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Is this worth it?

by Alexandre
posted 05-30-2012 11:30 PM


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#1 posted 05-30-2012 11:35 PM

Thats only 1/2 a board foot.
Making this CD$52.00 per board foot. Sounds danged expensive to me.
Such chunks of wood are often found in the fall off bin at the Rocklers for +/- $5

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#2 posted 05-30-2012 11:36 PM

you did mean 9 ft right? If it’s 9” it’s way over priced.
2×4x108=864/144=6bf @ $8.oo(US) = $48.00 if my math is correct. Keeping in mind you are saying it’s full cut dim’s I’d grab it.(if it’s 9 ft.)

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#3 posted 05-30-2012 11:52 PM

I don’t know what a Canadian $ is worth but yeah, I’d spend $26 for 6bf of QS walnut with no sap wood.

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#4 posted 05-30-2012 11:56 PM

It’s 9 feet, not 9 inches

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#5 posted 05-31-2012 12:07 AM

Thats what she said

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#6 posted 05-31-2012 12:15 AM

Well then, $26 for 6bf seems a bit more reasonable.

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#7 posted 05-31-2012 12:18 AM

So is that cheap or not?
I mean is it worth buying it or not?

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#8 posted 05-31-2012 12:23 AM

6bf of clear attractive walnut is worth buying for $26, especially if it is 8/4 and you have a need/use for it.

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#9 posted 05-31-2012 12:37 AM

Good price for good clean walnut, I bought 400 bf a while back 4/4 and paid 8.50bf… it was very nice walnut but still pricy….

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#10 posted 05-31-2012 11:41 AM

It’s 8/4 :P
@ShaneA Thanks! I’ll go get it
@Gshepherd You bought rough walnut?

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#11 posted 05-31-2012 12:17 PM

It is 6 bf, that comes out to $4.33 CAD/ bf or by today’s exchange rate $4.21 USD/ bf. That is a very good price.

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#12 posted 05-31-2012 10:06 PM

I bought it!
Thanks for the advice guys!

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#13 posted 05-31-2012 10:16 PM

Cool!

Now, watcha gonna’ do with it?

Hmmmm…

We want a full description and photos when you do your project with this piece of prem-o wood.

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#14 posted 06-01-2012 01:54 AM

Good deal. I sell walnut, and the 8/4 brings 1.5 times the 4/4 price. That was a very nice deal.

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#15 posted 06-01-2012 10:39 PM

Thanks!
I’ll be posting a project soon!
Also, is a a real size 2×7 piece of cherry, 10ft long worth it at 106 cad dollars

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#16 posted 06-02-2012 02:36 AM

I would sell it for about half that.

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#17 posted 06-02-2012 02:44 AM

Concerning the Cherry, that’s kinda pricey for a $9.08 bf, assuming that CAD is still pretty close to USD. Is it figured?, even then its still high. To answer your earlier question, Walnut prices are increasing because of an uptick in demand. The wood is becoming popular in architectural millwork and thus less of it. 4.33 bf is pretty good for Walnut, assuming its FAS (First And Seconds).

Different places have different prices on different wood, meaning it’s rare that you’ll find a place that is cheap on everything. One place I use is cheap on Walnut, another place is cheap on poplar and hard maple. Just look at the Sapele, an African Mahogany variant. Another thing to consider is if your’s is imported, not sure about the costs associated with importing wood from PA and NY to Canada, can’t be too much. I’ve listed some wholesale distributor prices, which you can use as a basis. Expect to pay retail though.

Here is a BF Calculator, I use it all the time.
http://extension.missouri.edu/scripts/explore/G05506.asp

Here is a guide with Photos of Lumber grading and explanations
http://www.ahec.org/hardwoods/pdfs/IllustratedGradingGuide.pdf

Prices are in USD, and are from different vendors i.e. not all prices are are from the same place for wholesale or resale, I’ve tried to list the lowest prices I’ve recently paid. Except for the Sapele, not paying a 100% markup haha.

Wholesale (architectural millwork shop) prices FAS (First and Seconds):
Cherry 3.40 bf
Walnut 4.20 bf
Poplar: 1.39 bf
Hard Maple: 2.45
Quartered Sapele: 3.40

Retail (FAS): (What you can expect if you look around)
Walnut 4.90 bf
Cherry 4.50 bf
Hard Maple: 3.50bf
Poplar: 1.79
Face Grain Sapele: 6.40

For retail Hearne Hardwoods is pretty reasonable across the board. They have a wide range of stock and an updated pricelist. From Exotics, Figured, Logs etc they have it. I’ve never used them, too far away, but I do use them as a basis for retail.
http://hearnehardwoods.com/hardwoods/pricelist/pricelist.html

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#18 posted 06-02-2012 02:48 AM

$11.66 a bf…too rich for my blood. Wood would have to be crazy exceptional for that price. Like above, about half that price would be in line, but not sure about your market.

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#19 posted 06-02-2012 12:32 PM

It’s figured, spalted planed on all sides cherry.
Although, here cherry sells for about $12 BF

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#20 posted 06-02-2012 01:01 PM

what you need to do is figure board feet. the formula for figuring that is as follows… thickness in inches times width in inches times length in feet divided by 12 equals board feet… example 1” times 6” times 8’ equals 48 divided by 12 equals 4 board feet.. then divide that by the price quoted to determine price per board foot. your piece is 2” times 7” with is 14 times 10 equals 140 divided by 12 equals 11.66 board foot. at $106 makes it $9.31 per board food then there must be a charge for shipping added, either way sounds a bit pricey for cherry.. I am getting mine locally rough cut for about $ 4.00 per board foot.. Its up to you, you may want to check around locally for other outlets for wood.. Then again I don’t know where you live… but I wouldn’t pay that for it.. not to mention the exchange rate between American and Canadian dollars. that’s it, maybe you live in Canada???

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#21 posted 06-02-2012 02:10 PM

“It’s figured, spalted planed on all sides cherry.
Although, here cherry sells for about $12 BF”

I don’t know much about exotic cherry price wise, but usually when you get into Figure and other things the boards are usually priced piece by piece depending on their quality. So saying that we can get Cherry for 4.50 a bf doesn’t really apply if in fact it is Figured and Spalted. Without a picture of the board we can’t give you an accurate number.

If ithe figure quality is good, the spalting pattern is appeasing to you and the board is straight and true it might be worth the money. If it’s a true 2×7 you might be able to bookmatch it.

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#22 posted 06-02-2012 03:06 PM

“It’s figured, spalted ”
Never seen Spalted Cherry before …love to see a picture of it : )

By the way , if it looks like this , http://lumberjocks.com/projects/63566 , it is not Spalting , but only Mineral deposits and sap pockets which are very common and are not worth more than regular Cherry.

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#23 posted 06-02-2012 04:36 PM

I bought some “spalted cherry” a few weeks ago. The guy had it for the same price as regular cherry. Stuff like that is hard for dealers to sell to cabinetmakers because it sticks out from the norm, so sometimes it is more like an inconvenience to them. Thats where we step in to the rescue….

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#24 posted 06-02-2012 04:47 PM

I’d like to see some pics of your Spalted Cherry , davan : )

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#25 posted 06-03-2012 01:03 PM

I bought half of the cherry plank.
The spalted part is at the lumberyard still :/
When I get a chance, I’ll go there and take a picture to show you.

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#26 posted 06-03-2012 02:40 PM

Cool , thank you : )

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