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Vintage Monsters of your Dreams

by Bertha
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#1 posted 1147 days ago

that was a very nice badass of a maschine Bertha :-)

Dennis

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#2 posted 1147 days ago

My shop is mostly old machines that I have restored. None of them belong to what I refer to as the “big iron club”. Most of my machines weigh in at 400 lbs or less. The heaviest machine in my shop is probably my Brodhead Garrett J-170 lathe. I believe it is 35”? between centers, it has a 12” swing over the bed and 16” over the gap, and weighs in at 525lbs plus a 70 lb motor. It is a beefy machine.

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#3 posted 1147 days ago

OMG, Hero’s lathe just aroused me (nonsexual). It’s fabulous beyond belief. This is what I hope this thread turns into. Showcase your monsters! You worked hard to get them in your shop, here’s where you take the credit!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#4 posted 1147 days ago

Crescent 36” Bandsaw from OWWM.

http://wiki.owwm.com/CrescentBandSawRestoration3.ashx

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#5 posted 1147 days ago

Check’em out here:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/11698

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#6 posted 1146 days ago

Bertha,
Like Minorhero my shop has mostly old machines which I restored to working order and have used to earn a living. Lucky for me I enjoy rebuilding and maintaining machines especially when I can use them to good effect. Where I came from (Rhodesia) new machinery was hard to get. I brought all my machines tools and timber to NZ when I left what is now called Zimbabwe.These pics were taken long back and I now have new additions such as a mill drill and other stuff for plane making. So some random pictures you can check out.
The bandsaw is the oldest-there is a date stamped into the underside of one of the feet castings-1909 but can only surmise that the machine is German made. I converted the drive wheels from flat belt to vee pulley and used a 3 horse 3 phase motor (itself a fine piece of British engineering) .

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Roger

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#7 posted 1146 days ago

awesome everyone. I really like old, heavy, quality machinery

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#8 posted 1146 days ago

I posted mine a while back, Al:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/6383

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Bertha

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#9 posted 1146 days ago

Wayne entering the fight with a 3-foot Crescent! Someone here owns a Crescent mortiser. Maybe JustFine? Can’t recall.

My friend, Philip, I’m going to need some time to absorb all your beauties. Insert exasperated sigh. 1) extremely cool RAS with probably some impressive dust handling; 2) massive jointer with an unusual bed (stone?); 3) One of the coolest bandsaws I’ve seen in a long time; 4) genius disc sander on lathe outboard. It’s all so marvelous!

More!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 1146 days ago

Phillip, that bandsaw is really sweet.
Al, not sure on the mortice machine.

24” Oliver Planer

20” Oliver Jointer

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#11 posted 1146 days ago

I like the stove black on that massive planer. Look at the crank on that devil! When I bought a 6” jointer, I immediately wished I had an 8”. I wonder what a guy with a 20” Oliver jointer wishes he had:) Can you imagine what that #12 weighs? That table, if solid, looks 4” thick at a minimum.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#12 posted 1146 days ago

Oliver makes a 24”. I just did not find a decent photo. Northfield is also another good brand.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#13 posted 1146 days ago

My wife will not share enough of the garage for the big iron, and I need a parking spot for my GoldWing, so I have to settle for small iron.

Phillip – really nice bandsaw.

Wayne – awesome jointer.

I am a DeWalt kind of a guy, so the bigger the better. Not mine but fun to look at. DeWalt GE

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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Bertha

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#14 posted 1146 days ago

All I can do is repeat Deke (Zeta Zeta?) ...more!!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#15 posted 1146 days ago

While none of these are quite as big as the lathe I posted I figured I my collection of old arn wouldn’t be too far off topic. So here are most of the machines in my shop. Every machine came to me as a rusty pile to one degree or another, and for every machine I took them all apart, cleaned them, fixed them, and repainted them. Each machine takes 30 to 90 days working a few hours a day to complete on average.

Walker Turner 1200 model 15” drill press – my first restore – not the best paint choice

DeWalt 12” RAS

Walker Turner 24” Scroll Saw

Powermatic Model 60 – 8” Jointer

Parks Planer

Delta Unisaw dated 1950

Boice Crane OSS (restore still in progress – it makes a terrifying screeching noise that needs to be resolved).

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#16 posted 1146 days ago

My jointer…Crescent 8” Heavy. Approx 1200# Built approx. 1928

Table saw….Oliver 232 built 1953. Weight 1100#

Drill press…..Powermatic 1150A Built 1972 3 phase

Delta unisaw from 1968…..my first complete OWWM rebuild. It has been sold and replaced by the Oliver

Walker Turner TA1180B 10” table saw. Currently sitting in a corner collecting dust and awaiting the final steps of restoration

Delta 1460 lathe…..built 1962. 1/2hp motor and was a basket case when I found it.

I also have a DeWalt 8” RAS that I do not have pics of. It is from 1955 and looks brand new. It had a very easy life over the past 60 yrs and shows almost no wear.

Delta 14” bandsaw. 1965 version…..

Upgraded to a 1hp baldor made Delta motor and Carter guides

The only machine that is still to be obtained is a surface planer. I would like to have a Powermatic 12”. One day it will come along at a good price

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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Bertha

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#17 posted 1144 days ago

OMG. My work computer won’t display the images. I know what the first thing is I’m doing when I get home!
It was YOU with the Crescent!!! You devil.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#18 posted 1143 days ago

Seeing those big Oliver jointer and planer machines brings up a point that needs making , as they are matched capacity or very close: 20 inch bed width on jointer goes works with the 24 inch bed width on the planer
But there are folk who own say a 20 inch Grizzly type planer yet, if they even have a jointer it often is a 6 inch width or so….
So think about surfacing one face and edge on a Wenge board 20 inches width by 2 inches thick by 8 feet long-it is done by two men able to work together….

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philip marcou

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#19 posted 1143 days ago

Minorhero and Medicken have got some nice machines….
I think my days of doing quality rebuilds are over-now it is just fix and get on with the job as fast as possible-wait until I post a quick bearing replacement job on my Delta Unisaw….

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#20 posted 1143 days ago

Awesome thread here! Keep’m comin’!!

-- Go Blue!

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#21 posted 1143 days ago

These are beauties. But there is an intimidation factor in looking at machines whose longevity on earth is many times your own. Lol

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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#22 posted 1143 days ago

Miles, I wouldn’t call it intimidation, more like satisfaction , happy in the knowledge that there will be no niggling problems like snipe, jointers cutting tapers, how to surface those wide boards, etc etc….

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#23 posted 1143 days ago

That 20” jointer looks like a battleship!

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#24 posted 1143 days ago

Brad, that 20” jointer sounds like a battleship too. Well actually more like the tornado warning siren atop them poles in your town. :)

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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#25 posted 1143 days ago

I’m sure that 20” jointer can sink a battleship!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#26 posted 1143 days ago

I had high hopes for this thread and it has really delivered! The quality level of Ken’s rebuilds really catches my eye. There’s an aesthetic and attention to detail there that’s often lacking. Really excellent.

I’m considering putting a Carter conversion on my 20” Rockwell Bandsaw. How difficult was the assembly/setup and are you pleased with the kit?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#27 posted 1143 days ago

Bertha…..the Carter guides are a piece of cake to install and really make the saw a beast. Now remeber this is “only” a 14” saw and not meant to resaw wide boards. With a good quality blade, I run Timberwolf 1/2” 3tpi, I am ablt to get good quality resaws on 6” hard oak, maple and walnut without balde deflection. You do have to be careful on feed rate or it will wander some. The guides are very easy to install, bolt right on, and easy to adjust. I would look at them again for any saw I had. I am also looking for an older Delta/Rockwell, Delta/Crescent 20” saw myself and will install the Carters when I do get the saw.

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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#28 posted 1143 days ago

Thanks Ken, I plan to order the whole shebang at some point. I really lucked out on my saw, buying it already restored. I’m probably going to buy a new PM cabinet but everything else from here on out’s going to be vintage.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#29 posted 1142 days ago

I’m going to keep that picture handy and use it in mini-lathe discussions. A lathe doesn’t know if he’s being “good” (working wood) or “bad” (working metal);)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#30 posted 1142 days ago

OK, my friend August, I promise you. I will not buy a junk lathe. I will buy a monster, then compell you to help me set it up. So far, beer and pizza has been my currency for moving efforts.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#31 posted 1142 days ago

Make your logo personal, my friend August; that way. it’ll make you smile every time you see it. I suggest letting your children draft it; it’s more pure that way. I don’t generally sell my work, but I defend my brand, below:

Bertha was head cook at my fraternity house in a violently-charged Greek (U.S. college, not Greece:)) atmosphere. She had a way of managing the madness that was inspirational. She was prone to actual fisticuffs herself and never backed down from a fight. I honor her with my logo. It represents strength against terrible opposition to me (she was a Black cook in a Southern university fraternity kitchen). There are lessons here. I’ve now wound myself into a mess, thinking of this; may everyone here have a safe and happy weekend. :)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#32 posted 1142 days ago

Definitely not in the same league as mihorhero or medicken’s and others owwms or restos, but I like my little guys none the less. They have helped me learn lots of new skills. As I learn woodworking, I am also learning about motors and machines and who knows what else…

walker turner band saw 30s-40s, and the resto blog is here Full resto.

Boice crane 6” jointer 40s. Partial resto, did not repaint as the original paint id in very good condition.

The rest are in a slow moving resto queue, but helps appreciate the work that goes into restoring these machines when you look at some of the pictures in other posts

walker turner 15” 900 floor model drill press

craftsman parks planer

the motor for the parks planer after resto

-- Tampa-FL

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#33 posted 1142 days ago

A metal lathe comes in handy. Every shop should have one. Mine is a Sheldon 11”x 36”; came off a 1940’s Liberty ship and still in perfect condition.

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boardmaker

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#34 posted 1142 days ago

I’m waiting for someone to post a yates-american cloverleaf.

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philip marcou

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#35 posted 1142 days ago

Hey Ron,
Can we see a picture of the Sheldon 11” ?

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Bertha

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#36 posted 1141 days ago

^I’d love to see that Sheldon as well. And the Yates!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#37 posted 1139 days ago

Here is one that will make Tim the Toolman Tailor proud….

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/2440597527.html

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#38 posted 1139 days ago

I’m about getting closer to finishing my little monster. Delta Homecraft 28-110 10 inch bandsaw. I need a motor pulley, blade and build a stand for it. It will be 60 years old next month. It’s a lot of fun cleaning, disassembling, painting and bringing it back. I’d recommend getting an old machine and giving it a try.

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#39 posted 1139 days ago

A.J Fay and Egan 16” jointer; from 1923, 5 hp Leeson motor, 3-knife cutter head.

Rob

-- Rob-Yorktown "Shop's still not done, Tools are bought, Wood is bought, need to find time to start a project.."

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philip marcou

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#40 posted 1139 days ago

Rob, that is looking like a fine machine. Can you show close up pictures of the bearing housings and the cutter block? Is it belt drive ? Is the motor in its place there or in a temporary position? How many horse power? Are those tables steel or cast iron?

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#41 posted 1139 days ago

Here’s my two cents Al. While it’s not a monster, it is vintage. My old Boice Crane 10” tablesaw goes back to 1964. A model 4500 Challenger. It’s still gets used almost daily.

Here is how it looked for the longest.

My attempt at some dust collection and a low budget extension

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#42 posted 1138 days ago

Philip,

Direct drive Leeson 5 hp motor, 240v, 1ph. (not original). The original Babbet bearings were abandoned and Fafner bearings added. It has a LOVEJOY coupling between the motor and main shaft. The top is cast. The reason for the wood block, is because the main shaft was elevated to get above the existing Babbet bearing. All of this work was done prior to my ownership. I have debated trying to restore it, but the top covers to the Babbet bearings are long gone. If I don’t restore it, I may just eventually get a BYRD cutter head for it. Rob

-- Rob-Yorktown "Shop's still not done, Tools are bought, Wood is bought, need to find time to start a project.."

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Bertha

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#43 posted 1138 days ago

Rob, August could probably fashion covers for a reasonable price. You could even model them yourself with styrofoam and plexiglass over them. Just thinking.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#44 posted 1138 days ago

Rob,
If you decided to upgrade it from the unfortunate installation of the pillow block bearings and especially if you put in a Byrd cutter head I believe from what I can see that one could open out the old babbit housing to accommodate ball or needle bearings, or to accommodate separate units which have those bearings fitted. And I have seen damaged table ends over the cutters improved from original by rebating a slotted brass piece into the end. Would need the right kind of metal head…..

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#45 posted 1137 days ago

I just saw a saw on CL that might qualify for this thread. Or maybe this is a ‘Monster of Your Nightmares’:

The description is:
Old saw rig, 6hp Fairbanks-Morse eng. mounted on early Dodge Bros. car frame.

Here is the listing with more photos, while it lasts.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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Bertha

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#46 posted 1137 days ago

@Darrell, she’s a beauty! It just struck me, why are TS inserts ovoid instead of square? They’d sure be easier to make.

@ Rob, she is pin-up material my friend. My little 6 terrifies me at times. I can’t even imagine standing in front of 16 inches of 5hp direct. She’s beyond gorgeous.

@ PM, that would be a terrifying day to slot that outfeed table. I’m confused how the elevation of the pillowblock assembly (and hence the motor spacer) still allowed mating of the cutter to the in/out tables. Would you have to resort to a smaller diameter cutter assembly, cut the knives back; or does the table have room to accommodate that lift. I suspect the lovejoy coupling can explain matters in the rear. Anyway, she’s gorgeous.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#47 posted 1137 days ago

Here’s a drill press I have. Not in use anymore but still have it.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#48 posted 1137 days ago

Curt -

I love old drilling machines. I have three Buffalo Forge machines. The big one I wrote about here.

This is a flat-belt machine that I have not done anything to yet.

This is a post drill that I have working very well.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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#49 posted 1137 days ago

My Dream planer but I have some money to save its a 40” planer with a 50hp main motor and a 5hp feed system as well as 3/4hp table lift system. I can get it for the bargain price of $18,500

-- http://aewoodworks.webs.com

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#50 posted 1137 days ago

You lost me at 5hp feed motor. How incredible. Who makes it?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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