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Did not care for the Boeshield, so what wax would you recommend.

by TDog77
posted 742 days ago


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Grandpa

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#1 posted 742 days ago

Any wax will work if you avoid silicone. it is in many waxes. I like Johnson’s paste wax for floors.

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TDog77

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#2 posted 742 days ago

http://woodworking.rockler.com/search?asug=&w=paste+wax&Search.x=0&Search.y=0&Search=Submit

Things like this minwax and black bison are suitable too? it seems as though people are using these and the Johnsons on wood but no mention for tools. Should I be using more of an automobile wax that is silicone free for the machinery and paste wax for some of my jigs and such or will the paste work well for all? I am also curious how the application for metal goes.

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TDog77

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#3 posted 742 days ago

Just found a youtube video of paste wax on a table saw.

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knotscott

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#4 posted 742 days ago

Wood Mag conductive a fairly scientific methodical test of several rust preventive measures….T-9 worked better than any of them for rust prevention.

I’ve found that a very light coat of T-9 works best. I like to add Johnson’s paste wax on top of the T-9 as lubrication…..T-9 offers the benefit of being a rust inhibitor that wax alone doesn’t offer.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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david_larch

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#5 posted 742 days ago

Crazy timing. I just got my new T’S. I cleaned the table and wings with WD-40 then hit it with the boeshield. A day later I thought I must have done something wrong because it’s so sticky. I’m at a total loss as to why since I’ve also heard great things about the T-9.

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knotscott

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#6 posted 742 days ago

David – To be sure it’s not interacting, clean off the WD-40 with mineral spirits or methanol and let it dry. Spray on the T-9 and wipe it off, then let it dry, and buff it…..you should find that it’s not sticky any longer. Then apply the paste wax.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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SteveKorz

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#7 posted 742 days ago

I had issues with the T-9, also…. I just use Johnson paste wax for furniture, and it works great. I use T-9 for parts that I don’t want to rust that are under the table, etc, where it isn’t practical to apply paste wax.

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

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klassenl

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#8 posted 742 days ago

Topcote was recommended to me by my sales man so I bought some. It works quite well. The other day I was planing some old wood that seemed very wet still and with a good coat of this stuff it went from having to really push the wood through to sliding effortlessly. If I was a little more regular with spraying my tools I think it would work even better. ——>Not cheap!!

-- When questioned about using glue on a garbage bin I responded, "Wood working is about good technique and lots of glue........I have the glue part down."

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Kindlingmaker

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#9 posted 742 days ago

I use Johnson’s Floor Paste Wax and has protected my iron surfaces very well. I too live in a rather dry area of the western US and use the wax on my jointer, tablesaw, bands saws, planner, drill presses router table and most bench tops. With Johnson’s Wax my sleds and jigs glide accross the tables and beds with finger tip ease; the wax also protects well. The cost is less than $4.00.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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syenefarmer

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#10 posted 742 days ago

+1 on the Bostik TopCote followed up by a coat of Johnson’s Paste Wax.

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david_larch

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#11 posted 742 days ago

Well I feel goofy for not thinking of getting the WD-40 off with mineral spirits. Thanks, knottscott I am going to try that today.

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Florida_Jim

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#12 posted 742 days ago

I’ve used Johnsons for over forty years. Why mess with success?

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MrRon

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#13 posted 742 days ago

I don’t care for Boeshield either. I use a pure Carnuba wax.

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DannyB

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#14 posted 741 days ago

If you leave too thick a coat of T-9 on to dry, it will be quite sticky, exactly as you describe.
It is not much of a lubricant past a very thin film thickness.

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derosa

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#15 posted 741 days ago

turtle wax. Seems free cans of the stuff just appears out of no where. I don’t have any rust issues in a non-climate controlled shop and no rust. Just have to watch how fast the first few boards slide after application.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Tomj

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#16 posted 741 days ago

W-d 40 has silicone in it, I just use Johnsons Pastewax. I’ve tried Minwax paste but it was too hard. I have also heard this paint thinner stuff Penetrol works well to protect cast iron but I myself have not tried it yet. I would try it on something small first. Good luck.

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NiteWalker

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#17 posted 741 days ago

I use T9 with no problems. Like others said, the key is a light coat. I spray it on, wipe off, then paste wax. Buttery smoove.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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TDog77

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#18 posted 741 days ago

Really surprised to see how many others have not liked T-9. In response to the light coat comments I would consider what I did to be a pretty light coat with an immediate wiping with a towel to even the surface and lighten the coat even further. No thanks as it has failed my criteria with being too picky and not keeping the surface thick at all. It looks like from the suggestions I will pick up some paste wax, perhaps carnuba or Johnsons. When I mentioned this at one of my stores when we were shooting the breeze (he sells T-9) he said he does not like the stuff either but instead uses a wax called Renaissance and swears by it up and down. I hope all of you are not getting the idea that this is a big deal to me because it is not, just a minor irritation and money not well spent but fortunately there are a lot of good choices out there and a even more good advice especially is you come here.

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NBeener

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#19 posted 741 days ago

Tomj: a minor correction….

”While the ingredients in WD-40 are secret, we can tell you what WD-40 does NOT contain. WD-40 does not contain silicone, kerosene, water, wax, graphite, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or any known cancer-causing agents.”

-- -- Neil

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Rex B

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#20 posted 741 days ago

If you watch the Wood Whisperer’s video on bandsaw setup he goes over his rust prevention steps on a cast iron tabletop. It involves using T-9 for protection and then a layer of paste wax for lubrication. I have used this method on my tablesaw with great results so far. T-9 is proven to be a great product for rust protection, but its claims of lubrication seem a bit overstated on its own without some sort of wax coat on top.

-- Rex

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knotscott

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#21 posted 741 days ago

You’re all free to do what you like with your tools, but I want to reiterate than wax does not generally contain any components that prevent rust formation. It does help prevent moisture from contacting the cast iron, which in turn reduces rust formation, but a rust preventer of some sort plus a wax lubrication offer superior protection to wax alone.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....


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