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Questionable Fundraising Abuse

by poopiekat
posted 07-21-2012 02:58 PM


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Don W

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#1 posted 07-21-2012 03:06 PM

I agree.

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#2 posted 07-21-2012 03:19 PM

There is help for those hitting a low spot in life but not here. The pleas beome like the noon whistle, “There it is again.”
I get enough “begging” phone calls without having to read hard luck stories on Web sites.

-- Jerry

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#3 posted 07-21-2012 03:32 PM

Agreed, There are plenty of interstate on ramps to go beg. Matter a fact we all have problems, we all have troubles, and we all need help sometimes. But on a woodworking showcase, there is no place for it.

wait while I’m at it, My shop has been reduced to a tightly packed storage unit for the next year or so…. Any donations towards a rental garage until then will be greatly used…... And if you need help call someone else…

You do know that last part is a joke. If I need money I’ll work for it, even if it tarnishes my pride temporarily. Thats the problem, people think that are worth more than the next guy when we all just need to do what it takes…..Dont feed off of others generosity

Great post

-- Live by what you believe, not what they want you to believe.

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DKV

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#4 posted 07-21-2012 04:16 PM

Kindness, or lack of, will get you your just rewards. It is a two way street. You give, you get…

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know what I mean...

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#5 posted 07-21-2012 04:36 PM

In these tough times… One could very easily get caught behind the eight ball…

I think it depends on the circumstance…

Hey, I need money all of the time… but I don’t ask for more… But, right now, I do not consider myself behind the eight ball.

Each Case is different… Cannot be a Black & White… Yes / No issue…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#6 posted 07-21-2012 04:40 PM

One could very easily get caught behind the eight ball ….. consider myself behind the eight ball

Joe (or someone else) – could you perhaps translate this “eight ball” thing for us foreigners? :-)

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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DKV

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#7 posted 07-21-2012 04:42 PM

Joe, if you ever get behind the eight ball let me know. Just send me your address and I will help.

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know what I mean...

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#8 posted 07-21-2012 04:58 PM

Well, yes, sometimes we DO get behind the eight-ball. As are some of us here in Lumberjocks. Some of us would no sooner ask for a handout from fellow members than others might. We may never know of the plight of some LJs who will never divulge their own desperate straits for the purpose of peeling a buck or two from fellow members.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 07-21-2012 05:29 PM

Becareful with the hand outs … read this on another post.
...

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#10 posted 07-21-2012 05:30 PM

I would happily take a word of encouragement, a piece of advice or straight talking from anyone on LJ’s before asking for a penny.
There but by the grace of God and angels go I.

I’m guessing (as a foreigner) that being behind the 8 ball is similar to being snookered. Or up the creek without a paddle?

-- Gossamer shavings just floating around the back yard….-Bandit

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#11 posted 07-21-2012 05:47 PM

Johnnyblot:

Yes! In dire straits… Really Bad OFF… LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#12 posted 07-21-2012 06:05 PM

Arlin Eastman is a sincere woodworking enthusiast, and Veteran, and does not deserve to be treated so poorly.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 07-21-2012 07:51 PM

Thank you for bringing up this subject. I agree that you can give money to whoever you want. But when it is given on false pretenses it is wrong. I can only hope that the recipients paid back every penny, especially if they have a business and better woodworking tools than we have.

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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poopiekat

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#14 posted 07-21-2012 07:58 PM

Thanks, RiverWood and everyone else for all the great replies!
The issue, upon reflecting, is one of accountability. The closer we pay attention, the more we realize that the people receiving charity in one thread, are gloating about their two dozen routers, gifted lumber from fellow ‘Jocks, or upscale plane purchases in another thread… Vigilance is a small price to pay, to prevent getting hosed! All I got to say on this…for now.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#15 posted 07-21-2012 08:41 PM

Bottom line, if you need money, sell your tools, don’t take mine

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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#16 posted 07-21-2012 10:09 PM

Poopiekat

Thank you for the kind comment. One thing to remember is individuals are thankful like in the past for me

Link

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/27194

and to this

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/27262

and last

http://lumberjocks.com/patron/blog/24028

I have and will never forget the kindness and warm reception from LJs. If everyone could have just seen what Patron had to clean up just to make everything he did.

However, there are a few stinkers everywhere you go.

Arlin

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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RiverWood

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#17 posted 07-22-2012 02:04 AM

where are the posters that reply on every subject ?

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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poopiekat

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#18 posted 07-23-2012 12:00 AM

Here’s a great example… going on right now: http://lumberjocks.com/topics/39995

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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Mainiac Matt

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#19 posted 07-23-2012 12:49 AM

Though my wife and I give what I consider a significant amount to charitable causes… the list of groups that we will give to has become one that is very short… and consists of groups and people that we know and trust.

Too many scammers out there these days… and even the well established and reputable organizations are turning into “big charity corporations”.... (Personally… I’m all done with the American Red Cross).

Years ago, when I participated in the Combined Federal Campaign, they published the percentage of overall revenue that went to cover “admin. expenses” (anything from salaries to parties)... That was an eye opening experience… and to this day, we look for charitable organizations that participate in accountability registers which in turn publish the stats on all the organizations finances.

I guess I’ve missed the solicitations here on LJ… but that’s probably because I enjoy the sight more when I don’t visit the off topic section :^)

I have seen some guys who have contributed a lot to the sight who have shared some of their troubles… but those posts seemed to be looking for advice or just sharing their troubles in hopes to receive moral support.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#20 posted 07-23-2012 01:59 AM

Agreed, ssnvet!
If I recall correctly, only the Salvation Army takes the least off the top for administrative expenses, with something like 95% of revenue going toward its missions. The rest were far below this standard, keeping an unbelievable amount of charitable donations for, ahem, salaries and fundraising activities….

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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lew

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#21 posted 07-23-2012 02:06 AM

Thanks for posting this “Poopiekat”. “The Dude” burned a bunch of us over at the Patriot site.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#22 posted 07-23-2012 02:31 AM

Good posting. Glad I blocked “the Dude” ...thought he was a bit on the goofy side. Figured he was a drunk.
Now we know more.

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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