@ David , you know I was just kidding right ? I wouldn’t be so presumptuous as those internet grammar police .Not that unkind. I think you can use any flowery or invented parts of language you so choose . But sym BIO sis is is a tad of a reach for an comparative analogy , even when talking about ,apparently, unknown to me , the secret and even organic, bordering on the erotic , relationship between tools , their masters, and interrelated Cymbiots , Borgs , Cyborgs , Robots and Drones .
“One last comment on censorship and the concept of freedom. I personally believe that people also have the right to not be offended or insulted. While it is true that we sometimes choose to be offended or insulted when that intention was not put into play, I believe there are times when that intention is quite clear without any ambiguity at all. It seems to me that freedom is a two way street. The needs of the person who expresses should, at some point, match the needs of the viewer or listener. One sided expression for the sole purpose of shock, offense, insult, or condescension is not much different than assault in my book. Just my opinion.” David
I am curious about your meaning by the use of the word ‘asasult ’.
Are you alluding to …...............perhaps…..........
A literary sense of ” An assault on the senses .” ?
Internet TROLLS ,insuluting you on this little site , and feeding on ’ OPINIONS ’ like flesh eating Zombies . ?
( nice metaphor , huh ? ) : )
Yet , if you place a ” legal ” intent as to imply a consequence , then you are perhaps correct in its ’ legality ” but incorrect by connecting it to censorship or so called ’ freedom” in relationship to the real world (not the net ) .
Here is a contemporary historical account :
Once a man saw injustice all around . he began to ‘freely express’ his ideas about this . he was jailed , warned , released . he continued to share his ideas and speak out. An ever widening sphere listened . he became known throughout his country . Officials came and said to him ” Listen ….. You are saying all these things just to shock and upset people . You are breaking the law and assaulting our very way of life . ” Then they put him in prison , yet he did not relent . One day things changed . Laws were abolished ,new ones written . After decades in prison , he was released . he was known, by this time ,throughout the world . he became the elected leader of his country .
He accomplished his goals while being deprived of personal freedom. He accomplished them by using the ‘free expressoin’ of his ideas . Not so called “freedom of speech” , which can be legislated , changed or eliminated by ‘legal ’ means .
Censorship is very complex and stratified across all cultures and societies . It is quite useful and benign at best ,but it can be used as a tool ( like propaganda ) for one group wishing to suppress or try to eliminate another.
And I would be totally cool with being ribbed, teased, looked at with odd glances, or even having people twirl their finger by their ear when I walk by :) as long as I was made fun of for using the correctly quoted word.
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
In regards to censorship, I don’t think it is all that complicated. I will be kicked out of any non-virtual establishment if I started randomly insulting individuals or spouting political or religious views that didn’t sit well with the owner of the establishment. I would probably do the same to anyone who came into my house if they couldn’t act with mutual respect. I don’t see how the civil liberties of freedom of speech imply that one can use this freedom everywhere they go, including private property (which, in the virtual world this is).
Now we can get very philosophical about it. And your points would probably be valid on that level. I only took exception to the sentence – “Why are members considered smart enough to vote on a freaking birdhouse contest ,but too freaking dumb to vote on censorship in this forum ?” Because it implied that anyone who respected the rules set out by the moderator lacked intelligence.
Unfortunately, these types of discussions very rarely generate any new thought or viewpoints because they are agenda based and often result in the twisting of words and meaning in order to prove a point. One of the reasons why I detest politics :)
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
Ive offed some points of view , opinions may even vary about that . I like philosophy , i am not concerned if my ‘points’ are considered valid , I may not agree with all of them myself . I am demonstrating a point of view ,not trying to pose points for a debate , although we all know how t he audience loves contention . I am more than happy to start a point -counter point with you , ,which you seem to be disdaining ,yet employing at the same instant .
You are right, I do tend to encourage continuation of discussions at the same time that I try to pull myself out of them :) I think the big thing for me is not to be agreed with but to at least be understood. When I feel that the meaning of what I write is being re-translated, I make further and further attempts to try to lay down what was intended. Unfortunately, this usually digs me a wider and deeper hole. I know better but at least I am consistent in this. They say the definition of insanity is the repetition of the same act expecting different results. I am repetitious and expect the same result, yet that result is not healthy for me. I definitely hope that is not the definition of sanity :)
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
That is why I like you David , you are very honest , and I share some of the same sentiments that you mentioned. Small world huh ? : ) I am glad you showed up here , I have some good stuff coming up on A.I. and robotics which should make for some interesting speculations about the future…...sanity is over rated JMO
Do you know the biggest failing of internet forums such as this?
The biggest cause of misunderstandings and arguments?
Words.
They are there in black and white, words, not communication. You wouldn’t know if the author had a smile on his face at the time of writing, because all it is is black letters on a white screen. No gestures, no intonations, no eye contact, just words that can go one way or another.
Ah, renners , When my expectations become ” too real “about the net , I like to indulge myself with a hot bubble bath , while reading the Journal of Behavioral Addictions by the light of flickering gilded Venetian candelabra .
Yes, words can be a hindrance. When the printing press was first created, it was considered an invention of the devil. I can spend 18 hours writing a thesis of emotional thought and be completed misunderstood, while one person can hold up one finger and get their point across with almost total clarity :)
Thanks for the comments moment. I never take our semi-debates personally. I do appreciate how you finalize them with kind words.
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
Have to ask Gene, in your piece above on cutting miters in a panel, why wouldn’t you just move the fence to the opposite side of the blade and cut your miter that way? Also what difference does a right tilt blade make? Mine tilts to the left. When I had to make the urn I just set the fence the correct distance from the blade and ran the panel over it. It isn’t something I would have ever thought was wrong and seemed the logical solution for me. I would see a need for your solution when trying to miter both sides the same, resulting in a rhombus, which results in the narrow edge of the one first side cut trying to wedge under the fence. But when making a trapezoid like in your picture there is no catching.
Russ, the catching is from vibration with no clearance; the back of the blade picks it up, gives it a quick buss on the cheek and then whips it back. All shapes catch.
When panels are cut to perfect size and then mitred it must be an outboard cut as dimensions are different for each piece. Still the same beautiful effect. We do it many days.
A right tilting saw suits a right handed person, that’s all. I’ve never queried my boss who is left handed when he uses the tool but he seems quite comfortable with it. To use the fence on the left is awkward to my muscles and a bit dangerous feeling at the same time. Left hand mitre gauge, same deal.
-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.
I must confess, Gene, that I sometimes stuff my words in my shoes when I get home for the day. Mostly for safe keeping and it makes them easier to find when I get up. You are right, you wouldn’t want them in your mouth.
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
Bro, bro, stop! don’t say those words!! . .
Insecure woman who berated her commitment-phobic boyfriend for years finally gets him to ruin his life to complete hers.
Now they seem like this to her….
But will come back like this to him….
This has been a public service announcement brought to you by the Polish proverb: “A bachelor and a dog can do anything.”
-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.
gene, I never knew that the misadventures of the heart could cause such bad dental problems . That guy needs to join Match. com , The women there are so well adjusted , and have absolutely no Baggage whatsoever ,it’s unbelievable . I could probably only afford to date on Doggie Match com . When you can serve your date dinner out of a bag ,.....that’s a cheap date ,....not a lot of conversation…...mostly body language ,that’s a plus . Then take my date back to the kennel to say ‘good night ’ ....which would be just a quiick kiss and a pat on the head , ..........unless the dog is Polish…....... I wouldn’t date a Polish dog because I heard that they will do anything .
I never do any research before posting on lumberjocks first, oh no, hang on, I mean I never post anything on lumberjocks without researching it first. So anyway, because lying isn’t allowed on the internet, I found out some pretty amazing facts about polish dogs. I love facts I do – and factoids, which are small pieces of fact.
Here is a picture of a Polish Dog. (fact) exhibit A – Polski Owczarek Nizinny or PON for short.
This one is called Lazski.
Incredibly, the Polish dog is made entirely from coarsely ground beef and venison, and is said to be way spicier than a regular dog. Maybe that is why they will do anything – pizza topping, sandwich filling, sliced diagonally and tossed in a salad, add it to a stew etc,... boil it, broil it, fry it, grill it…
I’m sure you will agree the Polish Dog is very versatile.
exhibit B – Batchelors, (Gene, you ought to get a new spellchecker [fact]).
I like Batchelors too. They are a nice shade of green which is nice and calming, and a tasty accompaniment to fish and chips, especially on Fridays. Or fish fingers and chips on every other day of the week. They also come in a tin with a ringpull, which would be handy in a post apocalyptic scenario such as the one depicted in the Mad Max films, especially if you could not find a tin opener. I have been stockpiling Batchelors since February 1997 for the end of the World, which as we know, is only a few days away now.
In conclusion to my exhaustive research, my quest for knowledge, I have found that some Batchelors and a Polish Dog can indeed do anything.
Does anyone know how I can get out of doing Jury service? I got the notice in the post the other day.
I wouldn’t mind if it was something interesting, like someone knocking off safety deposit boxes, or cash in transit vans, or someone poisoning their old Granny for an inheritance/payback etc. I’d really like to get one of those Eastern Europeans who according to my next door neighbour, robbed all the ducks out of the park.
But it won’t be anything interesting. I know it. Housewife up in front of the beak for talking on her mobile to someone she met on Match.com while driving. x 15. Send her down!
Batch it up , yo . And don;t skimp on them Fish Fingers and micro waved Chips and Mashy peas . Are those peas pre mashed or must one mashy them oneself ? and Katsup…....lots of katsup …...or nut butter .
Mushy peas are mushy straight out of the tin. Apparently, they bury the peas in a pit, urinate on them, and leave them over the winter to ferment before sending them to the cannery. Or that could be an Icelandic fish delicacy, I can’t remember which. Another interesting fact, mushy peas are green because they absorb light in the red and blue spectrum. Well maybe not the blue, but definitely red.
Renners – If they haven’t chosen the members yet, mention something about how you hope the case doesn’t take too long because you have to hurry home to comfort your brother who just separated. His wife met someone on match.com… That should do the trick.
-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.
@ David , did they bring back Political topics ? I’ve been gone awhile . There seems to be a really long one , chock full of name calling , who blocked who gambits and that other junk that is supposed to be banned .going on now . What gives ?
Very interesting case in the newspaper at the weekend. The man behind TetraPak®, who incidentally, is one of the wealthiest individuals in the world, found guilty of ‘preventing a lawful and decent burial’. The facts of the case are that the Wife died after binging on coca cola, and he couldn’t bear to be without her, so made a big Tetrapak® carton and kept her in that for a couple of months to keep her fresh.
TAKE HIM DOWN!
moment, I well believe the earth was seeded with factoidites from a passing comet composed of frozen facts. That is how, after billions of years of evolution, we have such a wide variety of facts on earth.
You missed the drawer slide debacle moment. A thread about drawer slides (wood v metal) that was so overheated MsDebbie had to erase it whilst holding her finger on the option key, so it could never, ever come back, ever – this is like the binary equivalent of using the button on the toilet with two dimples, for extra flushing power when you need it.
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