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Come on Sears!!

by Brandon
posted 1035 days ago


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TechRedneck

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#1 posted 1035 days ago

Get a link belt. You won’t have to replace it for years

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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syenefarmer

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#2 posted 1035 days ago

If the original belt is a serpentine style ribbed belt then a link belt will not work with the OEM pulleys. Are there any markings on the belt you have? If so, take it to an automotive parts store and see if they can’t order something equal for you.

Unfortunately that freight rape situation isn’t just a Sears deal as most any mail order company over charges for freight.

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Rick Dennington

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#3 posted 1035 days ago

I HATE SEARS….I had a run-in with them this morning on a tool box I wanted to buy. You can read about in my forum topic I posted today..Sears is nothing but Chinese made junk, and the crap will not hold up on anything we buy….from toolboxes to bandsaws to tablesaws to you name it….Years ago Sears had good quality stuff. I have a ‘85 table saw, a RAS, and a chop saw that I got at the same time…..good stuff, and still going strong to this day….I re-built the table saw and built a roll-around saw cabinet for it, and use it just to cut dados and rabbits only with it…I use my Unisaw for all other work. It’s in my blogs…..But…I will never ever buy anything from them again….quality is out the door for me….. Hope you can find a belt, and good luck….go to an auto store like syenefarmer said.

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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stratiA

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#4 posted 1035 days ago

Grainger has all the belts you can possibly need. In any size, width, # of ribs, grooves or whatever. When I needed a new belt for my Rigid TS they were the only ones who had the special configuration of belt I needed.

-- Strati Alepidis, Burlington, Ma, Member Red Sox nation

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knotscott

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#5 posted 1035 days ago

If you posted what model # you have, others might post suggestions for another source to get a replacement belt.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Brandon

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#6 posted 1035 days ago

Techredneck- its a ribbed belt and unfortunately the linked belts wont work.

stratiA- I’m going to take a look tonight at grainger thats one place I didn’t think about thanks!

knotscott- here’s the model # 22400 If anybody has more info I’d greatly appreciate it.

-- An investment in knowledge pays the best interest. Benjamin Franklin

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lilredweldingrod

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#7 posted 1035 days ago

If you only have two pulleys, one on the motor and one on the drive pulley, change them out. It is only about $20 for the two pulleys with freight. Them the link belt can be had at good old Harbor Freight for much less that other sources.

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TechRedneck

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#8 posted 1034 days ago

Brandon

I agree with Lilred above. I have an old sears bandsaw. I added the link belt and Carter tires ( a bear to install) and some wolf blades. It works nice and smooth now. A set of Carter bearings may be next. The magfence works nice for resawing however some day I may get a 14” with a riser and have two saws.

I have a craftsman hybrid table saw with the grooved belt. The stock fence isn’t the best. When I save enough for the Incra fence I plan to strip it down and replace the pulleys with machined ones and add a link belt. It is a good saw for me, however after a couple years it has a little vibration on shutdown. I’m anal about vibration.

If you replace the pulleys with machined (not cast) and add a link belt you won’t have another problem for many years. Sometimes you don’t need a top of the line machine. I have found that a good machine with a few aftermarket add-ons can be a great performer. I paid $75 for the bandsaw used from a neighbor who upgraded.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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syenefarmer

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#9 posted 1034 days ago

You won’t get any arguement from me on how great link belts are in most cases. However, in this case I wouldn’t go to the added expense of changing out the pulleys and buying a length of link belt. The serpentine style belts are less prone to vibration than link belts are.

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Brandon

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#10 posted 1032 days ago

Well good news!! I had a brain fart and realized that I still had a little over a month left on the warranty. I called my local sears this morning and told them my story of the crappy belt. The salesman ask for the basic info and said I’d have a new belt within 3-5 days.

I’ll still be on the lookout for a cheaper alternative and if i find any good info on a belt I’ll let all you guys know.

Thanks for the advice fellow LJ’S

-- An investment in knowledge pays the best interest. Benjamin Franklin

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knotscott

5417 posts in 2001 days


#11 posted 1032 days ago

Cool! Thanks for the followup info.

It turns out I’ve got the same saw…..going on about 4 years IIRC. No issues with the belt so far (knock wood!), but I’ll be keeping my eye out for replacements just in case. I think these are made by Richen Enterprises who owns Rikon, so if they’ve got a 12” BS in their repertoire, they might have a belt that fits the Cman 22400.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Brandon

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#12 posted 1024 days ago

OK I’d like to give a follow up on the sears experience…......

Its been a little over a week and have been anxiously waiting for my belt to show up, nothing shows up. This afternoon I called sears to find out the status of the belt. After being handed off to numerous employees I finally talked to the correct person which was the warranty department (imagine that).

The gentleman kindly told me that my warranty item has been declined. “What why didn’t someone call to tell me that!”. Well as he jumped through hoops trying to explain to me what happened he put me on hold…....The music continues…..and continues…

Finally he comes back and tells me that the item was reordered and should be out to me within the week if not the first of next week. I asked again what happened the first time and the answer was the shipping address was wrong. Hmmm

I’m starting to become an avid none user of Craftsman lately due to the inconsistent customer service and the monopolizing of parts. Granted some parts are readily available but you have to get them shipped and pay a pretty sum just for shipping.

Once again Sears you’ve created a believer out of me.

Love your disgruntled woodworker

-- An investment in knowledge pays the best interest. Benjamin Franklin

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Rick Dennington

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#13 posted 1024 days ago

See…....that’s one of the reasons I hate Sears…..Again, they have proven that their customer service, along with all the Chinese made crap they carry nowdays, sucks really bad…....I’d be disgruntled too, or really pissed…....

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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pvwoodcrafts

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#14 posted 1023 days ago

I got a belly full of their junk when I started my business in ‘92. Every piece of crap junk , the best they had to offer from RAS to drills , was nonfunctional in under a year. I put a new motor on my RAS in less than a year and in less than another year it needed another. Sears would only say ” I’m sorry but your warranty has expired”. I had 15.00 in that piece of crap in 2 years . Drug it out of the shop and gave it to the first person who wanted it. 19 years later you won’t find a sears tool in my cabinet shop!!!!!

-- mike & judy western md. www. pvwoodcrafts.com pvwccf1@verizon.net

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Bluepine38

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#15 posted 1023 days ago

I have an old Craftsman mower that I use to plow my 2 block long driveway and after 8 years of plowing the
transaxle quit working last winter. It was a Dana transaxle and with the older mowers, the owners manual
gave the parts breakdown, so $60 and three weeks later, two worn clutch keys were replaced and my snow
plow is ready for winter. Yes, I know an ATV would be a better snowplow, but I am a tightwad. On the
older items like my Craftsman shaper Sears was the only place a lot of people out in the sticks could buy
quality tools, but now the urge to compete for the lowest price tools and sales seems to have lowered the
quality bar in lot of the stores.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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Bill White

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#16 posted 1023 days ago

I don’t even go into a Sears store anymore. All the reasons above. My OLD C’man stuff it built like a tank. Too bad it ain’t that way anymore. At one time they had a quality product and a great image. No more. You’d think that they would see/hear about the impressions their customers state.
I’m lucky enough to have a local bearing/belt supply house that has always been able to find any odd stuff I’ve needed.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Rick Dennington

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#17 posted 1023 days ago

Simply amazing…. I never would have thought that Sears would turn out to carry such crap…You can go into a Sears and start looking around (we only have a small outlet type store where I live and not very big) amd start reading boxes, labels, etc., and all say Made in China….Really sad that Sears has gone to the dogs…..
I’ve posted this before, but back in ‘84-85 I bought a RAS, a table saw, and a chop saw (in their big machines). All are still going strong today, and not a seconds trouble with any of them. I’ve never had to replace one single part on them…My old table saw has still got the original belt, pulleys, bearings, and everything that came on it…..RAS and chop saw…...the same…..But… around 1990 like pvwoodcrafts said, it all started going to hell and downhill…Now, as we all know, it’s junk….Glad I bought the good stuff when I did….

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Vrtigo1

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#18 posted 1023 days ago

I am too young to remember Sears making much besides cheap junk. Sure they give you a lifetime warranty on hand tools but that just means when your tool breaks (and I have broken a few) you have to stop what you’re doing, drive to the store and get a new one. Sure for a hobbyist the price is right compared to Snap On but there’s a reason why you see Snap On, Mac, etc iin most mechanic’s shops instead of craftsman.

My local sears has started selling garage furniture (storage, shelving, etc) that looks okay, but as soon as you touch it you can tell it’s total crap built out of pressboard. Normally I have to come up with some excuse to justify the extra money to build vs buy, but in this case I could build the things for a lot less than sears is selling them for. Ordinarily you don’t have to worry about that too much because most people just want to buy something and be done with it but consider their target audience…

I bought a craftsman riding mower 2 years ago and wish I hadn’t. Their customer service is horrible, and nobody in the stores knows anything about what they sell. Of course you can’t blame it all on Sears because it’s happening all over the place. Remember when you used to be able to go to Radio Shack and buy electronic components? I used to ride my bike to the store when I was 10 years old to get parts for whatever project I was tinkering with. Now all they sell is cell phones. It’s a sign of the times. America is getting dumber and dumber. All kids know about these days is Britney Spears and Xbox. That’s actually one of the things that got me interested in WW…actual craftsmanship and taking pride in something. A concept foreign to most folks these days…

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