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What do you use to clean table saw blades?

by bondogaposis
posted 916 days ago


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Howie

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#1 posted 916 days ago

Soak them in Simple Green(caution some people say this effects the carbide) Trend Products makes a very good cleaner, CMT same. Probably whatever your local supplier has will work just fine. A brass bristle brush will help.

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TheDane

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#2 posted 916 days ago

Bondo—Some will suggest oven cleaner … don’t do it. The oven cleaners you find on the shelf at the local super market have corrosive agents that can weaken the welds on the carbide tips. My neighbor used to use Easy Off, which is probably how he wound up with a 78-tooth blade (2 teeth went missing).

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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joey bealis

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#3 posted 916 days ago

We always used lacquer thinner and a scotch brite when I was working in cabinet shops.

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HorizontalMike

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#4 posted 916 days ago

Dawn dish washing liquid and a tooth brush, after soaking less than 5min. They come out perfect, so I still have my can of “professional” blade cleaner sitting on the shelf. That stuff hurt my lungs and hands as well. IMO, most of these “specific blade cleaners” were/are an unneeded market niche created for the unknowing. But then again, that is just my 2-cents…

BTW, I do like using Dricote blade lubricant. Works well on blades AND drill bits.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Gene Howe

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#5 posted 916 days ago

I’ve used dish washing soap or 409. Like the 409 because the sprayer is handy and There’s really no need to rinse after cleaning. Brass brush for stubborn stuff and a clean rag to clean off the mess.
I found a blade lube stick at Rockler that seems to keep the blade cleaner, too. Dunno, it just seems like it does.
I’ve used dry Coat, too. When I ran out I bought the stick. I think both work well.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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JamesVavra

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#6 posted 916 days ago

I once read a very good article on the oven cleaner / carbide brasing myth. I wish I still had a link. Basically, the meat was unless you soak your blades in oven cleaner for months at a time, there is no detrimental effect.

I spray mine with oven cleaner on both sides, and then attack it with an old toothbrush. Total scrubbing takes less than 5 minutes, and then I rinse it off in the sink.

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Viking

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#7 posted 916 days ago

Simple Green Pro (purple) available at Home Depot.

-- Rick Gustafson - Lost Creek Ranch - Colorado County, Texas

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Uncle_Salty

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#8 posted 916 days ago

Dawn and warm water… And a brass cleaning brush. I have used lacquer thinner in the past, but then you have to get rid of the thinner… But it does work well!

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yank

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#9 posted 916 days ago

I don’t really see a need to clean my blades. I cut oak, maple, walnut and poplar. My blades all appear to be clean and work fine.
I cut pine maybe once or twice a year and very little of that. ..

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knotscott

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#10 posted 916 days ago

There is most definitely a need.

Whatever spray degreaser you have around the house should work just fine….409, Fantastic, Goo Gone, Greased Lightning, LA’s Totally Awesome. Spray it on, brush the teeth, rinse and dry…done in 3 or 4 minutes. Oven cleaner is messier and more caustic, and can cause coatings to come off…there are some many other methods that work, I don’t bother with it anymore.

The important thing is to clean them, regardless of what you use. A dirty blade will perform like a dull blade, and will actually cause dulling from the excess heat.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Radu

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#11 posted 916 days ago

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Bill White

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#12 posted 916 days ago

Arm & Hammer WASHING SODA (not baking soda) if ya can find it. Simple Green otherwise.
Bill

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Dallas

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#13 posted 916 days ago

Bill, Washing soda is sodium carbonate and baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. You can make sodium carbonate by heating baking soda in a 305°F oven for about a half hour.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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bondogaposis

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#14 posted 916 days ago

Ok, I just cleaned my blades using what I had on hand, dish liquid and little ammonia. A little scrubbing w/ toothbrush and they cleaned up nicely thanks for the tips everyone.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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RH913

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#15 posted 916 days ago

Diluted Ammonia soak?

-- RALPH

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blackcherry

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#16 posted 916 days ago

Lestoil work great and is very inexpensive. One cap of Lestoil then submerge blade in warm water for 5min. and wipe clean. No chemicals, no harsh vapor just a sparkling clean blade.

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doordude

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#17 posted 916 days ago

trend and ovenoff. how is a cleaner going soften a weld on a tooth. i’ve been using ovenoff for 25 years,no problems.

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thedude50

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#18 posted 915 days ago

simply the best thing to use for your saw blades is the Trend tool and bit cleaner it is non toxic it wont hurt you in any way you can buy it in up to 5 gallon cans and even 55 gallon drums it cleans and protects it is better than any of the cleaners on the market often I use this to restore planes as it emulsify s rust and a brush will remove surface rust on really tough rust i use it with a scotch brite green kitchen pad it doesn’t destroy the metal it is by far the best cleaner out there it is fairly cheep and your blades wont rust PS do not put your blades in dish soap and water it causes corrosion

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knotscott

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#19 posted 915 days ago

”simply the best thing to use for your saw blades is the Trend tool and bit cleaner….it is better than any of the cleaners on the market…it is by far the best cleaner out there.”

Dude, that’s a mighty strong statement….terrific if true. We all have opinions, but there are very few things in this industry that stand head and shoulders above the competition. While I don’t doubt that it has worked well for you and that you’re pleased, I’m curious if the statement is truly credible. Have you seriously tried all of the cleaners on the market with some remotely objective methodology, or is this more realistically the best you’ve tried so far , and just a very enthusiastic recommendation?

Forgive my skepticism, but in God We Trust, all others bring data. ;-) Seriously, I don’t mean to sound like I’m picking on you, but am trying to understand what’s behind the statement….fact or jubilant opinion….both are acceptable so long as we know the difference.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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thedude50

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#20 posted 915 days ago

for a upcoming article we tested over ten cleaners this one was head and shoulders above the rest for many reasons first it is safe many of the competitions cleaners are chalked full of warnings not to inhale or even to where a respirator when using or do not inhale the fumes etc etc while many of them did a good job on blades and router bits for sap removal they were not good at corrosion removal nor were they safe to put your hands in the Trend Product is used in saw mills to clean the blade there they buy it in barrels and the product is different than orange based cleaners too they can etch the steel and are not desired this was not a single opinion it was tested in both of our shops and it was a easy choice to be the best it worked the best by far watch this ad it is full of great information

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knotscott

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#21 posted 915 days ago

Thanks for the info…I’m a tad curious and intrigued by the versatility.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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thedude50

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#22 posted 915 days ago

where do you live if your close ill give you a sample

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knotscott

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#23 posted 915 days ago

I’m in Rochester, NY. Thanks, but it’s not expensive enough to be cost prohibitive.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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stefang

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#24 posted 915 days ago

I keep mine clean by rubbing them at speed between two pieces of wood, lol.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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HorizontalMike

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#25 posted 915 days ago

Wow, a surfactant… Isn’t that what soap does as well…

And as far as being a rust inhibitor, all of my saw blades and drill bits are high/higher quality steel and don’t rust in any real sense/time anyway. My dishwashing liquid costs less than a couple pennies per application. I just can’t see paying $99.95 for 12 for small-bottles for a non-problem. This is just marketing hype for the gullible, IMO.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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buffalosean

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#26 posted 914 days ago

I agree with The dane, some cleaners like oven cleaners have an array of chemical compounds in them. I’d be damn sure they are not caustic/corrosive before putting them on my blades, or simply stay away from anything that is potentially caustic/corrosive.

-- There are many ways to skin a cat...... but, the butter knife is not recommended

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RussellAP

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#27 posted 913 days ago

Simple carosine bath will do the trick. Let them soak. Shines them up too.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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RussellAP

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#28 posted 913 days ago

Oven cleaner contains lye which is a corrosive acid. I don’t think it’s good for anything not even cleaning ovens.

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Tokolosi

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#29 posted 913 days ago

Thats why I dont eat olives. Any fruit that has to be soaked in lye before its edible is suspect in my book.

-- “There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something. You certainly usually find something, if you look, but it is not always quite the something you were after.” ~ JRR Tolkien

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Kenny

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#30 posted 913 days ago

The flat out, hands down, no questions asked BEST saw blade, router bit and damn near anything else cleaner you are going to find is Krud Kutter.

I use the “Multi-Purpose” concentrate, and it’s just awesome. One little 3oz dixie cup to a spray bottle and you can watch the crud melt off your blades when you start to spray them down. This stuff is just incredible!

I will admit that I’ve gotten a bit lazy though. I now have a large tupperware that I keep about half full and just plop my blades in for about 5 minutes, pull it out, rinse it, blow it off and it’s good as new. It’s really that easy, no scrubbing necessary (unless you’ve really abused your blade and scorched it badly, or let it go for over a year without cleaning it)

I’ve also used the straight up Krud Kutter (non-cencentrate), and it’s just as good.

I will put $20 down that Krud Kutter is as good or better than the best commercial blade cleaner on the market, and it’s a LOT cheaper! I paid $10 for my gallon of concentrate over a year ago, and I still have half a gallon. And I use it for a lot more than just saw blades. Heck, my girl keeps a bottle under the sink in the kitchen now too (filled from my gallon). She says it’s the best cleaner she’s ever seen.

If you really want to pay Trend $20 for that dinky little bottle, be my guest! I’ll stick with Krud Kutter!

-- Kenny

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Kenny

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#31 posted 913 days ago

TheDude50,

Sorry, but your “Trend” is about to go out of style, and fast!

Krud Kutter is just the way to go, no questions asked. I am 100% confident Trend will NOT perform any better in a 5 minute soak than Krud Kutter.

How am I so confident in this statement? Because I’ve seen both of them side-by-side. And Trend just is not worth the outrageous price they charge for it. It is really no better. And maybe not even as good as Krud Kutter.

Sorry, just the facts.

-- Kenny

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usnret

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#32 posted 913 days ago

I have used baking soda in water and the blade had to soak for 4+ hours and then I just wiped it clean. I now use Lestoil. Costs about $5 a bottle and you can reuse it over and over until it is really dirty. Just let the blade soak about 5-10 min and the I scrub with a plstic bristle brushwhich takes about 1 min. After that i just rinse under warm water and then dry. When dry spray with WD-40 and wipe it down good. I already have WD-40 in my garage for obvious reasons and the lestoil is cheap and can be easily found at Ace Hardware. Cheap effective and has been tested in Shop Notes. As for other cleaners I dont know how well they work.
As for Trend cleaner well I ll keep my money.

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exelectrician

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#33 posted 913 days ago

I use dawn in an ultrasonic cleaning tank – just rips the crud off!

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David Grimes

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#34 posted 913 days ago

Lye (sodium hydroxide) is a base… the total opposite of acid. It is slick and nasty to wash off if you get any on you or anything else. Many of the oven cleaners are base (not acid). They work.

Nothing (chemically) will undo heat or mechanical / physical damage already done to a blade.

For blade cleaning (removal of buildup from the wood that they cut), it is no wonder that the degreaser / detergent / surfactant type cleaners do so well.

I use Simple green and Krud Cutter with a pressure washer rinse… JUST because that’s what I have on hand and I hate to scrub sharp things when 0 degree pressure tip takes seconds. They work. I’ll try Dawn next time (which I always have on hand as well).

BTW… Thanks for the Dri-Cote tip, Mike. I have heard of the Top-cote (I use the Top Saver), but not of the Dri-cote until now. Ordered already.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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NiteWalker

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#35 posted 913 days ago

I use the rockler blade and bit cleaner.
Full strength, pour the used cleaner back in the bottle. My bottle is 5+ years old and still works great.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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thedude50

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#36 posted 913 days ago

I will go get a bottle of crud cutter and add it to the tests we have been doing but it will have to both clean and protect and be bio degradable to come close to Trend it must also remove rust and it must be safe on your hands. this stuff is not intended for blade care so we didn’t test it but the test isn’t over and the test is not about cheapest it is about best

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mmax

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#37 posted 913 days ago

Purple Power, it is sold in the automotive section @ Walmart. Spray on brush off and rinse. Cleans a blade in less than a minute.

-- Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else

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knotscott

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#38 posted 913 days ago

This is starting to sound like a “tastes great”, “less filling” debate.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Richard Dunlap

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#39 posted 913 days ago

I read somewhere a quote from the owner of Simple Green. He said the Simple Green Pro was good but not to use the original as it could damage the blades.

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buffalosean

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#40 posted 913 days ago

kenny,

I’ll have to try the krud cutter.

By the way, that is not lazy to keep your cleaner [ready] in the tupperware. Your method is convenient & faster. The best part is you are not wasteful and you are maximizing the cleaners potential.

-- There are many ways to skin a cat...... but, the butter knife is not recommended

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Kenny

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#41 posted 913 days ago

TheDude50,

This is about CLEANING. Why not just compare the products on results? I understand and agree about harsh chemicals, though I think some of your “requirements” go into territory that is simply irrelevant for a product used to clean a saw-blade.
Biodegradable, rust removing and nice on your hands? Really?

But I still stand my ground, Krud Kutter is the best available. It’s non-toxic, biodegradable, and it will remove oxidation.
My girlfriend has very sensitive skin, and Krud Kutter does not effect her, so I’m sure it’s safe on hands. I suffer with dry skin on my hands, and I have not noticed any bad side-effects either.

I anxiously await your testing results. I think you’ll be a bit surprised.

-- Kenny

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#42 posted 913 days ago

I have used washing soda and goof off and they both work fine the goof off is quicker but I don’t like the smell.

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#43 posted 913 days ago

I have been using Rubbermaid Orange Cleaner & Degreaser. The label says it is commercial grade (whatever that is).

I bought a gallon a couple of years ago to clean the gunk they put on new tools to protect the cast iron on the boat over from Asia. It lasts forever, and does a great job.

I spray enough on to get the blade wet, then use an old toothbrush to scrub the crud off, and rinse under cold water. Takes about 30 seconds to get a 10” blade clean as a whistle!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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George

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#44 posted 913 days ago

I have a bottle of krud cutter in my garage. I’ll give it a try on my blades. Thanks! I would have never thought of using that. It works great on most everything else I’ve used it for.

-- I did measure it twice, it's still too short.

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David Grimes

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#45 posted 913 days ago

Krud Kutter is non-toxic and bio-degradable. Hell, it even says “Earth Friendly” on the label.

I checked with some of my North Korean friends to find out what they use over there, but I’m having a hard time understanding the reply:

“The so needy North uses same superior liquid for blades to sharp as to clean green color from printing presses. Sun dries the littler fatboy turds made from His Twinkie diet, then crushes with fist of iron to carry them to forrow yerrow brick road.”

I don’t know…

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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knotscott

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#46 posted 913 days ago

I checked with some of my North Korean friends to find out what they use over there, but I’m having a hard time understanding the reply:

“The so needy North uses same superior liquid for blades to sharp as to clean green color from printing presses. Sun dries the littler fatboy turds made from His Twinkie diet, then crushes with fist of iron to carry them to forrow yerrow brick road.”

Busted a gut over that David! LOL….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Kenny

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#47 posted 913 days ago

I think I pulled a muscle laughing! Oh my god, that is too funny.

The first part was almost understandable, but fatboy turds and twinkies?

I’ll stick to Krud Kutter!

-- Kenny

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#48 posted 913 days ago

I’ve used 409 and steel wool on top of a piece of plywood that we only used for cleaning blades. Just be careful since I sliced my knuckles open doing this on more than one occasion.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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