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Need help in choosing a portable 13" planer

by WhoMe
posted 766 days ago


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Alexandre

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#1 posted 766 days ago

I have the Ridgid.
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I have blunt blades from my project ^^^^
They are basically the same, Although I would get the DW 735, but due to your budget, the ridgid may be better as it has a lifetime warranty.
I usually buy Ridgid tools due to their Warranty, Quality, Performance and price.

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#2 posted 766 days ago

I have a Makita in great shape. Fairly new blades includes a stand and thin cut sled. I live in North San Diego County. I just bought a used 15” delta that I’m still setting up. If we can close the geography gap between us and decide on a fair price It would be a good and reliable alternative to a new one. I can email you a picture if you are interested.

-- Ken

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MrUnix

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#3 posted 765 days ago

I am guessing that you are looking at purchasing new and around the $400 mark based on your two choices? If you are not dead set on new, I’d look around for a good deal on lightly used older models. They pop up all the time around here, generally from someone who needed a planer for a single project and doesn’t need it after it’s finished. With patience, you can find basically new machines selling for half their original price or less. And in some cases, the older ones may actually be better.. for example, the old DW733 uses standard knives that can be resharpened over and over again, while the DW734 (and DW735) use indexed disposable blades which, while convenient, will cost more in the long run.

Just for grins, I did a quick scan on CL.. I found 3 13” dewalts going for between $200-$250 and were listed as being “like new”, “barely used”, etc.. A Delta 13” two speed selling for $100 that, while not stated in the ad, looked like it had never been used! And a 13” Ridgid “used 5 times” and on a custom built roll around cabinet with lots of extras included for $300. I found several more various models around the same $200 price point, but you get the idea. They are out there, you just gotta look :)

Cheers,
Brad

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teejk

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#4 posted 765 days ago

Ridgid went through those “tough times” with HD and from what I hear are trying hard to improve their image. Dewalt 734 is probably the same machine but the only guy I knew that had one traded up to the 735 pretty quickly.

I own the Delta 2 speed…it’s served me well once I got over the “snipe” thing…from what I read, there isn’t a portable made that can avoid it.

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MedicKen

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#5 posted 765 days ago

I had a 734 and it was a nice little planer. I did not like the amount of noise though. It is a LOUD planer and I cringed when I turned it on and felt for the neighbors. I did like the ease of blade changes. It uses double sided disposible blades that are a little pricey, about $50. Total time in blade changes is about 15 minutes. It has a pre-indexed system so the blades are set automatically, no tedious setting with the 734. I was also able to adjust it so I had no snipe, that was a little tedious and took some time, but once set I never had to change it again.

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Dallas

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#6 posted 765 days ago

I was given a Delta 22-580 13” two speed planer by a fellow about 60 miles from me.

I did a major overhaul because the problem we thought it had wasn’t and I ended up changing the gear pack.

Once up and running, it is a wonderful little planer, (huge by lunch box standards).

No snipe, (within .002” tolerance all along the length).

The newer model is the 22-590, but I can’t comment on how well that one works.

I see the 22-580’s on ebay a lot some for under $100.

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waho6o9

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#7 posted 765 days ago

+1 for the Dewalt.

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#8 posted 765 days ago

If you are looking at the Ridgid be sure to check out the NEW Ridgid. It has a cutterhead lock and it has a top handle for cutter head height.

I have this one and it is really nice for $399.

-- http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6255915

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tyskkvinna

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#9 posted 765 days ago

I will sing the praises of my Dewalt planer to the end of time. I have the model slightly up from your price range, so take it for what it is worth. I’ve had to take it apart a few times (due to user error, the planer did its job just fine) and have been able to do so pretty easily, dig out or clean out the gunk and put it back together with no issue at all. I’m a huge fan of Rigid, but I LOVE MY DEWALT PLANER. :)

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HerbC

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#10 posted 765 days ago

I just recently got the Ridgid. Haven’t used it much cause of honey-do’s that have to be done first but the little bit it seems very good. And the “lifetime” service agreement (not a warranty exactly but better than many mfgs seem to offer…) made it attractive. With my military discount, got it for $350 plus tax…

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

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madts

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#11 posted 765 days ago

I have been very happy with my 13” Dewalt. Does what I need. I just seem to go through blades faster than I think I should.

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#12 posted 765 days ago

I have the Dewalt 735. I love it. Its been a great machine and havent had any problems in the years since I bought it with hundreds of BF of lumber through it. I chose the 735 because the dual speeds and also it had the blower for chip ejection. I know its a bit more than the 734, but its a nice machine and well worth the price.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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rockinmichael

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#13 posted 765 days ago

I have the Dewalt 735. The quality of cut is absolutely superb. I got mine for a steal at only 450 dollars from the toolking store in Lakewood, Co. I highly recommend it, even with the additional cost.

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lumberjoe

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#14 posted 765 days ago

I can’t tell you what brand to get, but make sure it has a cutter head lock! I recently got a planer SUPER cheap but it takes a lot of effort keeping that cutter head from wandering during cuts. When I upgrade it will likely be the ridgid for the simple fact that the knives are so much cheaper than the dewalt.

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gfadvm

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#15 posted 765 days ago

I have the previous 3 blade Ridgid and have really used/abused it with no problems. I just saw the new/improved Ridgid at HD (same price as the 734 DeWalt). It seems bigger/beefier than mine but someone who owns the new model needs to weigh in. If mine ever dies, I’m buying another Ridgid.

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BTimmons

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#16 posted 765 days ago

I’m unclear on what exactly the cutter head lock does. I imagine it’s there to keep the blades from moving up and down during the cut?

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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SnowyRiver

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#17 posted 765 days ago

The cutter head lock simply locks the drum so you can change the blades without the head rotating.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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BinghamtonEd

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#18 posted 765 days ago

I have the DeWalt 734 (purchased form Amazon w/ free shipping), and love it. Just a well-functioning machine. Came set up excellent out of the box, and required no adjustments, and continues to produce boards with no perceivable snipe (not to say it isn’t there, but I haven’t seen it).

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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WhoMe

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#19 posted 765 days ago

Thank you all for the insight. So, from what I gather, these two are not very different. It seems that the differences are pretty minor between the two. The two things I picked up is the cutter head lock on the Rigid and the indexed blades (and cost of them) on the DeWalt.
Other than that, both seem to work just fine and many are happy with their choices.
As for the DeWalt 735, as much as I would love to get that and be done with it, it is not in the cards right now. As for used, I will look around but at this point, I will have to see if the opportunity arises on the new units to make it worth it on my end.

Again, thanks for all the insight. It all helped.
Mike

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and the wall gets in the way.. - Mike -

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Tennessee

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#20 posted 765 days ago

I have the Rigid with TWO blades, bought it back in 1999, and it is still hogging along. I keep it in service since it will go to 1/8”, and my new Grizzly will only go down to 3/16th. Of course, I can’t run 3MM thick flame maple through it, but no one can with straight blade planers no matter what brand.
The NEW Rigid, with three blades, the cutterhead lock, top mounted adjustment, and lifttime warranty is a no-brainer for me, if I was to get another lunchbox. Mainly because of the lifetime warranty, and my heavy, heavy use of my 1999 model is proof to me that the best lifetime warranty is the one you don’t need. Also, you can resharpen the blades very easily, still have two out of the three sets I bought in the first three years. The thing is just a TANK…

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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Alexandre

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#21 posted 765 days ago

The new Ridgid planer R4330 i think doesn’t have a cutterhead lock….

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Tennessee

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#22 posted 765 days ago

BTimmons, the cutterhead lock is to keep the cutterhead from self-adjusting up and down on the Rigid while cutting. There is also a cutter wheel lock that engages when you take off the covers to change the blades. They are not the same thing, and have two different purposes. One is located under a cover on the Rigid for blade changing, and the other is a locking arm above the height adjusting wheel to prevent creep while cutting.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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pintodeluxe

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#23 posted 765 days ago

I would go with the Dewalt 734. It comes with nice foldable infeed/outfeed tables.
I have the 735, and the main difference is an automatic cutterhead lock. On the 734 you have to flip the lock down before each cut.
I would also research which has a chip blower built-in. I know the 735 does, and it is a great feature, even when used with a dust collector.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Tennessee

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#24 posted 765 days ago

Alexandre you are right. I didn’t realize. They use a “Precision Lead Screw System” they claim eliminates the need for a cutterhead lock. Hmmm. Call me old school, but I like my cutterhead lock.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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newwoodbutcher

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#25 posted 765 days ago

I live in north San Diego county (about an hour and a half from you). I have a 12 5/16” Ryobi with fairly new blades, an nice metal stand and sled for planning thin stock. It includes an aftermarket dust hood that has never been attached. The planner works great and is in very good condition. I purchased a used 15” Delta stationary planner that I’m still setting up to replace it. If we can close the geo gap between us, I’m sure we can make a good deal for it. If you are interested, let me know. I tried to post a pic but failed. I can email you a pic if you are interested

-- Ken

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b2rtch

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#26 posted 765 days ago

“Haven’t used it a lot but so far it’s great. Ran some maple through it and it came out as slick as glass. I sometimes forget to lock the thickness adjustment but haven’t see an drift with it unlocked. I put my bag for my blower / vac on the discharge port and it worked. Ridgid should make a bag to catch the chips in. The dust collector has a built in impeller in in that really shoots out the sawdust. It’s heavy so I have it on a dedicated tool stand. Thinking about putting it on the Ridgid miter saw stand.

This review says that it has a lock

-- Bert

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b2rtch

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#27 posted 765 days ago

Three-Blade Cutterhead – Leaves a smooth, blemish-free surface to make final finishing easier
Dual-Edge, Quick-Change Blades – Self indexing blades are self-aligning and reversible for extended life
Chip Impeller Dust Removal System – Effectively pulls wood chips froom the workpiece for improved cuts and cleaner work-area Sure-Cut™ Carriage Lock – Locks cutterhead to help minimize snipe at the end of the workpiece
Large Infeed/ Outfeed Table Extensions – Provides extra workpiece support to help eliminate snipe
120 V / 15 Amp Motor – Maximum power for continuous operation
Steel Top with Glides – Extra wide area to easily stage material for the next cut
Depth Adjustment Handle – Easy-to-reach top-mounted handle with 1/16” per revolution precision
Sof-Touch™ Controls – Improve comfort and grip
Ind-I-Cut™ Depth Gauge – Instantly measures cutting depth before each pass
Repeat-A-Cut™Depth Stops – Eight adjustable stops to precisely plane multiple work pieces to consistent desired thickness for repetitive tasks
MFG Brand Name : RIDGID
MFG Model # : R4331
MFG Part # : R4331

-- Bert

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#28 posted 765 days ago

Oh… Bert, you got the newer R4331!!! I have the R4330…
At least they improved

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Alexandre

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#29 posted 764 days ago

Features Three-Blade Cutterhead – leaves a smooth, blemish free surface to make final finishing easier Dual-Edge, Quick Change Blades – self-indexing blades are self-aligning and reversible for extended life Precision Lead-Screw System – eliminates the need for a cutterhead locking system and provides consistent cut thickness across the full width of the workpiece Large Infeed/Outfeed Table Extensions – provides extra workpiece support to help eliminate snipe On-Board Blade/Tool Storage – keeps blades and blade changing tools conveniently stored for quick and easy access 120 V / 15 Amp Motor with Overload Protection – maximum power for continuous operation Depth Adjustment Handwheel – easy-to-reach side-mounted handwheel keeps top of planer free to stage material Sof-Touch™ Controls – improve comfort and grip Ind-I-Cut™ Depth Gauge – instantly measures cutting depth before each pass Repeat-A-Cut™ Depth Stops – eight adjustable depth stops to precisely plane multiple workpieces to consistent desired thickness for repetitive tasks Dust Hood Rotating Panel – a simple twist opens the dust hood’s rotating panel to allow wood chips to eject from the back of the tool Use genuine RIDGID replacement blades – Model AC20501

Specifications Motor: 120 V, AC only, 15 Amps No Load Speed: 10,000 r/min. (RPM) 30,000 CPM Cuts per Inch: 96 CPI Feed Rate: 26 FPM Capacity: 13 in. and 6 in. Maximum Depth of Cut: 1/8 in. Weight: 73 lbs.

Includes
R4330 Thickness planer, hex key, magnetic blade tool, blade/tool storage, depth adjustment handwheel and knob, dust hood, dust hood knobs (2), and operator’s manual

Bert, I dont see the R4331 on their website.

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#30 posted 764 days ago

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cutworm

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#31 posted 764 days ago

I have the Ridgid and like it. The new model 4331. That being said I can tell you for certain that I am not happy with their customer service. I bought a Ridgid circular saw and it’s been at the authorized service center for nearly 2 months. Got it back the first time after 5 weeks and they hadn’t touched it. Took it back and then called Ridgid. They told me to go get it and take or ship it to another service center…. Not what I wanted to hear. I have a lot of Ridgid products and like them but I am now wondering how good the LSA’s on them will actually be if and when they are needed.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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cutworm

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#32 posted 764 days ago

Bert,
Cool. My review. It has a lock for sure. Knives are different I’m told so make certain they are for the 4331. The chip port has an impeller for improved dust/chip collection. Love the tool hate their customer service.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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b2rtch

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#33 posted 764 days ago

I never had to use LSA yet.
I like the value of their tools,in my opinion the best value of any tool

-- Bert

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flwoodhacker

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#34 posted 764 days ago

I have a Delta TP305 which was what I could afford at the time. I have been very pleased with it. Blades are easy to change. My only issue is collecting dust in my shop so I lug it outside (~60lbs). Hopefully I’ll get my dust collection in order.

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Finisher

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#35 posted 764 days ago

I have owned both of these machines and currently have the Dewalt in my shop. Both machines have theirs. good points. The DeWalt does reduce snipe. (THAT nasty gouge at the ends) We use it all the time. But surprisingly I found the Ridgid more user friendly. They are both good planers for the money and regardless of your choice, either will work fine. But, if I should ever need to replace my DeWalt, I would look seriously at Ridgid.

-- James, Michigan http://www.northcapecabinetsandmillwork.com

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cutworm

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#36 posted 763 days ago

Bert,
I agree. Great bang for the buck. Pretty much everything I own is orange. I happen to live near TTI and they have a sale at their warehouse every 3 or4 months. I got my planer new and not a refurb for $180 or so. I was picking up the 4330 and the Ridgid guy pointed out the 4331. Same price, newer model. Great deals on new and reconditioned tools. 12” slider – $275 on my last trip. Nailers, sanders, bandsaw, table saw, jigsaw, miter saw – all Ridgid. I am not happy with their customer service though. It may be the local center. It may be Ridgid. To me they are one in the same.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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cutworm

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#37 posted 763 days ago

Strange. The ad just under the “Have your say…” box is advertising the 4331. Is someone watching?

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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WhoMe

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#38 posted 763 days ago

So, I decided to go on my local CL and see what is out there. I saw a lot of DeWalt planers. The 735, 734 and 733. At this point, I am still waiting to see if I will be able to purchase one.
But, for those that have them, what is the difference between the 733 and 734 besides the color of the top plate (733=black. 734=silver)
I also saw a Rigid 6” jointer for a steal but that is not what I was looking at. One thing that I did pick up was a Type 16 #3 Stanley hand plane in excellent shape. It was in the power planer section of CL so if I had been looking for this in the hand plane section, it would have been missed. All Japanning is there, exposed metal just has light surface rust and both wood handles are in excellent shape with no cracks, chips and almost all of the original finish is intact. I got it for $40 with a maple stanley bevel gauge and I feel I got a pretty good deal for the shape it is in. So I am a happy camper there.

But with all the information in this thread, I surely feel more educated on what to look for if the new purchase doesn’t come to fruition and I look at used ones.
Thanks again all.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and the wall gets in the way.. - Mike -

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BTimmons

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#39 posted 763 days ago

Regarding the Dewalt planers:

The 733 has a two knife cutter head and it seems to have been discontinued. The 734 is the current model and it has a three knife cutter head, which should deliver a smoother surface.

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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MrUnix

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#40 posted 763 days ago

Like Brian said.. the 733 has 2 while the 734 has 3 knives.. however, the 733 uses standard knives that can be re-sharpened over and over again while the 734 (and 735) use double sided disposable ‘indexed’ ones. If you plan on using it hard, that may be something you might want to consider as it will cost much less maintain sharp knives on the 733.

What intrigues me is your comment about Craigslist and looking in the ‘power planer’ section instead of the ‘hand planer’ section?? Around here, we just got ‘tools’ and they are all lumped together without any distinction between them (or any other tools for that matter)!

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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devann

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#41 posted 762 days ago

When I was in a similar situation I picked up each model and then bought the heaviest one. It had the most powerful motor.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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MedicKen

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#42 posted 762 days ago

How about this?

http://www.machinerymax.com/detail.asp?id=1202&n=Dewalt-Model-DW735-BenchTop-Planer

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