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Dust collector amps through a remote switch

by Allanwoodworks
posted 994 days ago


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Sawkerf

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#1 posted 994 days ago

Is the remote rated for use on a DC? It needs to handle both the starting current as well as the operating current of the DC.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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Allanwoodworks

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#2 posted 994 days ago

I don’t believe that it is rated for a DC, But that’s the reason for the question. I am just curious to see what will break first. Here is a link to the product.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0020ML776

-- Ty, Up in Washington

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childress

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#3 posted 994 days ago

What HF dust collector. It must be a portable one, no? cause the 2hp one is 220v I think.

I really don’t think using those stanley remotes would be good anyways….

-- Childress Woodworks

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dbhost

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#4 posted 994 days ago

I agree with Childress that this can’t be the 2HP one, but I disagree with the voltage. Being an owner of the HF 2HP DC I can state that it without a doubt is 110V. It is also rated at 20 amps which is your surge / startup amperage. It typically runs 14-15 amps in use…

I believe that whatever the underrated component is should trip, or fail first. So the remote switch should either trip assuming there is a breaker, or fail. When things electrical fail, there tends to be FIRE involved. This is NOT something you want unless you are looking for a refused insurance claim on your shop and whatever it is attached to… Simply put, take that switch OUT of the circuit before you do some real damage!

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doyoulikegumwood

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#5 posted 994 days ago

Well heres the thing and the short and sweet of it in a perfect world the switch will give out and your done the problem with that statement is this you also damage the motor on the DC in the process. not in a way thats easily noticeable but you do shorten it life buy how much who knows.

your goal whenever powering something is to power it so it has to work as little as possible to get the power it needs your basically in fluid terms your asking a fire truck to pump water from a garden spigot when you really need a hydrant. make sense.

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Allanwoodworks

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#6 posted 994 days ago

Childress,
It is a 2hp model and it is 110V. See the link
http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html
I know it’s probably not a true 2hp, I’ve herd that its 1.6 hp and they rounded up, but it works well.

dbhost,
Fire is no good, as my day job is a fire protection engineer! I’ll have to look into getting a new one.

Doyoulikegumwood,
Makes total sense. I want to keep it running for a long time. Looks like I’ll be spending some money.

Thanks guys.

-- Ty, Up in Washington

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NBeener

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#7 posted 994 days ago

Mine (same DC) is on the Long Ranger, and … it works great !

LINK

-- -- Neil

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childress

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#8 posted 994 days ago

Interesting…. I thought that model was 220v. learn something new everyday, I tell ya!

-- Childress Woodworks

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syenefarmer

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#9 posted 994 days ago

I can’t speak for the Stanley switch but I’ve been using this remote switch my HF 2HP DC for going on 7 years now. I don’t know if it makes a difference or not but one thing that I do do is fire up the DC and let it come to total full speed before I power up onything else on that circuit.

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Allanwoodworks

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#10 posted 994 days ago

Syenefarmer,

Looks like that remote is rated up to 15 amps, I may have to go with using that one. It’s a good price and gets the job done. Thanks for the info.

-- Ty, Up in Washington

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DS

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#11 posted 994 days ago

Very nice! Somehow, I assumed these would be way more expensive!
This just made my wish list!

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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Bill White

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#12 posted 994 days ago

You’ll like the HF dust collector. I added the good 1 micron bags to mine instead of the “rock protectors” that come with it. Got them from Highland Woodworking. Might wanna look at ‘em.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Allanwoodworks

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#13 posted 994 days ago

Bill,

I have been running a HF dust collector for a couple of years now and they are great. You should check out how I turned mine into a cyclone using the Oneida supper dust duty. Check out my projects.

-- Ty, Up in Washington

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Sawkerf

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#14 posted 994 days ago

I think that you need to get a better remote. Yours looks like a relatively low powered setup best used for lights, etc. If your DC runs at 14 amps on a 110 v, 15 amp circuit, your remote (at 8 amps) is the weak link and will “blow” first. If it has a reset button, you’ll probably be resetting it fairly often.

If you turn your DC on and off several times a day, get the Long Ranger remote. If your daily useage is fairly infrequent, the Shop Fox remote should work fine. I went to the Long Ranger after wearing out two of the Shop Fox remotes. They work fine, but the pushbitton eventually breaks off and makes the remote useless.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#15 posted 994 days ago

That switch will eventually burn up and your DC will stop.

Ty, I see you are in North Bend. If you need a real electrician, give me a PM.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Mark E.

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#16 posted 994 days ago

Another alternative is using the X10 system. I had that DC for a few years and used a X10 based, 20 amp wall outlet for remote control. Worked great.

-- Mark

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