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Saw Stop Rant.

by agallant
posted 10-17-2011 04:29 PM


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#51 posted 10-18-2011 06:35 PM

Perhaps I’m mistaken, but isn’t one of the uses of a contractor’s saw supposed to be portability between work sites? Perhaps that’s why cast iron wings are not standard. I imagine that some people would not like to have the additional weight to hump around.

I got the professional cabinet saw Sawstop (220 version) and I’m very pleased with it, though I admit I am a newbie with table saws so perhaps I don’t have the experience to notice any flaws in the design or difficulty with blade changes. (I didn’t get the dado option and haven’t yet changed the blade since I got it.) For me, as a novice, the safety aspect was worth the extra money. But I’d agree that it’s not for everyone, and a more experienced woodworker who has different needs and requirements may find that this saw is not right for them. So I wouldn’t say I am an advocate for everyone using saw stops – it’s a tool, and like any tool, there are times when it is appropriate and times when it is not.

If I recall correctly, I believe it cost me something about $3,000 including the 52” rails, the over-arm dust collection, and the T-glide fence. I didn’t get the mobile base because this is not to be a mobile unit in my shop. Yes, I could have gotten a saw with equivalent cutting power for less money. But for me, the safety factor is worth it.

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Joseph Kush

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#52 posted 10-18-2011 09:52 PM

I convinced the Superintendent at my school district to invest in the Industrial SawStop model my first year teaching there and so far it has been worth its price. It has saved one student from a hand injury and another student from having the responsibility of hurting the other student.

I’m very thankful that the saw was purchased and that this technology exists…just think back to the late Seventies when cars only had to have one side mirror and airbags were not even invented yet! SS is a technology that is worth investing in.

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mrg

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#53 posted 10-19-2011 03:41 AM

Let’s see, you are complaining a year after you bought it about the price. Didn’t you look at the saws specs side by side? And compare options and features? The way you optioned it is approximately a $200 difference. So why would you complain now?

-- mrg

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buffalosean

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#54 posted 01-22-2012 10:34 PM

Agallent,
I personally will NEVER buy a saw stop. I personally am not going to pay $3500+ for a saw made in taiwan, with a motor made in taiwan, and a fence made in taiwan.

Living in a depressed area, due to manufacturing jobs going overseas, i try to keep my money as local as possible.

New safety devices will come out in the near future and Saw Stop won’t be able to have a $750 retail mark up, over a $150 item.

When new technology comes out that will integrate the new safety to existing saws, I will gladly put in on my Powermatic 72, which is a better saw than Sawstop in every way (safety excluded).

I would also like to see the “Hot dog test” with the hot dog moving five times faster in the blade. Also, pull a hot dog back into the blade as fast as your hand would come back into the blade in a real kick back situation. I doubt it would leave just a little mark.

-- There are many ways to skin a cat...... but, the butter knife is not recommended

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Alan Robertson

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#55 posted 01-22-2012 11:05 PM

Dead-on MrRon, concerning the finger-count I imagine many people using Saw Stops use cell phones while driving. “Distraction”.
Why not cars that disable c-phones. All seriousness aside, I don’t want gov. safety people requiring me to have their safety products on my equipment. Safety starts with the operator. And besides, I choose not to use my tools to try and butcher hot dogs.
Agallent, I am impressed by people who can speak and work with more than one language. Wish I took the time myself.
Glad Festool doesn’t have a saw-stop, this would really get heated.

-- MrAl

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