be in business.

-- Mel,

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#46 posted 728 days ago

A pack of cigs today costs around $5.00 So a pack a day would costs you 5 bucks. In a week that would be 35 bucks. One month would equal $420.

THE HISTORICAL RATE OF RETURN FOR THE STOCK MARKET SINCE 1900 IS 10.4% So lets do some math….
If you invested a $5.00 dollar a day habit for 30 years at 10.4% you would end up with…... $1,043,326.82.

There you go. Your habit has been keeping you from being a millionaire. Just a little perspective. I have had people tell me I was stupid for investing in the stock market because I could lose everything. Well 100 years of the stock market history has payed out an average of 10.4%. Tobacco pays out nothing…ever…. and in fact costs you more in health related issues. So which has the better odds?

Think I will go with a hundred years of history myself.

Also if you have an Iphone or other not so smart phone you can download stop smoking apps. A coworker showed me and it is interesting.

-- Your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be free from you.

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#47 posted 728 days ago

You have already done the hardest part of quitting. YOU decided to quit. I quit chewing probably 15 times before I decided I was ready to quit. Once I did I quit cold turkey. The worst time for me was when I was on my scroll saw, because I always chewed when I cut. I ate sunflower seeds for awhile, which helped, and eventually just got over the need to do something. Haven’t chewed since Dec 1996. I know this doesn’t give you anything to do, but just keep telling yourself that you WILL NOT start back. You should be proud of yourself!!!! It’s the only time I’ve been proud of myself for being a “quitter”!

-- Paul, North Dakota, USAF Ret.

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#48 posted 728 days ago

americanwoodworker, where do you live? A pack of smokes here costs me almost 9 bucks. I have an Android phone and I do have the app. It’s pretty cool. Thanks a TON everyone for the encouragement. Paul, That is exactly how I feel. I have “quit” before but those were half hearted attempts because I Thought I should quit, but didn’t really want to. I really do not want to smoke anymore now.
Unfortunately I had to make a few sacrifices. I’m going to have to take a shop vacation for a while. Again like Paul, woodworking and tobacco use went hand in hand for me. My wife and I NEVER smoked in the house or cars, so only when outside or in the garage. When I am out in the shop, I find that is really the only time I get bad cravings. I’m going to let a few weeks pass and see how it goes.

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#49 posted 728 days ago

9 BUCKS!? Wow! I thought I seen a no name brand for 5 bucks the other day.

By the way, Either all you guys are being nice or you missed my mistake. 5 bucks a day for one month is around 140 not 420. Color me stupid. LOL!

So 140 per month at 10.4% would be around $350,000.

At 9 per day that would be around 252 per month @ 10.4% would be around $625,000 in 30 years.

Still allot better than smoking it up! But do your own math, as you can see I suck at it. Thats why my boards are always to short even after I cut it twice. ;)

-- Your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be free from you.

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#50 posted 728 days ago

Actually, I think your calculator has completely blown a fuse. $5 per day works out to $152 per month. Where did you come up with $140?

(I’m a liberal arts major, by the way, so math is not my thing.) :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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