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Spiders

by able339
posted 07-11-2012 05:37 AM


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#1 posted 07-11-2012 07:54 AM

I too have a large number of spiders in the shop (and the house too) – amazing and beautiful creatures.
Excepting the fact that you obviously don’t like them being there, can they do any harm to wood or machinery?

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#2 posted 07-11-2012 12:57 PM

Spiders are bad in East Tn. this year also. Bombs are the most effective since it will get into the smallest crack. Floor to ceiling. Probaly have to bomb again in a couple of weeks to get em. Sprays aren’t to good for spiders. I’d rather have a snake around me than a spider. I had a black snake abt 4ft er at my shop i knew he was there it didn’t bother me and i didn’t bother him.

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#3 posted 07-11-2012 03:34 PM

What I’m mainly worried about is how or if the bug bomb willl affect the lumber and my woodworking tools. It’s not that I don’t like them (actually, I have nothing against spiders except in my shop they are building webs all over the place). That’s the part I don’t like.

-- TNJames

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#4 posted 07-11-2012 03:44 PM

The spiders in my shop and I have a mutual agreement. They don’t bite me and eat all the mosquitoes and bugs that do bit me, and I don’t kill them. So far we have both held up our ends of the agreement

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#5 posted 07-11-2012 06:53 PM

Unless the spiders are poisonous, let them be. They’ll just be back if you spray and the chemicals are probably bad for you (and everything else !)

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#6 posted 07-11-2012 07:43 PM

If you are adamant about removing the spiders from the shop, you can wage an effective battle against them with a shopvac. Knocking the webs down is a complete lesson in futility, however, the vacuuming of the webs complete with spiders will physically remove them from the area without the introduction of questionable chemicals. I don’t particularly like spiders, and will sweep errant ones up as I move about the shop, but have never considered insectile genocide. As long as they remain out of my way, they can live their lives munching on the really annoying insects.

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#7 posted 07-11-2012 08:09 PM

I have a lot of spiders in my shop too. And like others I don’t bother them unless they are in the way or look dangerous. Just the other night I went out to the shop to make sure I had everything locked up and I ran into the biggest spider I’ve ever seen. It must have had the leg span larger than a baseball and it pitter pattered like a rodent when it ran. It even knock off the better part of a small handful of screws I had sitting on the window sill when it ran through. That sucker was fast and could jump too. I wasn’t quick enough to smash it but I managed to suck it up in my shop vac. Then it was easy to get with a 2×4. I’ve never really been afraid of spiders but that one kind of gave me the jitters.

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#8 posted 07-11-2012 08:13 PM

That’s just a wood spider. We have a lot of those in the North East. They are called a wood spider because they look like wood, not because they eat it. They are not aggressive at all, but can get really big and are really fast. Those guys REALLY gobble down the annoying bugs. They don’t build webs, they actively hunt out other bugs.

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#9 posted 07-11-2012 08:20 PM

I love spiders and I never kill them ( that drives my wife nuts), they are useful insects.
I would do about anything to save one from my wife.

-- Bert

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#10 posted 07-11-2012 08:24 PM

I concur with the kindly attitude towards spiders.

Karma, you know.

A friend stayed at my place and was killing spiders and
complaining about spider bites. I told her “I don’t kill
them and they don’t bite me”... which is pretty much
true as far as I can tell.

You can discourage them by knocking down their webs.
Being pragmatic creatures they sometimes move to new
territory.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#11 posted 07-11-2012 08:26 PM

Fortunately I mostly have the wood spiders BobE pictured. they are polite enough to not even build webs. It still freaks me out when I see them curled up on the back of a board, but some encouragement with gentle compressed air sends them scurrying on their marry way gobbling up mosquitoes and those little gnats that love to get stuck in wet finish.

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#12 posted 07-11-2012 11:11 PM

Spiders are not insects.

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#13 posted 07-12-2012 02:08 AM

Most of the spiders in my shop and tack room are Brown Recluse so I really don’t try to live in harmony with them. I have used a lot of ‘bombs’ in both places and have never seen any adverse effects on my wood, leather, or cast iron tool tables. Check the label on the bomb to see that it is recommended for spiders.If you have a lot of small dead “ghosts”, these are most likely dead male Recluse spiders.

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#14 posted 07-12-2012 02:47 AM

Arachnids are rarely adversely affected by “bug bombs”.
If you can kill arachnids with airborne gases, the residual will have detrimental effects on mammals to say the least.
Remove the food sources and the spiders will move out.

-- Sawdust and shavings are therapeutic

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#15 posted 07-12-2012 02:59 AM

If you have spiders, then that means you got another bug problem. Fix that problem first and the spiders will leave since they won’t have a food source.

-- End grain is like a belly button. Yes, I know you have one. No, I don't want to see it.

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#16 posted 07-13-2012 03:27 PM

two things I keep in my shop.. plants and spiders. I have the same agreement as lumberjoe…. OH but jumping spiders I kill because they are just mean and bite me regardless, the rest get the webs shaken out every week. Figure if I am building something so should they. LOL

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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#17 posted 07-13-2012 04:00 PM

I too have the Fiddlebacks(Brown Recluse). I read somewhere to put Mothballs in the shop, I have a whole box scattered around the shop in various places – No Luck sending the buggers out. Bombs are next.

By the way, I understand the brown Recluse can live up to (6) Months with No Eating…..

Sticky traps work great !!! but they also collect all the dust also.

Warning on sticky traps Spiders may still be alive & could still bite !!!!

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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#18 posted 07-13-2012 04:02 PM

Man i had a wood spider scare the ever living crap out of me while i was removing a metal door frame. I went prying on the frame after torching the bolts off and that son of a gun jumped right at my face. Luckily he landed on my hard hat, none the less he got the last beatin of his life, and was sent to the pits of hell with a 700 degree torch. The little ones dont bother me and reside in my basement shop as well, maybe twice a year i clean the webs out with a witches broom.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#19 posted 07-13-2012 04:07 PM

I have hordes of Brown Recluse spiders myself and I’m quite terrified of what happens when they try to give you a kiss. I use tons of spider traps, which can be folded into tents that keep dust out. While they can get expensive, most of my traps have 20 to 50 spiders each in them when they get tossed in the trash. I wish I knew a better method!

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#20 posted 07-13-2012 04:31 PM

”And like others I don’t bother them unless they are in the way or look dangerous.”
LOL! I like that. To me they all look dangerous, and there all in the way.

Right now you can’t even walk around outside without the little things landing on you. I have alot of brown recluse spiders, black widows, brown widows, and wolf spiders. I hate them all. Have you tried sprays like ortho home defense? It is not full proof but will help keep them from entering the building to begin with. Just make sure you know which type of spiders you have because not every spray will kill every spider.

I do that and smash as I see them. Insect or not I hate them and all insects! It’s a phobia of mine. I am the guy that jumps on a table and screams for my wife to save me! lol!

Now I can’t read anymore on this thread, I am getting the creeps! This is like a Steven King book.

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#21 posted 07-13-2012 04:54 PM

I’m with most of you guys. I don’t kill most spiders. My wife hates it. I usually catch any insects in my house and set them “free” outside. Roaches though… they meet their doom quick.

If you have spiders that are considered very dangerous to humans (black widows and brown recluses), I suggest you remove them through any means necessary. While you’re in the shop working, you may not even realize you’ve been bit and the effects can be devastating.

Remove their food source and they will usually go away. Compressed air and vacuum cleaners may work as well for flushing them out and extracting them.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#22 posted 07-13-2012 05:03 PM

I have heard that you can scatter moth balls around the outside of the building. I put them in my deck garden to keep the squirrels away from the tomatoes and squash.

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#23 posted 07-13-2012 05:07 PM

Also, bombing or mass insect genocide may make the problem worse. There are some insects like Daddy long legs that are predators to most other insects, but would never bite a human. You will be killing all their predators and making a nice environment for them to come back into.

I generally work with the garage door open, so whatever can crawl in does. I’ve also found spider hunting is my wife’s cats favorite activity. He loves tormenting those little buggers.

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#24 posted 07-13-2012 05:19 PM

Joe, it’s funny because our house cat loves doing the same thing. We found him playing with a female wolf spider. He would smash it with his paw, run away and hide, and wait for it to start moving again before he smashed it again. He probably would repeat this until the spider died or it was time for him to get his scheduled meal if we had let him.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#25 posted 07-13-2012 05:27 PM

Fortunately he is terrified of the sound of power tools so he is not in there to scare me while I am working, but he lurks outside the door and waits for lulls in the action. As soon as he deems it “safe”, It’s full on Spider rambo mode. He easily gets 5 to 10 a day in there.

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ldl

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#26 posted 07-13-2012 05:50 PM

I also have most of the common types of spiders in my shop but one I don’t know what kind they are. Here are three pic of one of the type of spiders in my shop. They are very fast. They are almost 5” across. Anyone know what kind they are. By the way this is a shed and not the real spider.

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#27 posted 07-13-2012 06:06 PM

The only way to kill spiders with a poison spray is to hit them directly, as a posionous spider resists most poisons very well. Simply walking through a barrier doesn’t stop them like it might on ants and other creatures.

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#28 posted 07-13-2012 06:15 PM

Remind me not to live where most of you do…sheesh. Hate spiders. If there were 5 inchers crawling around my shop I’d never go in there.

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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#29 posted 07-13-2012 07:02 PM

as I understand it.. most spiders are far more resilient than insects, Arachnids breathe through gills and lungs and can hold their breath for long periods of time. Insects breathe through pores and ducts in their skin… so most poisons, especially neurotoxins like mint kill them swiftly but does nothing to spiders.

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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#30 posted 07-13-2012 08:31 PM

I sure do appreciate all of the replies re: my spider problem. All of y’all are really great people. Really helpful! I have to do something to rid the “shop” of the spiders. It’s not that I don’t like them, its the webs that are all over the place!!! I’m going to try a bug bomb that is listed as being effective on spiders. I hope it doesn’t ruin my lumber or machinery… Oh, by the way, I have a Jet floor standing mortise machine that i will sell. It is in near virgin shape – meaning barely used. (Kinda like being just a little bit pregnant, hey?) I can be emailed at “jdmongo@att.net”.

-- TNJames

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#31 posted 07-13-2012 08:44 PM

For some reason, i wound up with a “bite” on one elbow last month. After a couple days, I had a boil in the same spot. Ok, went to get it checked out….you know, it is a bad sign when they start wheeling in trays of stuff in the ER…..Golf ball sized hole later, get told i had MSRA to boot….

ANY AND ALL SPIDERS< LARGE BUGS and other crawly SOBs are on the kill list. Period. i lost three weeks of work to these things, now it is…...


“Of course you know, this means WAR”

They have been warned…....

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#32 posted 07-14-2012 12:20 AM

So what got you bandit571? A brown recluse?

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#33 posted 07-14-2012 12:56 AM

While we have them thick around here, don’t think it was one of them. Look a real light tan colour, almost white. little Ba$%#d had a big bite though. From a Friday afternoon to a monday morning, it went from a little red spot, to a golf ball sized boil. By the time they had all that cleared out, the drugs they used almost killed me. Had a Quad-bypass last year, and still taking stuff for that.

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#34 posted 07-14-2012 01:36 AM

You’d never expect it to be a spider that finally gets you in the woodworking realm. Sheesh.

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