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At what point do I bite the bullet and buy a jointer and planer?

by BTimmons
posted 926 days ago


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 926 days ago

If you intend to do woodworking long term I would defiantly invest in a planner first and maybe later a jointer.
Just a lunch box planner is better than no planner.

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#2 posted 926 days ago

Brian,
I don’t know where I’d be without my jointer. I use it every day. After looking at your jewelry box, you are definitely going places with your woodworking skills. Here’s why I love the jointer: I always buy rough lumber. First step in milling is to get a flat edge and at least one flat side, then off to one of the saws. If I want to edge join some boards for cabinet sides, shelves, a door ,etc back to the jointer for a perfect glue joint. If you want to run a board through the planer, you’d better have on flat side or it will be a bit of a challenge. Get a jointer and you will never regret the decision.
Best of luck to you…....

-- cathyb, Hawaii, www.cathyswoodworking.com

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#3 posted 925 days ago

If you are going to continue into any kind of finer woodworking projects you will probably need both so start saving now.

Buying the rough lumber is cheaper and offers more alternatives than the big box stores.

I bought a planer first, because it was on sale at an unbelievable price, but within 2 months I had to get the jointer.

Makes a world of difference to have flat, square, and dimensioned boards to work with.

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#4 posted 925 days ago

I found a nice 6” jointer on craigslist, not one with a lot of features but it was the right price. At the time I had access to a friend’s planer, so the jointer is what I needed. I constantly see used power tools online, some items are barely used, pull together a wad of cash and watch the sites, you might get a good deaL.

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#5 posted 925 days ago

Planer first, then a jointer once you can afford the luxury.

You can flatten one side with the router jig as mentioned, and even edge joint with a router.
I’m buying my first planer in the beginning of february; my jointer will probably come early summer.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#6 posted 925 days ago

I got lucky. When I first started out I got an amazing deal on a barely used jointer and planer. I couldn’t live without them.

Anyone who wants to do serious woodworking MUST have them both. Even store bought boards aren’t perfectly flat. And you pay a big premium for it over what it costs to buy rough stock. And consider the fact that those machines open up an entire new source of great wood you couldn’t use before, like splitting up firewood and milling it yourself to make small boards, etc.

Like has been mentioned above, a planer can do some flattening if you make a sled for it, but it is a real pain to do that. However a planer will do BOTH sides of the board, while a jointer will only do ONE side, so if you have to buy only one right now, buy the planer. But get a jointer as soon as you can. And don’t get a small bench top one, they are useless for all but edge jointing. Get a 6” model (larger ones like 8-12” are a LOT more expensive).

Of course, if you only do a modest amount of woodworking, you can also get buy with a good jointing plane. You can even start out with an antique wooden one for less than $40.

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#7 posted 925 days ago

I’m pretty much stuck buying S2S from my local dealer (they don’t carry rough stock), but even at that I have to re-flatten the faces, which is a real bummer since I loose even more thickness. I’m usually lucky to end up with 0.7” out of 4/4 stock. So, even if your buying S4S, it helps your projects a lot to be able to really flatten and square up stock.

I would agree planer first. One thing to think about first is how much you like working with hand tools. If you’re into it, and think you may prefer hand planing, you might be able to pass on the jointer. But hand planing to thickness is a lot of extra time and effort, and I think well worth the cost of the planer.

-- John

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#8 posted 925 days ago

A planer changed my life. The jointer I can handplane around, but the planer I couldn’t live without.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#9 posted 925 days ago

Ditto on what Cato said. I also quickly learned that a planer is just not enough. My vote is to pick up a jointer, preferably at least an 8in., but if you are EVEN considering a 6in jointer THEN GO USED. There are boat loads of used 6in jointers on CL and elsewhere.

For example, I just found over a dozen on CL in my local area or within a two hour drive. Just sayin’...

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 925 days ago

A planer is a necessity if you want the creative control of choosing what thickness lumber you want to use in your project. I don’t own a jointer, and I can honestly tell you I rarely feel like I’m missing anything. But I will say I build mostly small projects, and usually buy S2S lumber. If I had ready access to inexpensive rough stock, and built more furniture, I’m sure I’d want a jointer.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 925 days ago

Sadly, you really need both. Or neither. You can certainly flatten and thickness boards with a router and a jig, And, you can edge joint boards with a router. Or you can go old-school and use handplanes (although a set of planes will cost a pretty penny and there’s a steep learning curve). But life is so much simpler when you have both a jointer and planer.

I have a 6” jointer. I face join rough stock then use it to put one square edge on it. Then it’s off to the planer to make both faces parallel.

The sad thing about this is that you really need a bandsaw that can resaw at least a 6” wide board to make it all pay off.

And that’s the thing. There’s a synergy from having more than one tool. That synergy reaches maximum when you have the trifecta of tools.

And then there’s the really expensive part, a workable space in which to efficiently use these tools. Woodworking is an expensive hobby.

-- Altruism is, ultimately, self-serving

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#12 posted 925 days ago

Find a lunch box planer on CL. It will change your woodworking life.

The jointer is a great tool, but the planer is a necessity. I may be more lucky, or my local sources may just be great, but all the rough lumber I’ve gotten lately went through the planer just fine, no sled needed, and I was able to table saw the edge easily. I have a 6” jointer, and I use it when the wood is just too warped to slide through the planer, or the edge is just too wavy to run against the TS fence, but I haven’t needed to do that for a while.

For the planer Makita, Rigid, Delta, Dewalt are all fine. My Rigid cost me $200.

I do think the bench top jointers aren’t worth it. Get a substantial tool. 8” is really more expensive than 6”. Again, used on CL is your best bet. It’s not too hard to find any problems before you buy. Bring a straightedge and a really good square, make sure the tables are flat, the fence is square, and run some wood through it. Listen for bad noises, make sure all the adjustments work, etc. Lots of info on this here, search for it. I got a nice 6” Jet for $225.

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BTimmons

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#13 posted 924 days ago

Thanks to everyone for the input. Looks like a router sled is in the near future. Now, I just need to wait for my tax refund, then beg my wife to let me invest in a planer.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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Manitario

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#14 posted 924 days ago

Sooner or later most beginner WW, myself included ask this question on LJ’s, as it is a substantial investment for both a planer and a jointer; you can get by with hand planes or elaborate router set ups to joint and plane your wood, but really, the easiest way is to just buy a jointer and planer.

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#15 posted 924 days ago

I’m hesitant to suggest this, given the mixed reviews. But there are combo machines out there. For example the 12” JET is about $2000.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=jet+jointer+planer&gs_upl=1318l3341l0l3437l18l15l0l3l3l0l227l1873l0.10.2l12l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2499646901553963240&sa=X&ei=hnEMT-HlOInv0gG1y4GQBg&ved=0CHMQ8wIwAA#

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Now, this sounds like a lot of money but if you think about it, I bought a Dewalt lunchbox 735 and a Powermatic longbed 6”.
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Planer $569.00
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW735-13-Inch-Thickness-Planer/dp/B0000CCXU8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1326215713&sr=8-3
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Stand $138
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW7350-Planer-Integrated-Mobile/dp/B0000CCXU9/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1326215713&sr=8-4
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Infeed outfeed $50
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW7351-Folding-Table-Planer/dp/B0000CCXUA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1326215713&sr=8-6
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Jointer $1000
http://www.amazon.com/Powermatic-Deluxe-6-Inch-Jointer-Quick-Set/dp/B000BHNC0C/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1326215862&sr=1-1
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So I spent $1757 for the pair and they take up a good bit of room in my tiny shop for 6” and 13” capacity.
Just sayin.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#16 posted 924 days ago

I saved on the jointer and do it on my table saw. I have a 4 foot level that I installed a bracket on. I move the fence to accomade the lumber to be joined and the width of the level, I rip off the smallest amount that I can get away with by pushing the level and wood at the same time. I get a perfect edge every time. There are a few ways you can do it. I like using the level but here is a jig that you can make. I had two jointers but sold them both because I like doing it on the TS better and in my small 14X18 shop I don’t have to have another peace of equipment taking up space.

http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/2005/01/28/wb/

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#17 posted 924 days ago

Yeah, for now the router sled will have to do the trick. I just don’t know how long I should expect to take flattening a single board since I haven’t tried it yet. Earlier bunkie recommended a bandsaw with a 6” capacity, but I think mine can only do 5”. It’s pretty dinky. I may need to upgrade there too, and maybe just give the old one to a friend. Still, the rough mahogany boards I have are under 5” wide, so that’s not too important for the immediate future.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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#18 posted 924 days ago

I know some guys here really love the bandsaw for this kind of stuff. I’m not one of them. I still think you can get by without a power jointer. Lunchbox planers and jointers seem to turn up all the time on CL. I know a lot of people here like the Rigid jointer and I think it’s under $500 new.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#19 posted 924 days ago

+1 on what bunkie said. Things changed once the jointer, planer, and bandsaw joined my table saw and drill press. I can do a lot more, and there is no extra space in my garage, either.

If you are going to focus on smaller projects that will only need a few boards, I can see getting by with just a table saw and a thickness planer. Face jointing with a thickness planer is not so hard, but it will get tedious in a hurry if you have more than a few boards to do. My jointer is 6”, so I’m doing that on wider stock anyway.

-- Greg D.

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BTimmons

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#20 posted 924 days ago

Thanks for the table saw tip, agallant. I was actually experimenting with that concept two days ago, with very mixed results. It’s helpful to see the proper way to do that! You should see the Frankenstein rig I slapped together.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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#21 posted 924 days ago

Used is a great way to get good tools at an affordable price.

HEED Horizontal Mikes advice – - My regret in the tools i got is that I got a 6 inch jointer. I really really really wish I had gotten an 8 inch model, sure it would take up more room, but for my dresser project i would have loved to joint the stock for the drawers that are 7 3/4 inches wide.

I did go the route of making a sled for the planer and that is workable, but that is a pain.
However I can’t justify the hit I take selling the 6 inch to buy the 8 inch.

So I am just wishing I had bit the bullet up front and bought the tool I needed ONCE!

I have a realy supportive wife that also does Woodturning, but it is hard to say that the “old” tool is not cutting it and that I NEED a new one. It is just really really hard to justify the upgrade of old tools versus buying a new different tool that adds to your arsenal of capabilities. (hmm I would like to upgrade that jointer but I would like to ADD an Oscillating Spindle Sander…..well i’ll suffer by with the small jointer one more year grumble grumble)

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#22 posted 924 days ago

Dirt, it kills me that I didn’t spend the extra $1000 for both the 8 inches and the helical.
http://www.amazon.com/Powermatic-1610086K-60HH-1-Phase-Cutterhead/dp/B0035JK5U8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326226411&sr=8-2

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#23 posted 924 days ago

Oof. It’ll be a quite while before I can drop that kind of cash on tools. Or anything, really.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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DrDirt

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#24 posted 924 days ago

Yeah I went all Delta (actually SWMBO placed the order) and got teh 6 inch X5
Great jointer – but it is 6 inch –
I wish I had gotten the 8 inch grizzly even with the parallelogram bed it is 795http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-x-72-Jointer-3-HP-w-Mobile-Base-Polar-Bear-Series-/G0656P
The Delta X5 6 inch jointer is 600 bucks -

The helical cutter is sweet – and what I would go for if I had a mulligan now.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#25 posted 924 days ago

Hi Brian, As mentioned you really need both if you are going to do some serious workl, however it sounds as though you may be doing smallish projects like jewelry boxes,etc. If that is what I did and was short on space,occasional use, etc. I would probably be looking at a combo. planer/jointer as indicated by Bertha. But to answer your specific question you would likely find a jointer more beneficial for small projects. (In addition to a bandsaw ofcoarse). Above all you have a tablesaw, right ? If you want to see a planer or jointer in action givie me a pm. You not far from me. JB

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#26 posted 924 days ago

Like others have said, keep your eye on Craig’s List and Ebay. There are many great buys on there for just about anything you want. It just takes patience and a knowledge of the prices of the equipment. I have bought many of my main machines at half price from new on both of these sites and dont regret it a bit.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#27 posted 924 days ago

cabmaker, I do indeed have a table saw. It’s a Delta 10” that I am “borrowing” from my brother. I say that in quotes because he’s a welder/machinist type and barely used it. He’s just glad for the room in his garage.

As many have suggested, I do keep an eye on Craigslist all the time, although I’ve rarely been afforded the opportunity to score a deal. I got a miter saw a while back, but nothing that’s just life-changing yet.

So here’s my tentative plan for the near future: Knock out a router sled to flatten some boards and get some small or medium size projects done. Then once I have enough resources for a planer, keep using the router sled in lieu of a jointer to flatten one side of a board before feeding it into the planer.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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#28 posted 924 days ago

At what point do I bite the bullet and buy a jointer and planer?

Sooner, not later….flat, straight stock with a uniform thickness and perfectly squared edges…what a concept!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Manitario

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#29 posted 924 days ago

I echo what others have said, if you put out the money for a jointer, I strongly recommend an 8”; everytime I use my jointer I regret not getting an 8”

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#30 posted 924 days ago

If you can’t afford the 8” which I think should be a goal then you should spend as little as you can on a decent 6” jointer. Always go cast iron and a decent motor. there are usable machines out there for $50 to $100 if you watch for them. Be ready to spring when you see the deal. By doing that will will have the use of that machine and can resell it for most of what you gave when you are ready for the larger machine. I know tools vary by different locations in the country. You can’t get a Powermatic saw in this area. You would have to drive 7 or 8 hours to locate one. Depending on where you live you might find a jointer. I got the jointer first because jointers were a few hundred new and planers were a few thousand. That was 40 years ago and everything has changed since then. A lot can be done with a small planer.

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#31 posted 924 days ago

Got a couple of suggestions. First off, where da wife is concerned, I have always found that a well manicured misstatement of facts is helpful, especially when combined with a new combination lock on the shop entrance. Obfuscate, obstruct and deny. If it works for the Attorney General, I figure it ought’a work fer me. Eventually, once you’ve gotten it all nice and broke in, you can transition to the “oh that ol’ thing… hell I’ve had that for years, you just couldn’t see it back there under all of the junk”. To her credit, I owe that last bit to my wife. It took the first 25 years of our blissful union for me to realize that she had long ago perfected this ploy, regularly called upon when confronted by a confused husband, (me in my natural state where the fairer sex is concerned) who had regressed to living out of laundry baskets in the basement – because the his and hers walk-in closets had long since gone uni-sex.
Seriously… who the hell needs a hundred pairs of G.D shoes? But I digress…

Ain’t exactly your back yard, but recently came across a nice Makita combo machine with good rollers, bearings, blades, etc. that a nice young man with a real bad drug habit had inherited from his grandpa. To say that dealing with him was an adventure would be a considered understatement, but once he started “illin’ ” and the sweat beads started to form on his brow, the price on everything started to improve dramatically. My advice would be to squirrel away whatever money you can and be patient. It may take a few weeks or months, but eventually everybody dies, so there’s always somethin’ gettin’ sold by some knucklehead that is clueless. Given the state of our State, things aren’t goin’ anywhere good anytime soon, so there should be even better buying opportunities on the horizon.

Another real consideration, and unfortunate truism about the plight of our ever diminishing fiat currency, is that the money that you spend today on hard assets and commodities, will invariably save you money and preserve your wealth in the future. I know that sounds rather counter intuitive, but trust me it’s accurate.

I can not save a loaf of bread for a couple of years, as I have lived to see the price of said same double over the last two, but the trailer load of hardwoods that my buddy and I split ten years ago at auction, is now worth well beyond our means. While the dollars in your pocket are worth less and less every day (roughly 98% less than when the Federal Reserve was created almost a hundred years ago… GOOD JOB eh?!), the cost of hard assets such as high quality manufactured goods, continues to climb at an even higher and disproportionate rate relative to what we earn and save. More simply put, the inflation that our rulers swear does not exist, will always rise faster than anyone’s ability to earn. That’s the reality of deficit spending.

That’s also especially easy to see these last few years, as Americans in particular have actually seen their average earnings and standard of living decrease by something like 10% (unless of course you are fortunate enough to be employed by the Feral government). That means that IF you actually had money saved and stashed, like at your bank earning an eye watering 1/2 to 1% interest per year… while REAL inflation was eroding its value by a mere 4 to 6% (and that’s wishful thinking), your money is really only shrinking by about 5% each year. So… if you thought that you were eventually going to retire, guess again. We’ll all end up broke eventually. The idea is that if you purchase a durable good now, it’s value may be inflated by the continuing demise of the dollar, but the intrinsic value of your tools will remain. Think of it this way, would you rather have a nice big chunk of steel and iron out in the shop, or a fist full of worthless paper scrip down the road? Sorry for the depressing side track, but it’s real.

Also, don’t overlook old iron. I’ve gotten a bunch of steals just being willin’ to clean a little rust and take stuff apart and put it back together. There’s a ton of info on the net about restoring vintage gear, and most of it’s stuff that you’d never be able to come close to replacing or affording from the new selections available today. My Mini Max 18” Band Saw had a rust covered table and a frozen thrust bearing, so I “did the seller a favor” and took it off of his hands for $150, but only ‘cuz he threw in a nice H.D. mobile base and a pile of cedar that I’m now re-sawing to make strip canoes from. $20 and some elbow grease later I had a gem of a saw for under $200 that I could never afford to replace with comparable new.

Nearly new V/S Jet lathe with cast iron legs and bed, all kinds of jaws and chucks, high dollar English turning tools and bowl making gear… $300, plus the seller GAVE me a 60 gallon vertical air compressor ‘cuz he was moving out of state the next day and a previous buyer had fallen through. I purposely had put just two hundred in one pocket by itself all crumpled up in a wad. I started to pull it out to pay him and then… “aw man, I’m sorry, I only have $200 left – I forgot I stopped and bought a new battery on the way over”. And just like that, $200 sealed the deal. Sometimes it just pays to be Johnny on the spot with the dough, and also – follow up when you see something that a seller has said is already sold. More times than not, if somebody said they’ll be back, they don’t ever show. Not tryin’ to sound like a slime ball, but if the seller is that motivated, if you don’t take advantage of the opportunity the next guy sure as heck will. Besides, I’ve never caught hell for gettin’ a great deal, and I always sleep better knowing that what I own is worth a hell of a lot more than what I paid for it.

Lastly, and you may find this difficult to believe if you’re a young enough man, but there was actually a time when men built furniture and boxes without the use of helical cutting heads and three phase electric. Point of fact, today those constructs are some of the most valued treasure of their kind. Rather funny in a way, that we often aspire to duplicate as nearly as possible, that which was made by hand hundreds of years ago, and even with all of the technology at our disposal – we still more often than not come up short.

Other than the satisfaction of oiling, sharpening, honing, adjusting, holding and just looking at an old well made hand tool, the actual use of said tools are linked to some kind of crazy endorphin release. Of this I am quite certain, because anytime that I see a long smooth curl of paper-thin maple come rolling off of the top of my plane and finally fall to the floor, I catch myself standing alone in my shop… grinning… like an absolute idiot, without a care in the world. ;)

Sorry for the TLTR… I’ll try and edit in my head from now on.

-- “It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.” - Dr. Ron Paul

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#32 posted 924 days ago

I use both a lot. I bought a 6” jointer from HF and have been happy with it on the plus side it will also do rabbits. I caught my delta planer as a display at lowes for $175 it was being discontinued. I use my planer more than the jointer. I’ve heard that the planer at HF is fairly decent it may be worth looking into.

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BTimmons

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#33 posted 922 days ago

Thanks again to everyone for the advice and insight. It’s been very helpful.

-- Brian Timmons, Big T Woodworks - https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigTWW - http://vimeo.com/98821147

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#34 posted 922 days ago

I’m looking really hard at this grizzly combo:

G0634Z. It is hard to find many people who have it though.

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#35 posted 922 days ago

Galt-well said, a true woodworker.
tom

-- "certified sawdust maker"

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#36 posted 922 days ago

well, you can get around having a jointer for a little while.
Craftsman makes a jig set that you attach to a straight board to joint wood on your tablesaw. They can be difficult to find, and often the salesmen/saleswomen will have no clue if you ask them.

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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#37 posted 922 days ago

I purchased my planer and jointer after my first project – a set of three coffee tables. Before that time, I would go to Crosscut Lumber and buy a few boards at a time for $300. Now I buy trailer loads of hardwood for the same price. I have had the best luck buying from private sellers who deal locally.
Furthermore, the type of wood I use is only available as rough stock in my area.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#38 posted 922 days ago

I picked up an old craftsman cast iron jointer on CL for $85, been using it steadily for a year now, it works, learned alot about old tools…

I had the jointer before the planer, and both make life so much better but if you have a good hand plane then you can flatten by hand and plane to thickness with a planer, planing to thickness with a hand plane is doable (they’ve been doing it for centuries) but its hard work.

I was in turmoil over the Dewalt 735 planer, I really wanted that heavy-duty beast, but the project I was on needed a planer and fast, so I bought the 734, LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!

So worth it, I used a 20% off coupon from HF at Lowes and got it for $320, worth every penny. Both are important, but a planer will cut so much time off your work. But thats IMO.

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#39 posted 922 days ago

If I had the money and space, yes, I would love to have one of those monster jointers people have been posting pics of that look like the flight deck of an aircraft carrier. A 24 in planer with spiral cutters would be a whole lot of fun. Instead, I bought the small 8” Jet combo jointer planer. I was fine with the 8” capacity and on sale it was only $250. It is a pain to have to stop and switch setups over dedicated machines but for occasional use, it does fine and I don’t regret it. I don’t use that much wide stock. If it is over 8 inches, I am either going to use sheet goods or it would be too big for an inexpensive planer anyway.

If I could only get one of these two, I would also go for the planer. Edge jointing is fast and easy to do by hand compared to facing and thicknessing which takes a bit longer. If budget was really tight, I wouldn’t get either. I got by without having one for years. Even now, if I am just doing a couple pieces I do it by hand. It is more work to get out the extension cord and move stuff around to get to the planer.

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