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SUPER GLOAT!!!!!! Santa came early this year :)

by Jerry
posted 07-28-2012 12:11 AM


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knotscott

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#1 posted 07-28-2012 12:19 AM

Gloat worthy haul for sure!

Ironically, I just saw a pic of a very similar PM66 overhaul on another forum (posted for inspiration!):

Good luck, and please post progress pics of your saw project.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Don W

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#2 posted 07-28-2012 12:22 AM

check this out before deciding what to do with the 3 phase motor. http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2806 . Converting (or running) with single phase isn’t the impossibility it used to be.

Nice additions you have there.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Jerry

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#3 posted 07-28-2012 12:24 AM

Here are more deals!

This is a “Made in America” 14” Delta bandsaw. Believe it or not we run a small family cabinet shop and have never owned a real bandsaw. My wife told me to come home with a bandsaw since she has wanted one forever. She wants to build bandsaw boxes for people out of our many scraps. It appeared to be in good condition. Not sure of age but looks newer condition. I know Lowes used to sell a Delta 14” bandsaw for around 400 or 500. But I think this bandsaw is not the same one from lowes. I paid 85.00 and a fella that attended told me when he worked for Otto Dukes (woodworking machinery company) they sold this same band saw for 1100.00 new. Everything looks good but no blade is included. I am not sure of hp rating, I guess it is 1.5 hp.

5 hp single phase Leeson motor / Delta Cyclone dust collector. This is the single main reason for attending the auction. Our current dust collector is a 2 hp grizzly and very underpowered for our work. Our Woodmaster 725 gets buried everytime we use it. The dust collector needs a hepa filter added and a barrel that connects below the cyclone part. I also need to purchase duct work, etc… So it might be another month or more before I get this set up. But I paid 160.00 for the unit and it appears in good condition. The 6” inlet port is dented but appears to be something I can fix easily.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Don W

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#4 posted 07-28-2012 12:27 AM

ohhhh, I like that bandsaw!!!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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cabmaker

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#5 posted 07-28-2012 12:36 AM

You did good Jerry ! Cant believe the pmatic for 50 bucks ! That right hand extension alone was around 400.00 20 yrs ago. JB

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Jerry

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#6 posted 07-28-2012 12:41 AM

Last few deals

Ritter Edge sander. It has access both sides. Boy is it going to require some work cleaning it up. It is very good size. I know very little about this but we have needed an edge sander like yesterday. We ROS all of our edge work which is much more time consuming. I actually got this machine for 95.00. I guess no one wanted it. Some minor adjusting and cleaning and maybe some white lithium greese it should be good as new. I checked the motor and it is a 1.5 hp Leeson single phase. I was surprized the motor is only rated for 1.5 hp because the machine is very large and has a very large work space, I think the exposed belt sanding area is around 60”. I still need to research this machine but to me 1.5 hp seems small. However, Ritter is known for more industrial quality and typically cost a good bit.

Last, but not least, I purchased this Powermatic bandsaw. I only purchased it for resell. I believe it is either the 20” or 24”. It is very very large and extremely heavy. I think it is the 24” version. Woodcraft has this bandsaw listed for 4,800.00 or so. It does not have a blade with it but believe it or not, I purchased it for 75.00. I was totally expecting to pay much higher. When I raised my ticket at 75.00 I was stunned when the auctioneer said, “going once, going twice, sold to #3 for 75.00”. So my expectation is to sell this bandsaw for hopefully more then 660.00 that was the total I paid out today at the auction. Before selling this machine I am going to inspect, align and install a blade and ensure it is in good running condition in order to get my maximum asking price. I am thinking about listing it on Ebay for local pick up. It is fairly clean condition.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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chrisstef

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#7 posted 07-28-2012 12:42 AM

Those school auctions can be a homerun and you knocked it clean outta the park! Like you said a little elbow grease and youre set for life. The last school i was bidding on doing the demo work at had sooo many cast iron gems i had a tough time leaving. There was 6 powermatic 66’s alone.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Don W

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#8 posted 07-28-2012 12:46 AM

are you done yet?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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ShaneA

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#9 posted 07-28-2012 12:53 AM

Sweeeeet! You did aewsome, good luck fixing them and enjoy using, some real scores.

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lew

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#10 posted 07-28-2012 01:04 AM

Great Haul!
The only down side is that another school has abandoned their wood shop program.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Arlin Eastman

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#11 posted 07-28-2012 01:04 AM

Like Don W said “Are your done yet”

Very nice haul

Arlin

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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Jerry

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#12 posted 07-28-2012 01:07 AM

I am still pinching myself because I think I am just dreaming. I am so excited, not only at the haul, but I am also actually looking forward to taking my time and restoring and installing into service the equipment. I am especially looking forward to restoring the PM66 and I plan to take my time and try to get it done as good as I can.

Thanks for the inspiration photo Knottscott! I will post progress pictures. It will be a slower restoration as I plan to restore as I have some extra funds. Our current saws work fine and this saw will be very usefull when I get it ready, but for now I am going to patiently enjoy the project.

Many more pics to come.

So here is the final reciept for what I purchased today. The prices to me seem unreal but maybe that is just how things go at auction. Also noteworthy, while there were likely 30 or more in attendance, none seemed to be woodworkers or in the cabinet trade. For the most part it seemed attendees were there to buy strictly for resell so they did not want to drive prices high.

Oh, and there was some oliver equipment that went cheap also but the shear weight of those pieces intimidated me. There was actually a Oliver Bandsaw that made my PM bandsaw look like a toy. :) And an Oliver planer that I actually regret not bidding on. But it was a great day…

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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cutworm

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#13 posted 07-28-2012 01:15 AM

Gotta love a day like that!

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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Jerry

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#14 posted 07-28-2012 01:24 AM

OK, one more score.

I dont have pics but I actually bought 2 brand new shaper cutters still in packaging. They are raised panel cutters, they are 2 different profiles, one is ogee, cannot remember the other. They were in a small box of stuff another guy bought. He bought the box for 10.00. He told me there was a part in the box he needed and then I asked if he needed the shaper cutters and stated “no”. I told him since he paid 10.00 I would offer him 20.00 for the cutters that way he got his things free plus an extra 10.00. They are 3 wing Delta shaper cutters.

It was a really fun auction but I am sure they cannot all be that good.

I was outbid on several routers, I tried to win a doweling machine and lost and I tried to win one more PM66, it was visibly much newer then the one I had already won, it was between me and just one other bidder and I gave up at 365.00. It had a 52” beise fence and appeared in generally better shape then mine.

And, the auctioneer made a mistake and accidentally put me down for winning the bid on a very nice 15” Delta planer for 165.00. Another guy had won the bid, I actually did not even submit a bid for that planer. They came and got me to clear up the confusion, when I seen my ticket had that planer under my number for 165.00, a small voice in my head said, “gosh that is a good price for that planer, but that would not be honest” so I told them it was a mistake. The other fella was angry but happy I was honest.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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gfadvm

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#15 posted 07-28-2012 01:39 AM

Jerry, You hit the lottery here! What a haul. I’d keep that big bandsaw for sure as you can do a lot with it that the smaller one can’t. And it will do everything that the smaller one can.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Jerry

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#16 posted 07-28-2012 02:18 AM

gfadvm, I agree. I even told my wife I was tempted to keep it because of the resaw capabilities it has. I suppose my only real concern with it will be the fact that it is going to be likely a 5 hp 3 phase piece of equipment. I am not certain it is 3 phase though, the motor was enclosed and so I could not see the motor but I am pretty sure it is 3 phase, but not certain at this point. At just over 1000 lbs, I have to go back on Monday with more muscle to load it up and bring it home.

A VFD for a 5 hp motor is going to be more expensive but certainly not a deal killer for such a machine.

Still thinking about it.

Thanks to everyone for the good comments.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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cliff56

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#17 posted 07-28-2012 02:32 AM

great deals for sure but sad to see another school shop gone. i remember those days so fondly

cliff

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Jerry

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#18 posted 07-28-2012 02:43 AM

Yes, it is sad to see the woodshop programs closing. I’m thinking the younger generations are a different breed for sure. A guy at the auction said his son preferred to take Art then taking Shop class when he was given the choice. I just don’t know in this digital age with addictive high tech gaming our younger generations are as motivated to push hours in a hot shop for extended hours.

With that said, my two girls are 4 and 6 years old and they both build things. My 6 year old built a small home for our ball python. She also built a nice looking toy playground out of scraps. My 4 year old built a very extravegant pencil holder out of scraps. :)

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Beginningwoodworker

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#19 posted 07-28-2012 02:55 AM

Nice find!

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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Jerry

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#20 posted 07-28-2012 03:02 AM

Thanks CJIII.

I lucked out and timing is everything. I have seen these auctions advertise in the past but was not flush financially. This time it worked out.

By the way, I bet you have gained a ton of woodworking experience since you first signed on here. So I bet you know your way around some woodworking fairly well. I mention that because of your listed name “Beginningwoodworker” :)

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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dnick

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#21 posted 07-28-2012 03:28 AM

Congratulations. Really. What a deal.

-- dnick, North Hollywood, Ca.

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Richard

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#22 posted 07-28-2012 04:35 AM

If it were me, I’d be pinching myself to make sure it wasn’t a dream! Incredible score Jerry!

-- "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain

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AHuxley

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#23 posted 07-28-2012 11:43 AM

Great haul, I mean really great!

“Last, but not least, I purchased this Powermatic bandsaw. I only purchased it for resell. I believe it is either the 20” or 24”. It is very very large and extremely heavy. I think it is the 24” version. Woodcraft has this bandsaw listed for 4,800.00 or so.”

If I am not mistaken that is a 20” PM 81 which they technically do not make any more, the current Taiwanese 2013 is the “evolution” of that saw but it is actually heavier. The PM 81 is the most prized of the “light weight” welded steel saws built by one of the light duty machine companies and if complete and running will easily cover your costs. The PM 81 saws competed with the Delta 28-350 and 28-3X0. That saw would have been made between 82-95, and the first four digits of the serial number should be XX81 with the XX being the year it was built.

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dhazelton

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#24 posted 07-28-2012 12:12 PM

I was thinking what the previous poster said – keep the big B.S. – Delta or Delta knockoff 14 inchers can be had all day long for a pittance.

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BlankMan

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#25 posted 07-28-2012 07:09 PM

Wow. All I can say is wow. Nice scores. That cyclone be right up my alley. Had a Powermatic edge sander but sold it, didn’t get a lot of use, well hardly any, and needed the room.

I did a online auction when GM closed down the Janesville plant, that’s how I got my Jet JSG-6 sander, had an old Delta one that I really wanted but I was late getting to the auction and missed it, I got a few old Delta drill presses and a Jet grinder too. But the prices weren’t as good as you got by any stretch. It was fun though.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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Bertha

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#26 posted 07-28-2012 07:10 PM

You’re a dirty man, Jerry. And I love it.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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bhog

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#27 posted 07-28-2012 09:30 PM

I second what Al said and raise a you suck.NICE haul.I would add onto my shop to keep all those tools.

-- I don't drive a Prius.

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Jerry

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#28 posted 07-28-2012 09:36 PM

Thanks everyone. If any fellow lumberjocks has an opportunity to go to a woodshop auction I certainly would recommend it. It is highly adviseable. I think sadly more and more of these school wood shops are closing. The auctioneer advised another auction at the boys club is coming up. He stated he new a few wall panel saws wereBut I don’t want a wall panel saw.

So after closer review of the delta bandsaw it is wired 110. I suspect it might be under sized for my potential future with respect to resawing hardwoods. So I am leaning towards keeping the large monster of a bandsaw. Which means selling the smaller delta Vanessa, probably for only about 250.00. I’m not sure if it is actual delta quality or if it is delta clone like what is found at Lowe’s. And while the mini lathe is neat, I think if I keep the PM bandsaw I will sell the mini lathe that is actually in like New condition.

I am certain I will have many questions as I restore and learn the new machines and I plan to post progress pics along the way. Thanks everyone.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Woodmaster1

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#29 posted 07-28-2012 10:31 PM

Nice hull, the delta unisaw at the school I teach at is at 200.00 with two days to go. The boice crane lathe is at 60.00.

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CyberDyneSystems

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#30 posted 07-29-2012 12:08 AM

$50.00 for PM 66? NICE!

If I remember correctly, a single phase motor swap is much easier on the PM than on a Unisaw (which requires a specific motor)

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Pimzedd

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#31 posted 07-29-2012 12:46 AM

As a retired “Shop Teacher” it hurts to see them close down. Was that at Lamar H. S.? I was there in Feb. and had heard they were closing their Carpentry class.

Wish I had know about the auction, I would have made the drive down from Dallas.

Nice haul.

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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Jerry

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#32 posted 07-29-2012 12:59 AM

Woodmaster, I hope you get the unisaw. We have a 3 ho unisaw. Our unisaw is right tilt which is the only thing I don’t like but otherwise I love our unisaw. Hopefully u get a good price. I got an excellent price but the condition of the saw is certainly rough but I will have a ton of fun restoring the machine.

CyberDyne, I am leaning towards swapping the motor out on the PM 66. The old motor likely works fine but certainly has some mileage on it. The serial number reveals it was built in 82. So new motor will provide basically a new saw, plus a few other repairs, etc…

Bill, it was Brackenridge HS. I would have loved to be a shop teacher myself. I have my BA degree but never went into a teaching career and now shop programs are closing down.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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hhhopks

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#33 posted 07-29-2012 02:27 AM

Congrat.
It is the mother of all tool gloat.
You should win for the gloat of the year and should be in for the running for the decade.
We all want to know where will the next tool auction would be.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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