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Home Made Table Taw

by RandyM68
posted 839 days ago


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 839 days ago

Very cool and innovative.

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robbiethewood

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#2 posted 839 days ago

cool very nicely made

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BobM001

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#3 posted 839 days ago

That box joint jig is pure genius!

-- OK, who's the wise guy that shrunk the plywood?

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Rick Dennington

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#4 posted 839 days ago

I doubt that it would be better than my 5 hp. Unisaw….it has the bells and whistles, but no sliding table, which I probably don’t need…....that thing is a beast…...!!!!

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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KOVA

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#5 posted 839 days ago

ME MY FRIEND: RandyM68, AS MENTIONED ABOVE, WE SHOW THE HOME-MADE TABLE-SAW THAT PUBLISHED HERE http://lumberjocks.com/projects/64114#comment-1227579 AND WE ASSURE THAT THESE ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTIONS, can work very well

-- KOVA, EL CARPINTERO DEL PUEBLO https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Carpintero-Del-Pueblo/148976618479733

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Loren

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#6 posted 839 days ago

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RandyM68

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#7 posted 839 days ago

That is a nice sliding table, Loren. I looks better than most of the commercial ones. I read the comments too. They were pretty funny. Why is the sled not closer to the blade? Where are the miter slots? Why didn’t you build a crosscut sled like everybody else? Most of them came from people who probably couldn’t build a bookshelf without step-by-step instructions, and a measured drawing, but he did it wrong? I don’t argue with Einstein’s math, either. I know that shit’s way over my head.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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Viktor

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#8 posted 839 days ago

Check this one too. DIY sliding table saw and build process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHS1xwdEWdw
Some drawings and comments (in french)
http://www.metabricoleur.com/t109-un-chariot-a-format-maison

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Loren

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#9 posted 839 days ago

I read an article a while back about this master furniture maker
(I saw his stuff and it was at the wow! level, Queen Anne
and Federal I think). He used a table saw he had built
in the 1930s or 40s. He used steel rip or planer blades
he sharpened himself – no carbide. Since his work was all
in solid wood he didn’t see much point in making clean
cuts with his wood-topped table saw. After cutting his
boards he would let them move, then fix the edges.

He did have a point. His work would sell for a lot of money
but his machines were primitive.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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KOVA

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#10 posted 838 days ago

*THIS CARPENTER OF SPAIN, DID THE SAME AS ON THE LINK OF VIKTOR BUT USING PLYWOOD!!! http://woodgears.ca/reader/contreras/index.html

-- KOVA, EL CARPINTERO DEL PUEBLO https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Carpintero-Del-Pueblo/148976618479733

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KOVA

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#11 posted 838 days ago

http://woodgears.ca/dads_shop/homemade_tablesaw.html LOREN: DO NOT MISS THIS TABLE-SAW, rudimentary ;-)

-- KOVA, EL CARPINTERO DEL PUEBLO https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Carpintero-Del-Pueblo/148976618479733

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RandyM68

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#12 posted 838 days ago

Here’s a simple one if you’re in a hurry. It looks like the rip fence will stay where you put it.

I built a router table one time that was about that simple. I hung a router under a sheet of plywood, and screwed one or two 1×6s down for fences. I worked pretty good. I don’t know where else you could even buy a 4’x8’ router table, much less one where you could fences, guides, stops, and feather boards anywhere on the table.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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zachmc

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#13 posted 838 days ago

I don’t understand why you would want to spend your time building a tablesaw. Really, what is the point?

-- Zach M, Michigan, http://www.mccallumcabinetry.com

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RandyM68

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#14 posted 838 days ago

Zach, we do it because we can. Anyone can drop five grand on a table saw, that does all the tricks. That doesn’t impress me at all. It doesn’t mean that you can do better work with it, any more than buying a Ferrari makes you a better driver. Building one out of the junk pile, that works better than anything I could hope to afford, does impress me. I would love to have a sliding table on my saw, and I can’t buy one that will just bolt on, even if money was no object. I can throw away a perfectly good saw, and spend two or three thousand on a good slider, or I can build my own table exactly the way I want it. I’m not scared.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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lieutenantdan

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#15 posted 838 days ago

Is it termite proof?? No riving knife??

-- "Of all the things I have lost in life, I miss my mind the most."

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Loren

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#16 posted 838 days ago

Lots of people who’ve done it did so because they lived in
countries or times when machinery was really hard to get
for them or was so costly in relation to the strength of the
local money that they were inspired to improvise.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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KOVA

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#17 posted 837 days ago

zachmc: IF YOU SAY YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PUNT OF THIS ISSUE IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN THE WORK TO SEE THE LINKS TO READ WHAT THEY SAY THE AUTHORS OF VARIED PROJECTS PUBLISHED RANDY: I SEE IN SUMMARY OF LITTLE INTEREST IN YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT’S HOME-MADE AND I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, buy a TABLE-SAW SOME OF WE will build it and be happy ;-)))))))

-- KOVA, EL CARPINTERO DEL PUEBLO https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Carpintero-Del-Pueblo/148976618479733

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RandyM68

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#18 posted 837 days ago

Dan, I think a man who has enough snap to build a table saw from scratch, could have a riving knife if he wants one. I took the one off of my Delta, because it is attached to the guard. Both are usually in the way, and I’m not going to put it back on every time I want to rip a board. If termites become a problem, I’ll slip the Orkin man a few bucks to spray my saw, too.
Loren, it’s not just about economy or necessity. Some people want something that you can’t just go out and buy. Sometimes, to get what you want, you have to do it yourself. These are the innovators. They come up with the new ideas, and years later, some factory mass produces it. If you are satisfied with what everyone else has, that’s fine, but I like to be different.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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Loren

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#19 posted 837 days ago

I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I built a rather complex panel
saw for my own use. I owned others before and was unsatisfied
with various aspects of their operation and capacity so I built
a custom solution.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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ShipWreck

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#20 posted 837 days ago

It is amazing what people come up with. That is a really cool setup RandyM.

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RandyM68

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#21 posted 837 days ago

Welcome back, Shipwreck. We missed you.

Loren, I know you are one of the guys with an imagination. Most people just settle for what they can buy off the shelf. If they do try to build their own, they have to have a published plan, so they can try to make an identical copy of someone else’s work. That requires about as much talent as paint-by-numbers. It may look like the Mona Lisa from across the room, but it’s still only and inferior imitation. These are the people who squeal the loudest, about it being different. If they can’t understand it, it must be wrong. Fortunately, we don’t have to wait on these people, to come up with the new ideas. It would probably never happen.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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Viktor

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#22 posted 837 days ago

Here is another one:
http://woodgears.ca/reader/hector/tablesaw.html

“I don’t understand why you would want to spend your time building a tablesaw. Really, what is the point?”
Zach, I am asking myself the same question. Why am I doing woodworking? I could just buy all this stuff.

Vonhagen’s saw (Loren’s link) was posted here on Lumberjocks. He went in length to explain why he built it.

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RandyM68

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#23 posted 836 days ago

Excellent point,Viktor. It is much easier, and more often cheaper to buy a chair, than it is to build one. Why are we even here?

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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stefang

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#24 posted 836 days ago

Some folks are good at building power tools, so why not? I’m not, so I buy mine.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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Ricardo Luis Sant'Anna

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#25 posted 836 days ago

Como siempre, un trabajo maravilloso Kova. Si me permites, voy a escribir en Inglés.

As always, a wonderful work, Kova. If you don´t mind, I’ll write in English. I know I’m new around here, so I hope you’ll allow me to say some words about this.

Not everybody has the same financial or technical capabilities around the world. In some parts of the planet people have to rely on their ingenuity and skills to make tools that are taken for granted in other countries. I don´t want to say that Kova is poor, or that Argentina is a third world country, but priorities are different and mentalities are different.

For instance, in my case: I’m 40 years old, living in Portugal and I’m unemployed. I worked for 20 years in Portuguese EMS and lost my job because of health problems. Woodworking is my passion, and the reason for being able to keep a glimpse of hope and sanity, but i cannot afford to buy tools. I also built my home table saw, along with other electric and manual tools. And why? because in Portugal, these kind of tools are expensive, even the lousy ones. I need my earned savings in other things, i have other priorities. Even if i could afford to buy a machine, what about service and parts? It’s not like in the USA.

Am I a fool? Am I completely nuts?

Well, i don’t think so. As i said i worked 20 years in a very demanding environment, not only physically but also intellectual. I a EMS Instructor for the last 15 years and worked also as a safety inspector on tunneling and bridge environments- I was also a private pilot… At this age, I’m studying Roman and Medieval history in the Iberian Peninsula. With this, I mean I know better than anyone the risks of building this kind of machines and the danger in their operation.

Basically, what i want to say is that we understand the danger, but we have other mentalities, other way of life. I don´t know if better or worse, but we cannot live in fear. The simple fact of using this kind of machine makes us a lot more careful and attentive than using a modern machine, theoretically more secure… Table stop technology, for example is great, but… whats next, a woodworking robot? We design the “beast”. We know why it works and how it works. We know how to fix the problems and we can improve them easily. It’s OUR baby. My table is in constant mutation. A new fix here, a new safety design there…

Please, think twice when you ask questions like “I don’t understand why you would want to spend your time building a tablesaw. Really, what is the point?” or say things like “Is it termite proof?? No riving knife??”. I’m afraid of posting here exactly because of receiving these kind of comments. Constructive and learning opinions? YES PLEASE! The other type? No thanks, my life sucks enough. I know it’s hard for a lot of you to understand, but i dream of the day i can have half of the manual tools i see in your pictures, no matter how old they are,

I’ll keep learning with Kova, and a lot of you, whose love and passion for woodworking has no barriers.

Thank you.

-- Ricardo Sant'Anna

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RandyM68

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#26 posted 836 days ago

Welcome Ricardo. That was an excellent comment. Don’t worry about what these other guys say. A lot of them act like they are afraid of tools. I see so many comments about safety that it is ridiculous. I wonder how they can get anything done. People, in general, are scared of anything new. Most of them have no imagination, either. We will just keep doing what we do, and they will keep trying to figure out why. I’m not here to make them happy, anyway.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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wildbill001

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#27 posted 836 days ago

After pricing saws recently and seeing what they lack that I’d like to have, I’ve been seriously thinking about building one. This couldn’t have come at a better time.

THANKS for posting this !

Bill W

-- "You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their back" -- Unknown

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knotscott

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#28 posted 836 days ago

Pretty amazing stuff….very clever execution!

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