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Saw stop issue with material drift

by Dan
posted 04-04-2012 12:57 AM


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 04-04-2012 02:11 AM

Have you checked your saw blade?

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#2 posted 04-04-2012 02:36 AM

my old craftsman table saw does that as well…..I’ve always wondered why! I’ll be watching – hopefully you (we) can get some answers!

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#3 posted 04-04-2012 02:59 AM

The source is either misalignment of your saw or tension in
your wood stock. Your blade may be heeling. Your riving
knife may be off. The face of your fence may be curved.
Your reference edge may be bowed. Your fence may be
deflecting. Your assessment of fence parallelism may be
inaccurate.

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#4 posted 04-04-2012 03:16 AM

Very good possibility the riving knife is misaligned, pulling the stock away from the fence … one possibility (that I don’t necessarily recommend) would be to make a few test cuts with the riving knife removed.

Another (less likely) possibility would be a warped/bent fence.

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#5 posted 04-04-2012 12:35 PM

I would think if the riving knife was off, you couldn’t get the wood past it. I would check your stock. It sounds like tension wood.

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#6 posted 04-04-2012 12:38 PM

The riving knife is off.

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#7 posted 04-04-2012 03:20 PM

+2 on the riving knife not aligned

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#8 posted 04-04-2012 03:30 PM

I have a PCS too. I had the same issue too when I started out.
I’m going to venture a guess that you have too much pressure on the feather board and that always causes the workpiece to want to drift away from the fence.

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#9 posted 04-04-2012 08:24 PM

Read Lorens post again, the answer is there.

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#10 posted 04-04-2012 08:38 PM

It could be anything Loren mentioned. But a couple of test cute without the riving knife could quickly determine whether or not the the problem is there. That’s the first thing I would try.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 04-04-2012 08:53 PM

Sounds like the riving knife to me too.Check with a series of cuts aligning the riving knife laterally each way.If it gets worse move it back more, til it cuts perfect.Alistair

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#12 posted 04-04-2012 08:53 PM

Have a SawStop PCS too but have not had that problem. Do you get different results if you use the splitter/blade guard instead of the riving knife?

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#13 posted 04-04-2012 09:10 PM

Where do you position the push stick? Loren’s suggestions can all cause this problem, but it’s also possible that you’re “steering” workpiece away from the fence because of where you’re positioning the push stick. Ideally, the push force should be directly in line with the blade. When it isn’t, you can introduce a bit of lateral force which wants to “steer” the workpiece. The further your force is “off-line” the more pronounced the lateral force.

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Sarit

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#14 posted 04-04-2012 09:40 PM

You have to approach this systematically. Test each theory until you find the culprit.

First raise your blade and move your fence to it so its just a paper’s thickness away from the sides of the teeth and lock down the fence. Is the gap the same all around? Is the riving knife touching the fence (it shouldn’t be). Repeat this on the other side of the blade.

If that’s not an issue, put a straight edge against the fence and look for gaps. If you see gaps, slide the straight edge back and forth and see if the gap moves w/ the straight edge (ie curved straight edge) or with the fence (ie curved fence).

Still not it? Then take a wide board (make sure its straight by sliding it against the fence as in the prev step) and without the riving knife, without the featherboard, try nibbling off one edge with a push block like this: http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/313/313-pushblock.pdf
I try to position my push block closer to the blade than to the fence. That helps to counteract the resistance that the blade makes which will try to make the workpiece drift away from the fence.

Is it curved? If not, then try adding in the riving knife and repeat the last step.

Still not curved, try adding the featherboard.

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Dan

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#15 posted 04-04-2012 10:22 PM

Thank you all for your response. I am guessing it is the splitter and will take a look tonight. I will get back to you with my findings.

-- Will work for wood...

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Dan

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#16 posted 04-05-2012 12:22 AM

Ok so I made some adjustments to the splitter and it looks like that solved the problem. It also helped remove burm marks. The splitter wander parallel to the blade causing the material to push itself away from the fence as soon as it hit the end of the splitter which was actually outside of the blade kerf. Thank you all for the suggestions.

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#17 posted 04-05-2012 01:26 AM

glad to hear you got it solved!

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#18 posted 04-05-2012 06:38 AM

I have heard about this sort of thing quite a bit. People always check the leading edge of their splitter/riving knife but ther rear edge can be angled away or towards the fence and cause issues. Glad you found it and hopefully others can benefit from your search. I learn a bunch from hearing how others solve problems.

-- Tom Hintz, www.newwoodworker.com

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