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What router is this? and can I use it in a table?

by DaveMoore
posted 06-03-2011 11:38 AM


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bigike

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#1 posted 06-03-2011 12:16 PM

Oh yea I think this is a 3hp router, there is a dewalt that has been made after this one i think it’s a DW625 the one you have is the European model I think.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#2 posted 06-03-2011 01:44 PM

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?159644-ELU-3339-Black-amp-Decker-Electronic-Plunge-Router
http://www.mtmc.co.uk/Spare-Parts/Elu-Spare-Parts/Wood-Working/Routers,Jointers,Trimmers/Routers__c-p-0-0-240-243-12705040-12705129-12705322.aspx

Here are a couple os sites I found with parts but one you have to lookon the router and see if there is any info on it besides the sticker that sayes ELU on the front.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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DaveMoore

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#3 posted 06-03-2011 02:24 PM

Thanks a lot for your help Ike. The router seems to be too small to be the same as the DW625, (should’ve taken a picture with my hands on it). Although, from what i’ve found on the internet, the dewalt routers are definitely based on the ELU ones. I’m gonna try cleaning the red paint off it, to see if there are any clues lurking under there.

Thanks for the link to mtmc.co.uk, looks like they should be able to get me the parts i need.

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richgreer

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#4 posted 06-03-2011 02:29 PM

I’ll chime in to say that I find plunge routers to be very undesirable for use in a table.

You might have the option of removing the base of the router and attach the motor and collet to a router lift, but that would cost as much as buying a fixed base router. In addition, you may have trouble finding a router lift that will accept this particular router.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#5 posted 06-03-2011 02:37 PM

I really like the pencil depth adjustment.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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DaveMoore

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#6 posted 06-03-2011 02:41 PM

Hey Rich, thanks for the input. I agree with you that a plunge router probably isn’t the best, but I don’t do that much woodworking so I can’t really justify getting a second router…unless someone here thinks the router I have would be dangerous to use in a router table, in which case I suppose I’d just HAVE to buy a second one :-)

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DaveMoore

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#7 posted 06-03-2011 02:43 PM

matches the paint spot nicely Chris :-)

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#8 posted 06-03-2011 03:06 PM

If it has variable speed, you can use it in the table. If not, you can still use it but will be limited to smaller bits that can run at full speed, or you could add a speed controller to it if it doesn’t have soft start.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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DaveMoore

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#9 posted 06-03-2011 03:16 PM

Scott, it does have variable speed so i guess that shouldn’t be a problem. I’m just not exactly sure how to attach it to a router table – will those two small threaded holes be enough to hold it stable?

Thanks

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#10 posted 06-03-2011 03:21 PM

”I agree with you that a plunge router probably isn’t the best, but I don’t do that much woodworking so I can’t really justify getting a second router…unless someone here thinks the router I have would be dangerous to use in a router table, in which case I suppose I’d just HAVE to buy a second one :-)”
THAT THING IS A DEATH TRAP!!!!

that’s what you were looking for, right? ;)

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DaveMoore

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#11 posted 06-03-2011 03:24 PM

WOW!!!....I’d better go out right now and get a second router!! :-D

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#12 posted 06-03-2011 04:02 PM

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#13 posted 06-03-2011 04:39 PM

It’s a MOF 96

Takes an 8mm collet I think.

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DaveMoore

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#14 posted 06-03-2011 04:56 PM

Thanks Loren, that’s a great help.

Rich, Nice router but i’m in Europe so it wouldn’t work for me here. On a side note, I hate how cheap you guys can get tools over there :-)

And since nobody seems to have any serious objections, I guess I should be able to screw it to a bit of plywood and make me a router table! ... although i probably will find an excuse to buy a second router eventually :-)

Thanks for all the help guys

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bigike

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#15 posted 06-03-2011 04:57 PM

That’s another thing I have no idea how youwould mt this in a table those holes are for a guide bushing and there are no other holes to mt it. Unless you make somekind of clamp system to hold it on there I think it might just be for handheld routing that’s it plus you said it’s small.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#16 posted 06-03-2011 05:38 PM

ahh…..i hadn’t realized that’s what those holes were for. Thanks Ike

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#17 posted 06-03-2011 05:47 PM

Just drill new holes for mounting.

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#18 posted 06-03-2011 05:48 PM

It’s a mof 96 one of the smaller Elu Dewalt routers a bit underpowered for a serious table router. You Americans have abetter idea we seem only to be lumbered with plunge models .In my opinion use it for normal routing smaller cutters only and get something better for a table. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Loren

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#19 posted 06-03-2011 06:05 PM

Looks like a great little router for topside use: dados and grooves and
mortises and things like that. I wouldn’t put it in a table myself,
because it’s hard to adjust a router like that in a table and also
the dust falling into it will burn it out faster.

The Elu routers are said to be some of the best ever made. Elu
was bought-out by other companies and while the newer routers
may look like the Elu designs, I have read that the quality is not
as high.

Black and Decker bought Elu just to grab their superior router
designs.

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patron

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#20 posted 06-03-2011 06:37 PM

just drill some (at least 3 holes in it 4 would be better)
as MrRon suggested
and mount it in said box or table

you will be limited to the shank size it takes
in bits for it
just counter sink screws from the top
and use wing nuts if you like (or can)
to take it out to use by hand

this is not a plunge router
but you get the idea


i’ve done this for years on job sites
where a router and sawhorses
are to wobbly for good repetetive work

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Don W

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#21 posted 06-03-2011 07:00 PM

Here is how I use a router in a router table. I made a lifter to assist with adjustment.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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timber715

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#22 posted 06-03-2011 07:08 PM

ELU routers are the basis of Dewalts and some Bosch models, they are so good that several companies followed their design. Iirc, dewalt bought ELU then later B&D bought dewalt… and from there quality slid.

-- timber715 - Manila, Philippines

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DaveMoore

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#23 posted 06-03-2011 07:33 PM

Thanks for all the advice, you guys have really been a great help.

I hadn’t really thought about drilling holes in the base but that’s a great suggestion. Think I’ll give it a go and see how it works out in the short term. In the long term, I guess I’ll buy a second router with a bit more oomph for mounting in a table.

Also, excellent router lift Don, very clever!

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#24 posted 06-03-2011 08:40 PM

that’s a very nice find, ELU is a highly prised swiss tool company. i know some that only swear by these little routers, but only for lose hand routing.
they keep their value somewhat like festool and last for decades.
too bad DeWalt bought them over.

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philip marcou

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#25 posted 06-04-2011 12:54 PM

It is an Elu model MOF 96 as already stated. An excellent high quality Swiss made machine which disappeared when Blagg & Decker took over that company. They made it as a single speed or as a variable speed (MOF96 E). Standard collet was either 1/4inch or 6mm and it could also take an 8mm
They also made a small aluminium table to mount it in and it fixed to that with the same rods passing through the base that the fence can be attached to. You can remove the legs from the table, which enables one to mount the router into a bigger custom made table. Certainly not underpowered for a compact 1/4 -3/8 inch router, and great to use free handed.
They made a big daddy in the form of model 177E which was 1/2 inch capacity, variable speed with plenty of power.
I have both models and have had much work out of them.
Several other lesser known companies make routers very similar in appearance to this MoF96 -which means that they fit that table and use the same bushings, collets, fences etc. You might even be able to locate one of those tables. I have a “copy cat ” MOF 96E which has exactly the same base and all attachments are interchangeable.
Original equipment spare parts are no longer available from the manufacturer but items like bearings are standard sizes.

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miles125

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#26 posted 06-04-2011 01:13 PM

I had the bosch version of this. Pawned it after coming to the conclusion i just hate plunge routers period. Lol

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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philip marcou

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#27 posted 06-06-2011 12:38 PM

Dave, here are pictures of a Chezk version of the MOF96E. You can see how the depth control works and the two rods which are used to attach a fence, support base , attach to table etc. The aluminium support at the top of the depth control screw was added by me.

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