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Caster Question

by SeaWitch
posted 1009 days ago


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syenefarmer

389 posts in 1706 days


#1 posted 1009 days ago

My guess would be that its a stability issue. Even double locking caster can have some slight movement and getting the wheels totally off the ground does eliminate that.

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David

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#2 posted 1009 days ago

That was exactly my reasoning. I don’t want even slight movement of my workbench when it’s down.

I considered these: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30842 but the weight capacity isn’t enough, they may be sufficient for your needs though. My workbench is a tank.

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Lee Barker

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#3 posted 1009 days ago

I would just put plastic feet on the legs. Cheapest stuff is the polyethylene cutting boards which you can buy at the thrift stores for a buck or two. They’re usually a half or 3/8 thick. Countersink some holes, chamfer the edges (easy with a hand plane) and screw them to the legs. You’ll still be able to move it, but it won’t even wiggle unless you apply your hip.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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StumpyNubs

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#4 posted 1009 days ago

Caster? Can she even act?

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#5 posted 1009 days ago

Hey there wicked one, everything in my shop is on wheels (casters), some with fixed at one end and some with swivel all around. Some have breaks, some don’t, – depends on your required usage.
One version is what I have on my sanding table configuration – 4 swivels and 2 leveling pads.
You can use (instead of what I used) a threaded rod, wing nut and nut set in a piece of 2×4, it works just as good. As far as casters go, don’t use anything less than 3” dia, with a tire tread that is compatible with the floor surface, and get a wide a tread, not less than 1”.

Here’s one of my setups.

One end view

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Bill White

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#6 posted 1009 days ago

Lee,
I did this on my lathe. I don’t move the w’bench, but the HDMW feet on the lathe were/are great.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Rick

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#7 posted 1006 days ago

Seawitch:

With all due Respect. This is One Of Four “Help Me Out” Postings you’ve put up in the last 4 Days. They all have up to 6 Replies, yet nothing from you after the initial Posting.

I noticed that you’ve been quite active in other areas during that time. I was wondering if you are “Watching” your own Postings?

14 Days is not a long ime to be on here, and there is Learning Curve, but I’m sure the Posters would appreciate some sort of an Acknowledgement.

Thank You: Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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SeaWitch

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#8 posted 1006 days ago

“From Rick:
With all due Respect. This is One Of Four “Help Me Out” Postings you’ve put up in the last 4 Days. They all have up to 6 Replies, yet nothing from you after the initial Posting.

I noticed that you’ve been quite active in other areas during that time. I was wondering if you are “Watching” your own Postings?”

Rick, yes, I am watching whatever I post. I am familiar with forums, and, in fact, was a moderator on one. I’m sorry if you take offense. In my opinion, 3 days is not a long time to reply back in your own thread. I find it weird if the same poster posts several times in his own (short) thread.

The main reason I’m on this forum or any other is to learn something, and that’s why I ask questions. If you’re watching where I post, you may also notice that I have also tried to help others, so that I am not just taking from this forum, but also giving. I have offered several “tips” in the “tips and tricks” threads; I offered to be the 2X4 contest and also to donate a prize there.

I am always grateful for any and all replies. In this thread I have looked up every single castor reference suggested. I contacted Zambus and have been able to find them in Canada at a fair price. So thank you very much, all, for the castor information.

To Rick, thank you for your concern. Yes, I assure you I am smarter than a bag of hammers. Good Morning!

-- When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it.”   Theodore Roosevelt

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StumpyNubs

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#9 posted 1005 days ago

Some would say it is better to listen and learn when you ask a question. Maybe that’s what Seawitch is doing?...

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HerbC

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#10 posted 1005 days ago

SeaWitch,

Could have been worse, could have been “castor oil” instead of just a tongue lashing from the self-designated hall monitor…

Now, in respect to the original subject of this thread, I’m currently building a new cabinet stand for an older Craftsman tablesaw. I need it to be mobile and am using 3” swivel locking casters on it. I’m also going to make some “chocks” (wedges of wood to put under it) to prevent any rolling tendancy caused by the use of the swivel casters. I’ll use these when I want to be certain it doesn’t move when sawing…

Also, I just noticed that you “offered to be the 2X4 contest…” and I can only say, like the Army, “Be all you can be!” < GRIN >

Herb

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

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SeaWitch

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#11 posted 1005 days ago

Thanks Herb and StumpyNubs for the good vibes. Yes, I’ll suffer through the tubafore thing. I’ve got my eye on the “at least it’s not firewood” prize. I figure if there are only 5 entries, I have a fighting chance.

On the castor thing, for the moment, I think I’ll go with some self-leveling ones. They’re not cheap, but at least it’s an all-in-one thing. Herb, my dog would probably run away with those chocks. And frankly, the simple locking ones aren’t cheap either…...

-- When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it.”   Theodore Roosevelt

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#12 posted 1005 days ago

Even just a “thanks everyone” will do.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Lee Barker

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#13 posted 1005 days ago

Thanks, Bill, for acknowledging my idea. It is an elegant, inexpensive, simple and functional solution to a challenge that is fairly common.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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BurtC

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#14 posted 1005 days ago

I pondered the same question when I was building my bench, then I stumbled across an alternative. Assuming you bench will have four legs, say 4×4 post type leg. During assembly, I used some scrap carpet under legs so I would not scratch the floor when sliding around. Ends up that was my solution. Just glued some 3.5” squares of carpet, face down on bottom foot of post and works great. Has enough friction to keep in place, but can still be slid against wall with reasonable force. Maybe this would work for you or someone else too.

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Rick

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#15 posted 1005 days ago

Oh GOOD! Somebody “Flagged’ My Reply and had it removed. Use to be where LumpyNubs post #10 is now.

Oh well. No big deal. “HerbC” they still have hall monitors at your School? That’s not a “Bad Thing” you know!!

Sea Witch is focusing on a Workbench and herb is talking about a Saw Stand. So! May I suggest ..herb …. I have a set of these under my Table Saw legs and they work very well and Lock nicely. Lee valley sells them for about $55 to $60.00 I got mine at Canadian Tire on sale for around $25.00 I think. One reason was CTC’s had Metal Arms where you see the Orange ones on LV’s. I just thought they would be better, maybe not.


SeaWitch: Probably not good for your Bench but your other post on the Table Saw…might work. I’m REALLY GLAD I put them on my Ridgid! Makes moving the Saw a piece of Cake!

Believe it or not after racking my Brain for a small 2’x4’ Auxilliary Bench I put Appliance Casters under it. They say they’ll support up to somewhere around 1100 Lbs. The bench is up against the wall so it’s just straight back, and forth movement if at all. I actually had to cut them down to span the 2’. They cost all of $10.00 Bucks or less.

Lee Valley has a good selection of Polyurethane Casters, Swivel/Locking and Fixed. I’ve got a picture on here of them, but I think the Price is wrong. See if I can grab a Link to their Page.

Oky. This Link

Should take you to the “Search Page” and Both Typres of Casters MIGHT…LOL.. be there. I copied the Pictures just in case.

The metal Ones, as a Set of Four, at 4” are $54.90. Seperately, Fixed are $14.70 Each and Swivel-Lock are $16.70 Each

The Polyurathane ones Shown as “D” in the Picture are …Fixed, 3”x4” $8.20 Each. Swivel/Lock 3”x4” are $13.60 Each.

Guess that’s about it for now.

CHEERS: Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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Rick

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#16 posted 1005 days ago

HEEEEEEEEE!! HAWWWWWWWWW!! The LINK Works. Time for a BEER!!

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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SeaWitch

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#17 posted 1005 days ago

Thank you for the ideas, Rick, Lee, and Burt. I don’t think the plastic or carpet underneath will work in this application because I regularly move my table 10’ to the open garage door when I’m doing something really dusty. I think I need wheels on it….

Rick, yes, I saw those castors at LV. It’s funny but they’re cheaper than the ones at Home Depot. I’m beginning to wonder if plain old locking castors might be sufficient…..

thanks everyone.

-- When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it.”   Theodore Roosevelt

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Lee Barker

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#18 posted 1004 days ago

Thanks for the acknowledgement, Seawitch.

Another approach is to use two only fixed casters. Lifting the lighter side of the tool then scooting on the wheels would be the process. You can steer such a vehicle too. And you won’t get that unstable result from casters that don’t lock the swivel as well as the wheel.

I have two fixtures in my shop which have this system, and it’s easy to move them, they are rock solid when they sit, and the total wheel cost was less than ten bucks.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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Lifesaver2000

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#19 posted 1004 days ago

Interesting how things work out. I just finished a lumber cart yesterday, and decided I didn’t like the casters I had on hand. Called my local hardware store, they didn’t have what I wanted. Got on line to try to figure out if Home Depot or True Value might have something good, but decided to check Lumberjocks Pulse first. Saw this topic, found Rick’s post about Lee Valley.

Just so happens I already had a gift item for my wife in my Lee Valley cart. Then I find that I could get four polyurethane casters (which I have read are the way to go for something really heavy) from Lee Valley for about the same price as a set of plastic or rubber casters (which I understand are a bad idea for a lumber cart) that I might be lucky to find if I made the 50 mile round trip to town. Got it all done without leaving my recliner!

Got to love this place….

Thanks to SeaWitch for starting the topic and to Rick for pointing me to Lee Valley. Oh, and I hope that price was right because it is a lot cheaper than I found the same item for at other places since I got the “4 or more” discount.

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helluvawreck

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#20 posted 1004 days ago

When you have a small shop you will most likely come to the conclusion that many of your machines, cabinets, and tables will have to be on casters. All of mine are good casters that have brakes. My work table and drill have no casters and my table saw is a Powermatic and it has a good set of built in casters and a nice mechanism to raise and lower the casters. Everything else is on casters. I’d love to have a nice big shop where everything had it’s own place but I just don’t but I do manage well with what I have.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Rick

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#21 posted 1003 days ago

”Lifesaver”

If you want to check the prices for sure, just Click on “This Link” in blue directly above the Pic of the Steel Casters.

As I said above, that will take you to the “Search Page” showing Both types of Casters. Click on either/both pictures and the Current Prices are there on Seperate Pages for both types of Casters.

You didn’t say which type you bought, or how many. HOWEVER ”Fixed” Casters and ”Swivel/Brake” Casters of the same size are Different Prices. The 1 or +4 Price is almost Negligible, anywhere from about $1. 20 up to about $2.00 difference on either type.

IF (and this is the reason I’m doing this) you bought 4 ONLY, you’ve probably bought 4 of the same kind (Fixed OR Swivel Lock).

I better send you a PM to let you know this is here. It’s also here in case others need the Info.

PS: Seawitch: Yes! They are cheaper than the Ones at Home Depot. When I was looking for casters I was rather “Stunned” at the price of the Steel Casters there and I don’t think they are as good a Quality as Lee Valleys. I can’t remember seeing the Poly ones at HD.

Speaking of Lee Valley, I got their “Christmas Gift Catalogue” in the mail 2 days ago. Buy Page 4 (out of70) I’d already circled 4 Items! NO! NO! So I hid it on myself!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS: Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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SeaWitch

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#22 posted 1003 days ago

Rick, we just may wind up being friends after all! I sleep with the Lee Valley catalogue under my pillow! I’m going over to Lee Valley at the end of the week and I’m going to go look at all those castors up close and personal.

-- When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it.”   Theodore Roosevelt

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Rick

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#23 posted 1003 days ago

“up close and personal.” HEY!! There you go!! OH! You’re talking about the Catalogue! DARN!

As far as I’m concerned WE are Friends. WE both said what we said. Over and Done with. New Day Every Day!!

HOWEVER!

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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Lifesaver2000

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#24 posted 1003 days ago

Rick, I had already clicked through from your message and ordered the casters by the time I made my previous post. When I said I hoped the price was right, I just meant that the price on the Lee Valley was so low I was afraid it was wrong. This is what I thought you meant when you said “but I think the Price is wrong” in your post.

Anyway, I ordered four of the 4” swiveling/locking polyurethane casters, $12.50 each. Same thing from Rockler is $20 each, so it is a big savings. Did have to pay shipping, but adding the casters only added $2 extra shipping to the order I already had in progress, so a big savings for me. These are about $2.50 each cheaper when getting four.

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