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I've created a monster

by lumberjoe
posted 07-30-2012 12:00 PM


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b2rtch

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#1 posted 07-30-2012 12:24 PM

Joe,
You are in trouble, soon she will kick you out of your shop.
You can plan on moving in her sawing room ( if the has one)

-- Bert

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helluvawreck

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#2 posted 07-30-2012 12:34 PM

Joe, are you going to give her your shop and build you a new one or the other way around? Man and wife in the same shop – I suppose it’s possible. Who’s going to be the boss? Ya’ll might be able to write a book about this before it’s over with. We’ll all stay tuned in. ;-|

helluvawreck
https://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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b2rtch

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#3 posted 07-30-2012 12:56 PM

I think that helluvawreck has good point.
Let your wife take this shop over and build a brand new one for yourself.

-- Bert

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doughan

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#4 posted 07-30-2012 12:56 PM

lol “i thought you had more clamps then this”........quick ,while she is still interested, make her help you shop for more tools…this opportunity could be over soon if she gets bored with it!!!

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nwbusa

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#5 posted 07-30-2012 01:00 PM

Great story, the quotes are hilarious… fun times!

-- John, BC, Canada

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Fishinbo

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#6 posted 07-30-2012 01:18 PM

Indeed, you have to be careful with her from now on. You are now a power couple in woodworking.

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waho6o9

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#7 posted 07-30-2012 01:19 PM

That’s awesome LumberJoe, there’s nothing like team work.
Keep us posted, I see a new workbench in your future with Benchcrafted
Hardware.

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Alexandre

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#8 posted 07-30-2012 01:27 PM

Give here your old shop, And get yourself that DREAM SHOP you wanted…
She can’t complain, as she KICKED you out….

-- My terrible signature...

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lumberjoe

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#9 posted 07-30-2012 01:36 PM

I think the best thing that came out of this are:

1 – I will definitely have more leeway with tools and lumber. She spent the evening online looking at different exotic woods she wants to make things out of.
2 – Even though we only spent about 16 hours out there this weekend, she is really starting to grasp the process, and more so she is getting an understanding of wood in general. She always has me stain things awful colors, if you look though my projects you can see me complain. With cutting boards you can’t use stain. She did an excellent job and matching up grain patterns and is very into grain arrangement and natural wood colors now. The minwax can finally go in the trash!

You can see what she did here. The two pieces of cherry came out really nice together:

Here is what it looks like on the top, also the spalted maple is two pieces. She matched them up nicely:

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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derosa

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#10 posted 07-30-2012 01:46 PM

Talk her into a sawstop and show her how it works, she’ll be even more confident about using the saw.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Tennessee

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#11 posted 07-30-2012 01:53 PM

The bright side:
1. Your best friend is now a woodworker.
2. New and exciting tools are on the horizon.
3. Exotic woods you never hoped to buy will be flowing through your table and band saw.
4. Never work with dark and blotchy stains again!
5. Someone to do all that boring sanding you hate so much.

The dark side:
1. You will have to slow down to teach her many, many things, some of which will make no sense to her.
2. Bumping into another person all the time in your shop, previously your “mancave”.
3. Fruitless explanations on why this Powermatic/Grizzly/Laguna/Festool/Frued is better than the Harbor Freight/Craftsman/Ryobi/(Put your favorite junk tool name here).
4. Soon, your project list will actually be her project list.
5. There is a chance she will end up a better woodworker than you, and learn more techniques.

Updates will be appreciated. For now, I like it when my wife comes down and says, “Do you need anything?”, and I say, “No, I’m fine, Baby.” And she leaves after telling me how beautiful whatever I am working on looks. Close enough for me!

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#12 posted 07-30-2012 02:09 PM

Ha! that’s funny Paul. She is actually more of a brand snob than I am. You should see her sewing equipment. Even “Singer” is a dirty word. “Made in the USA” isn’t good enough for her. If it isn’t Swiss or German, she doesn’t buy it. She even asked me multiple times why I ”bought such a piece of crap planer” She is really starting to see the value in good tools and how buying cheap tools ends up costing you twice. I will probably have a DW735x before the week is out as she wants to make 12 more long grain boards at request of her coworkers.

My project list is already her project list. The only thing I made that I actually wanted to make was all of my jigs.

Also, that is not my mancave. She already as her area and spends quite a bit of time out there with me. She loves to restore old furniture. She never really paid attention to what I was doing until now. I did get a LOT of “why do you have to…” questions, but showing her why is easier than explaining it.

My mancave is upstairs. I love music, and have a very nice room with great acoustics, a beautiful set of bowers and wilkens speakers fed by a McIntosh tube amp, a single, comfy leather chair, some woodworking books and not much else.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#13 posted 07-30-2012 02:18 PM

” McIntosh tube amp” these things still exist?
They were ancient when I was young. I know that some people love them for their sound.
A long time ago, 50 years, I use to have a Blaupunk stereo with tubes the sound was excellent

-- Bert

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#14 posted 07-30-2012 02:22 PM

Yes, Mcintosh still makes them, along with a few other brands. They are absurdly expensive though, but in my opinion 100% worth it.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#15 posted 07-30-2012 02:22 PM

question: ‘I’ve created a monster”
So, who is the monster?

-- Bert

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Tennessee

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#16 posted 07-30-2012 02:23 PM

Man, Joe. Maybe this wifey thing has real possibilities!!

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#17 posted 07-30-2012 02:31 PM

Bert -that remains to be seen! I’ve already received a few pics from her today via email about cutting boards she wants to make.

Paul – we get along really well and have done a lot of joint projects in the past, never woodworking though. She does excel at everything she does, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she is giving me tips in a few months

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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Bill White

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#18 posted 07-30-2012 02:42 PM

Sure beats the heck out of having to play canasta.
Good on your bride.
Oh! Why is this Off-Topic? I find it very topical for a wwing site.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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hhhopks

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#19 posted 07-30-2012 05:44 PM

A family that makes saw dust together will stay glued together.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#20 posted 07-30-2012 05:45 PM

More exactly;
A family that makes saw dust together will remain dusty together.

-- Bert

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#21 posted 07-30-2012 06:12 PM

Joe
My wife is also taking an interest in wood working. I love it and hope that we spend countless hours making dust.

-- My theroy in wood working will be. If I'm not enjoying doing it i won't do it.

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#22 posted 07-30-2012 06:15 PM

Give a man a fish, you feed him for the day. Teach him to fish and you are going to need a bigger boat.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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#23 posted 07-30-2012 06:45 PM

I guess I’m lucky. My wife has always been interested in my shop work and helps me quite frequently.
The first thing I taught her was “always know where your hands and fingers are”.

-- Life is good.

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#24 posted 07-30-2012 06:45 PM

David, that’s very true. I am just glad she is starting to understand a lot more. She is shying away from the Pintrest “up-cycled” crap she was into before and seeing that making really nice “store quality” stuff is possible with a lot of reading, some trial and error, and a lot of effort. Now instead of looking to make coffee tables from stacking and painting two pallets, she wants to make an arts and crafts style table out of cherry. She really liked the way cherry looked when it was oiled down.

Even if she doesn’t get into woodworking, I’m not going to have to buy the cheapest wood possible and smother it with ebony stain to make her happy anymore. That’s a win right there.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#25 posted 07-30-2012 07:36 PM

Here is the nice one we made. It came out really good, I was impressed!

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/69353

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#26 posted 07-30-2012 08:37 PM

I am always surprised that there are not more women in woodworking. In a way it might be for the best. They would probably be better at it than us. :)

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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#27 posted 07-30-2012 11:19 PM

lumberjoe you are a lucky man indeed!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#28 posted 07-31-2012 01:53 AM

I think so too oldnovice. Thanks!

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#29 posted 07-31-2012 09:49 AM

Well, Joe you are not the only lucky man here.
My wife Mary also always encouraged me to buy better tools and even to build my shop (so far I have probably close to 35,000.00 in it).
She buy better tools for me than I do .
I am too cheap to spend money on the best tools.
She does not spend much time int he shop with me only because she knows that I do to like having people around me.
She helped me in the shop a few times

-- Bert

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scharx

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#30 posted 07-31-2012 11:26 AM

good one b2rtch :))

-- Andrei, http://www.scharx.ro/

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#31 posted 07-31-2012 11:38 AM

That’s awesome Bert. You have a very impressive shop. I wish mine was even half that nice

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#32 posted 07-31-2012 11:57 AM

Thank you Joe.
I have the shop, you have the talent.
One can be bough the is other cannot.

-- Bert

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#33 posted 07-31-2012 12:15 PM

Great story! I’ve tried to get my wife in the shop a few times. No dice..

I love the comment about the slow planer. You better get your order in for a new planer and more clamps soon before this window closes!

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#34 posted 07-31-2012 12:42 PM

Honestly, I don’t mind my planer. If I am going to spend 700$, I’d rather have a band saw. We did get some more clamps last night though.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#35 posted 07-31-2012 01:07 PM

My wife has the best of both worlds – she goes through catalogs, finds pictures of things she wants and says – “I want that but not that one, I want it better – make it in ash, maple, oak or something light colored!”

She has 3 or 4 large binders of 50-100 pages of her wish list. She hates the noise of the power tools, when I make them by hand, she tells me I am taking too long to make it.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#36 posted 07-31-2012 01:19 PM

You’d better take up sewing…. it looks like the shop is hers now.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#37 posted 07-31-2012 01:46 PM

Just be safe – when two people are working at the same time, the rules change – tools are not where you left them, sometimes something is left on or the cut was changed.

The last thing you want is your better half getting hurt – that is something that would make my shop go away – in a minute.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#38 posted 07-31-2012 02:03 PM

Haha – great story Joe. Hope you have good times together.

You may even be a missionary who has just converted a “pagan” ( no offence ) to our faith.
Your reward will be great in Woodwork Heaven ;-)

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#39 posted 07-31-2012 10:44 PM

David, very true. I’m kind of a safety freak. We had a long conversation and some “no exceptions” and “0 tolerance” rules.

1. If one of us is using a power tool, both are wearing glasses and (hearing protection for routers/planer)
2. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING PERIOD EVER! I set all the heights, fence distances, stop blocks etc.
3. When you are done with a tool, unplug it. Place the plug over the tool, not on the floor, and make sure the prongs are visible. If I had lock-out tags, I would use them :)
4. Nothing goes on the floor that doesn’t have legs.
5. When I am at the table saw or router table, nothing else happens in the shop. No exceptions. No standing in front of me or behind me.

It worked out really well and we actually work well together. It was kind of nice.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#40 posted 07-31-2012 11:29 PM

lumberjoe now you are just making me jealous!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#41 posted 08-05-2012 11:04 PM

It’s official, she’s hooked. She is actually out in the shop now using a lathe. She has officially used it longer than I have

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#42 posted 08-06-2012 01:21 AM

SO where are you going to put your shop now that you loosed your old one?

-- Bert

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lumberjoe

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#43 posted 08-06-2012 12:36 PM

Ha, there is plenty of room for both of us – but not a lathe (yet). I wasn’t planning on setting this up for a while, but she just had to use it. I must say, turning is a lot of fun!. Here is her very first turning, and her very first pen. African Teak, finished with HUT friction polish:

I drilled the blank and reamed it, she did the rest. Now I guess it’s my turn to make a pen

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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#44 posted 08-06-2012 12:46 PM

I find strange the passion that people in the USA have to turn pens.
I do not understand it.

-- Bert

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Gene Howe

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#45 posted 08-06-2012 12:56 PM

My wife got me into woodworking in our college years, when we needed a table. Concrete blocks and an old door was not her style.
Phyllis has always taken an interest in the shop. Especially when the projects are for the house. She’s not fearful of any tool, but she has some trepidation with measuring. Fractions are not her thing. (Mine either!)
A side benefit , but a large one, is that when she’s in the shop it stays a lot cleaner and less cluttered!

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#46 posted 08-06-2012 07:04 PM

Bert, turning pens is a lot of fun and very inexpensive if you don’t factor in the several hundred dollars I spent on a lathe, easy wood tools gouges, whiteside pen mill/reamer and all the other stuff. You can get 100 blanks for 100$ – a lot of which are “exotics” either from woodcraft or PSI. We like making cutting boards too, and those 5” maple/walnut/cherry/etc scraps are the perfect size for pens, and really nothing else. They also make very nice and very appreciated gifts.

I was kind of shocked by the extremely shallow learning curve for pen making. Neither of us had even seen a lathe operated in person, and we were both able to successfully turn a pen on our first shot. They weren’t perfect, but much more than acceptable in quality and perfect functionality. Sanding beyond 400 grit would have helped a lot. I need to get some of the micromesh stuff today.

-- www.etsy.com/shop/KandJWoodCrafts

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