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Jet or delta jointer

by Iggles88
posted 12-20-2011 02:03 AM


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RibsBrisket4me

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#1 posted 12-20-2011 02:07 AM

Are these both 6 inch jointers? If so, I would NEVER pay that much. You can get a Grizzly for @ $400.

See my link, I got my Craftsman 6 inch jointer on a Craftsman club sale for $344 out the door and it works great.

The Ridgid is also a quality tool and much less than $700. Please shop around a bit more.

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#2 posted 12-20-2011 02:10 AM

Here you go! This Grizz and Craftsman are clones but the Grizz has the built in mobile base.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-x-46-Jointer/G0654

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Don Carrier

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#3 posted 12-20-2011 02:11 AM

I have a grizzly and I love it. They have 5 or 6 in your price range. There base model floor standing is 395 and is a great little machine. I don’t want to try to change you mind but if you need more info let me know.

What ever you get will be great money spent. Start stocking up on glue!

-- Don

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Iggles88

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#4 posted 12-20-2011 02:15 AM

Well whatever I buy I definitely want it to be high quality, I looked at grizzly and was sold on it until I found out that it’s your responsibility to get it off the truck when delivered and that it’s so expensive for shipping, the grizzly was 465 plus 75 shipping so in the end it wasn’t that much cheaper…..I don’t want to buy craftsman I’ve had they’re tools and don’t have luck with them except for my mechanic tools…..I would love to spend less money but I have shopped around. The Ridgid is 650 so that’s not cheaper and jet and delta are better names…..believe me id love nothing more then to spend less money as long as its the right tool

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#5 posted 12-20-2011 02:19 AM

Yea, I have a Delta, not the model you listed, and probably wouldn’t purchase it again. Jet is alright, longer bed plus it’s easier to adjust. Why don’t you look in the used market (Craigslist, Auctionzip, ebay). You usually can find good deals on great equipment and if you keep a sharp enough eye you can find some nicely conditioned equipment for great prices. i.e. a Powermatic 54A Longbed in great condition 400obo, is a listing i just saw near me 400. Plus they probably will throw in extra blades and accessories for free. Worth looking into.

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Iggles88

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#6 posted 12-20-2011 02:23 AM

Every time I start a thread on here about something I might buy somebody tells me to try the used route and I always give the same answer. I have gone the used route before and it always comes back to bite me, I don’t like buying used tools. I’d much rather spend the money for a new tool that I know I can take good care of and that will last me. I appreciate the suggestions tho, I Looked at that powermatic but it’s not in my price range right now unfortunately.

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#7 posted 12-20-2011 02:24 AM

Where do you live Canada? Reason I ask is I see the Ridgid at HD all the time and it’s never been 650 in Texas. More like $450.

The jointer is a very simple tool. Cutterhead, fence, and motor, so in my world paying $300 more for a little better fence is not worth it when it stays @ 90 degrees 99% of the time and $300 will buy another tool or a ton of wood.

Quality is important no doubt, but quality and price is not always linear. Is the Delta worth $300 more than the Grizz, Ridgid or Craftsman?

It is if you think it is and are willing to pay the $$$.

I agree with Bull, check CL.

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BigBowWow

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#8 posted 12-20-2011 02:28 AM

Most of the shippers will help you get it off the truck and into the garage. It’s to their advantage. They are on a schedule. Of course you need to be home when it arrives. Grizzly quality is as good as you can buy nowadays, for the budget minded hobbiest. I have several grizzly tools. No problems. It’s still a family owned business. Great customer service. I mean really great.

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#9 posted 12-20-2011 02:29 AM

Iggles88, I’m not being a smarta$$, but I make a very good living and can easily afford Powermatic anything, but you’ll see my entire shop is Craftsman and Ridgid. I do this for a hobby, so I prefer value and to me the Powermatic or Delta is a super tool but in my eyes not a super value.

Others disagree with me, and prefer to buy higher end tools and if they do this for living they should buy the best they can afford. Yes I have been burned, see my planer review, but overall I prefer more $$$ in my brokerage acct.

If you feel you are a high end tool guy then either the Jet, PM, or Delta will make you happy and they are all great jointers.

Good luck!

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#10 posted 12-20-2011 02:33 AM

I have seen the Ridgid on amazon for 650, my hd in Philly doesn’t sell the Ridgid jointer…..the cheapest price I found was 650, believe me I do not want to spend 700 I’m not happy about it at all, I definitely am looking at the grizzly….it’s nice and it was the one I was looking at first and I liked it but the tax and shipping made me think spending the money on the next level jointers would make sense but I guess I’ll look at the grizzly a little harder and if anyone can give me a link to the Ridgid at about 450-500 please let me know.

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Delta356

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#11 posted 12-20-2011 02:34 AM

Delta all the way. I own Delta’s 6” X5 jointer. This is a great jointer. It has proved it’S self already. It has the Delta name, thats all you need to decide..LOL :<).

I had published a review a couple months ago.. You might want to read so you can get a better idea of the jointer.

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2236

Thanks,Michael Frey
Portland,OR

FREY WOODWORKING INC.

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#12 posted 12-20-2011 02:36 AM

The mgr in the HD tool crib will be able to order you a Ridgid jointer for less than $500. My buddy has one and he loves it. I helped him put it together and it is really nice.

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#13 posted 12-20-2011 02:36 AM

Guys listen I don’t think your understanding me, I do not want to spend that kind of money on a jointer, the time ive spent shopping around have given me the bench top models for about 2-350 then it’s all been like 500 or more for a floor model with bigger infeed and out feed tables so I looke at the jet and delta, I haven’t seen the 4-550 range jointers that people are telling me about but that’s more of my price range

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#14 posted 12-20-2011 02:40 AM

If you go to the post office and get a change of address package, you used to get a 10% coupon from Home Depot in it. Go to HD this week and talk to the tool crib mgr and see what he can work for you.

To just see one of these, go to Sears, the Craftsman is a clone of the Grizz.

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#15 posted 12-20-2011 02:42 AM

Bullet, I stop in my sears all the time I have only seen the little bench top jointer that they sell, my sears doesn’t have the bigger jointer there….my area seems to suck for tools

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HamS

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#16 posted 12-20-2011 02:45 AM

I own the Jet you are considering and I have been happy with it. I have used it for seven years now. There are three things I have found problematic. In my shop and with my work habits I neglected to wax the exposed iron and in the summer the humidity put a small film of rust on the infeed and outfeed tables. I was able to clean it up easily, but don’t forget the wax. The Delta probably would be the same, that problem was me not the tool. Setting the knives was pretty easy. More important is the adjustment to the fence. I am not a machinist and have not measured precisely, but my eye tells me the fence is straight, but it does not always stay square. The adjustment is held in place with a sheet metal bracket that is tightened with a bold against the linkage mechanism. It holds but … THe stop is a bolt with a jam nut and that has worked loose several times with the effect of having to resquare the fence to the table. I suspect the Delta probably has a similar issue, although I do not know. The third is the dust collection when using the rabbet feature. It is real handy, but only about half of the chips go into the dust chute. The rest come right out on the floor. The dust chute probably gets 98-99% of the chips when not cutting on the edge. Adjusting the knives is very easy and the knives that come with it are pretty good, I sharpen them every six or seven months and I am a weekend worker.

I chose the Jet over the Delta when I was buying based on reviews and availability. It basically came to price and availability locally. shipping costs would have been high and I was able to pick up the Jet from a nearly local dealer.

If it sounds like I am critical, I am not. I would have preferred to buy the 8” and I regret not saving and making the upgrade. It is limiting to have to glue up any board over 5 1/2”. However, I use lots of rough sawn lumber and have used it to make my lumber flat and square for seven years and have not had a failure.

Ham

-- My mother named me Hamilton, I have been trying to earn my nickname ever since.

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#17 posted 12-20-2011 02:48 AM

Dang, I live in po-dunk Texas and the jointer is there all the time on display, I saw it last week. Same when I was in Wichita Kansas and in Southern Illinois. Sounds like a road trip to the Grizz in PA is in order! HAHA!

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#18 posted 12-20-2011 02:52 AM

Just checked again Ridgid jointer 651, craftsman jointer is over 600, I did find the grizzly but after shipping and tax it’s gonna get up there in price so I’m back where I started. I’m surprised my prices are way off from other people

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#19 posted 12-20-2011 03:02 AM

Iggles I suspect people are looking at the cheaper 6” Jet not the -6csdx. That is over $100 difference on Amazon between the two models.

-- My mother named me Hamilton, I have been trying to earn my nickname ever since.

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#20 posted 12-20-2011 03:09 AM

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#21 posted 12-20-2011 03:11 AM

Ridgid jointer $375

http://austin.craigslist.org/tls/2741083779.html

Get on CL and keep checking it!

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#22 posted 12-20-2011 03:13 AM

The first one was 725 and I mentioned earlier I won’t buy used tools of rather spend the money to get a new tool that I know hasn’t been beat up bet a previous Owner

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#23 posted 12-20-2011 03:15 AM

Well so far you have paralysis by over analysis HAHA.

My table saw, drill press and bandsaw were all bought used and are awesome!

Good luck on your search. Post pics when you get your planer, jointer etc.

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#24 posted 12-20-2011 03:25 AM

Hell if a new Ridgid jointer is $750. I need to sell mine. It just sets in the corner gathering dust since I bought a Incra Super System. Nothing wrong with the joiner just easier to use the Incra.

-- Life is good.

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#25 posted 12-20-2011 03:55 AM

That’s big bucks for a 6” jointer…both good machines, but not significantly different than a 6” Griz, Ridgid, newer Craftsman, Shop Fox, Steel City, Rikon, etc., that are quite a bit less. What’s an 8” Griz running these days?

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#26 posted 12-20-2011 04:01 AM

Knotscott…..grizzly jointers are atleast 395 I’d probably get the one that’s 465 plus 75 shipping plus 40 tax do that’s 580. Craftsman doesnt make a jointer that’s cheaper then those prices, neither does Ridgid…...a steel city is only 100 cheaper and I don’t know how they’re quality is.. Rikon also is up there in price…..people seem to think they are cheaper and if they can find em cheaper please send me links because I do not want to spend 700 for a jointer

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#27 posted 12-20-2011 04:58 PM

if your purchasing online and out of state there is tax?

Don’t take this the wrong way, but I was in the same problem your in, wanting nice equipment for cheap. What I found was that with top consumer brands Delta, Jet, Powermatic etc you won’t really find any great price breaks. On mid-range such as grizzly you might find deals once in awhile if you wait such as free shipping etc. I ended up going to an auction and got all my equipment 1/4 price new. And the stuff was in super great shape, that’s all people were talking about how clean stuff was. The guy had written down dates of anything he had done to the saw, service, blades, oiling etc. My point, if you look around and find the right piece of used equipment your gonna get a top end machine for over half off, I think others here would agree. Case in point, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, see below that 8” looks brand spanking new.

Powermatic 54 ($350)
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/2746162766.html
Powermatic 8” $900
http://ocala.craigslist.org/tls/2719111195.html

I know you said you don’t want used equipment, I was in the same shoes, but you can find good used equipment if you look. My entire shop is made of what people here would consider premium items such as Powermatic’s and Festools all purchased used and all in excellent shape.

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#28 posted 12-20-2011 05:54 PM

Sorry you have problems with older used equipment. I have worked on/repaired/made parts for newer tools for a few of my friends. Stay away from the Sears/clones that use aluminum parts in the fence adjusting mechanism. Once they get a little dent in the wrong spot, you are stuck fighting it always indexing to the wrong angle. PS, the parts are no longer available to correct problem. I would still try to find and old cast iron Delta or Powermatic. The 6” Deltas are easy to find, simple to work on, and hold their accuracy. $200 or less should buy a good one. Stay away from the old Craftsman jointers that do not have both tables adjustable.

-- Dan Coleman, retired Welding Inspector and past IA Teacher

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#29 posted 12-20-2011 08:10 PM

I also have the 6”-csdx and I agree with Ham’s review above. My only complaint about the machine is the fence 90deg stop; I’ve learned the hard way to always check it; nothing funny about a glued up flat panel that’s curved.

If I had to do it over I think I would have waited an gotten an 8”; although I see posts where people with 8” jointers are complaining they’re too small too, so I suppose the grass is always greener.

I’m outside Philly in Jersey an I also see very little come across craigslist here; maybe there are just fewer woodworkers in urban areas? I looked for months when I was setting up my shop and saw nothing decent, or pro shop stuff that was way out of my league. The only deal I came across was a new, in the box, router table top for a fair discount. I ended up buying everything else new. I don’t own a truck either, so picking up something large is a problem.

I also hear you about used equipment; every used car my Wife or I ever had turned out to be a piece of junk, no matter how thoroughly we had it checked before hand. Now we only buy new and run them into the ground ourselves. Do what makes you the most comfortable. I might have tried a used tool, but then again maybe not; I never got the opportunity to make the choice.

-- John

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#30 posted 01-01-2012 11:53 PM

*’ Delta DJ-20 is very hard to beat.

-- Roger M, Aiken, SC

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