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DAYTON Cabinet Saw

by b2rtch
posted 05-04-2012 06:34 PM


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Loren

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#1 posted 05-04-2012 06:44 PM

Sort of a house brand for Grainger.

Craftsman Industrial saws are the same. I don’t know if
the Craftsman Industrial line is still available.

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#2 posted 05-04-2012 06:50 PM

Thank you Loren,
Yes,Dayton is Grainger trade name.
Where I work we buy everything from Granger (at horrific prices) because of that I can get a discount).
I am looking for some kind of review or someone who would be using one.

-- Bert

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#3 posted 05-04-2012 07:00 PM

AFAIK Dayton makes them….same company that makes the current Ridgid R4512 and Cman 21833 contractor saws that are having alignment issues. I think they used to make the 3hp Craftsman cabinet saws before Steel City/Orion got involved ~ 2004. Their cabinet saw is probably fine, but there’s no way I’d pay $1500 for one when you can get a new Griz or Steel City with warranty and riving knife for that price.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#4 posted 05-04-2012 07:01 PM

I reckon most people who buy from Grainger are not spending
their own money. I expect the typical scenario is a table saw
breaks down in the middle of a job and the manager calls around
and Grainger can get a new one there faster than anybody
else and that’s how Grainger machines get sold.

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#5 posted 05-04-2012 07:02 PM

Yes,but if I buy a Grizzly ( my first choice) I have to pay $400.00 shipping and something in me revolts against the idea.

-- Bert

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#6 posted 05-04-2012 07:26 PM

just look at the total delivered cost….

but keep in mind that Grizzly specializes in selling machinery and has quite a product line of accessories that you know will fit/work with your saw.

Most all of them come from Taiwain these days…

but Grizzly seems to have someone very competant designing and specifying there machines.

I don’t know much of anything about Dayton, accept what has been said. Just Grainger putting their brand name on a readilly available Taiwan TS. Which by no means is a bad thing. ENCO does it as well.

Grizzly does seem to have a pretty good rep. for standing behind their products and warranties however. And they do inventory repair parts and they do motor work in house as well.

I think it’d be easier to re-sell the Grizzly and you might get a little more for it, should you decide you have to have a Saw-Stop some day.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#7 posted 05-04-2012 07:32 PM

just looked at Grainger’s sight.

Didn’t seem to make any mention of a riving knife on the Dayton saws…

that’s something I personally would want.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#8 posted 05-04-2012 07:36 PM

antoher thought…. have Grizzly deliver the saw to where you work.

I work in a state with no sales taxes, so I do this all the time…..

but regardless of taxes, it will save you the upcharge for having a lift gate truck deliver curb side.

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#9 posted 05-04-2012 07:36 PM

Bert I thought the Grizzly TS shipped for like $150. Why would it be $400 for you? Are you in the U.S.?

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#10 posted 05-04-2012 08:22 PM

My recent catalog say $179 shipping for that saw

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#11 posted 05-04-2012 09:01 PM

How you looked at JET??

-- "Of all the things I have lost in life, I miss my mind the most."

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#12 posted 05-04-2012 09:25 PM

I admit that I exaggerated when I said $400, any additional fee bother me.
I ordered then canceled the SteelCity on Amazon for $1100 and no shipping.
It just bother me t pay shipping fees ( even if I know that always pay them even with free shipping).
I also know that soon I shall give in and buy the grizzly with the router table, it is just a battle with myself.( I have the cash in my pocket)

-- Bert

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#13 posted 05-04-2012 10:31 PM

…it is just a battle with myself….

Hope you win!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#14 posted 05-04-2012 10:51 PM

Look at the bright side b2rtch, at least you are supporting a regional trucker who gets to make a few bucks hauling the “Grizz” . :)

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#15 posted 05-05-2012 12:01 AM

FWIW, Grizzly’s shipping is cheaper than you or I could ship those items cross country for. Between their quantity pricing, and subsidizing the s/h on many items, their s/h is darn good when you consider the cost of fuel these days. Compare the price per pound to ship a G1023RL vs a new DVD….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#16 posted 05-05-2012 12:02 AM

Does Grizzly run their own trucks?

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#17 posted 05-05-2012 12:09 AM

OK, OK guys you force me into it.
I shall order the G0690 and the router extension.
YOU are responsible for it

-- Bert

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#18 posted 05-05-2012 12:15 AM

DONE

-- Bert

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#19 posted 05-05-2012 12:15 AM

I am told that Grainger’s was started by a man that had to order parts for his (not personal I think) company. He finally decided he was tired of being told they could have it in 30 days or some such line then they may or may not deliver. Some things are not ours to control. He quit his day job and started Grainger’s and said he planned to have one of everything in stock and would deliver it. Now I am sure it has to be something he has in his catalog. I don’t know how accurate that is but that is the story I hear.

Most of their equipment seems to be pretty good but I doubt this saw will satisfy you unless your old saw is a cheaper one. Some other items I buy and like. I guess I am not saying I have rushed out there to buy one of those saws.

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#20 posted 05-05-2012 12:27 AM

Does Grizzly run their own trucks?

Not that I know of…they use several different local trucking companies, which varies depending on where you are. Around here they use New York/Penn and Roadway.

Bert – Congrats….do we at least get to see some pics when it arrives?

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#21 posted 05-05-2012 12:30 AM

Good Decision!! Do post when you get it running. Congratulations!!

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#22 posted 05-05-2012 01:35 AM

OK guys

-- Bert

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#23 posted 05-05-2012 04:43 AM

They really have the shipping broken out like they do, since the have three retail outlets.

If you buy at the outlet, you don’t pay the shipping

Feel better about it now. :^)

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#24 posted 05-05-2012 08:04 AM

Good luck with the saw.

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#25 posted 05-05-2012 06:04 PM

I just decide to cancel my order with Grizzly as I was on communication with another company to buy their saw.
Not hearing from this other company for several days I decided to buy the grizzly but I just heard from the owner of the other company who wrote me that his silence was due to the death of his brother in law in a car accident.
I am Christian as such for me to keep my word, to be a man of integrity and to treat other decently is very important.
I shall wait for the owner of the other company to mourn and to be back, to decide what to do.

-- Bert

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#26 posted 05-05-2012 07:56 PM

It’s hard not to respect your stance…

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#27 posted 05-05-2012 08:22 PM

Grizzly graciously canceled my order

-- Bert

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#28 posted 05-05-2012 08:30 PM

knotscott, thank you.

-- Bert

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#29 posted 05-06-2012 12:09 AM

I had a dayton contractor saw, POS. Saved the motor, scrapped the rest, got a grizzly, very happy camper now.

-- Crashn - the only thing I make more of than sawdust is mistakes

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#30 posted 05-06-2012 02:06 AM

Well, you have to do what is right. I do understand that. Thanks for sharing that with us.

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#31 posted 05-06-2012 11:07 PM

Buy a used Powermatic or Unisaw on Craigslist for $700-$800, if you’re patient.

-- Gerry, http://g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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#32 posted 05-06-2012 11:41 PM

I won’t buy a saw without a riving knife.
Used saw are often overpriced.

-- Bert

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#33 posted 05-06-2012 11:45 PM

You can add a BORK riving knife to several used saws, including a Uni, Griz 1023 and Jet JTAS.

...or a BORK Blade Guard (BBG).

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#34 posted 05-07-2012 10:31 AM

knotscottm thank you for the information, I never heard of these before.
There is a 5HP Grizzly in perfect shape for sale for a good price not too far from here.

The cabinet version of the BORK will fit the Unisaw, Grizzly 1023 and Jet JTAS.
It will NOT fit any Powermatic or General saws.

-- Bert

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#35 posted 05-07-2012 10:35 AM

knotscottm ,
Question: what makes a Powermatic or a Unisaw better than a Grizzly?
Is it just matter of test?

-- Bert

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#36 posted 05-07-2012 11:50 AM

It just happen to be a Unisaw on sale this morning on my local classified, it look very good and fairly new. The price is also good

-- Bert

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#37 posted 05-07-2012 01:47 PM

”what makes a Powermatic or a Unisaw better than a Grizzly?”

Good question…I”ve never own a PM cabinet or Unisaw so I can only give educated guesses. Maybe someone who knows both saws well can chime in. The Uni and PM66 were made in the US to very high standards, tight tolerances, and were built for extreme commercial use. Some of the metal parts are heavier duty… the PM66 and Canadian made General saws use a meehanite cast iron process that supposedly makes for stronger cast iron (dunno about the Delta). I’d imagine that bearings, switches, and motors are better, so there might even be some precision advantages, but lack of precision isn’t a complaint I’ve heard against the Grizzly.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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