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Handplanes of your dreams

by Bertha
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bandit571

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#26801 posted 565 days ago

However, Alice Cooper does Shock Metal Rock. Of course, when you can write songs like “I’ll bite your face off”, or “Hey! Stooopid!”, or even “Feed my Frankenstein” and “Halo of Flies”, you have left Patty Boone way behind.

Thinking of NOT using my router, and just doing the edges of that Cheap-assed Table with a handplane. Let’s see, beveled edges, or a round-over? I don’t have the cove plane, it’s out at the old shop.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Emma Walker

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#26802 posted 565 days ago

What an odd looking little plane… I like odd! So, is worth $150
Rare Iron Coach Maker’s T Rabbet Plane
www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Iron-Coach-Makers-T-Rabbet-Plane-/400400591602?pt=LHDefaultDomain0Rare Iron Coach Maker’s T Rabbet Plane&hash=item5d39bc2af2

EDIT: no I don’t plan on buying it.

-- I'm a twisted 2x4 in a pile of straight lumber.

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terryR

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#26803 posted 564 days ago

Or this lovely Sargent block…type1…still for sale on fleaBay…

nice patina IMO…but I can’t swing the $500 right now…friggin diesel truck is gonna get that money for repairs. bummer when you look at the long term value of each! (unless you happen to be out of groceries, maybe!)

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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LukieB

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#26804 posted 564 days ago

Tony, the Lever cap and the size, the 60/60-1/2 are smaller than the 65. Same blade adjustment mechanism though.

Shep, is probably avoiding me, he said he’d call the morning after and never did : ( LOL

Kidding of course, I’m pretty sure he’s in South Dakota working on getting a new shop going, must be a long way from an internet connection.

-- Lucas, "Someday woodworks will be my real job, until then, there's this http://www.melbrownfarmsupply.com"

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Don W

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#26805 posted 564 days ago

wow Terry, you’re really getting into the collector status. That is a gorgeous sargent though.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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terryR

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#26806 posted 564 days ago

Nah, Don, I’m just dreamin’ of that type1…bidding on sargent 5xxx block planes, though, if you have duplicates???

Waiting for the shop to warm above 40 degrees…

-- tr ...see one, do one, teach one...

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Don W

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#26807 posted 564 days ago

no dup’s Terry. Dreaming is good!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Mosquito

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#26808 posted 564 days ago

Woo! New calendar page :-)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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Gshepherd

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#26809 posted 564 days ago

Lucas, does coyote ugly mean anything??????LOL

All is well, lots of things to still get done…... Freakin Cold…..not uncommon to get some -20 below in the middle of the state….... Visiting a few relatives…..If all goes well several more weeks be getting the rest of the equipment to get real busy moving again….

-- What we do in life will Echo through Eternity........

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Dan

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#26810 posted 564 days ago

Off topic but wanted to share this photo..

This just happened right in front of my office building… No it is not my vehicle…

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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chrisstef

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#26811 posted 564 days ago

Wow thats some serious Friday entertainment. No more ice on the windshield though!

“Like a good neighbor, StateFarm is there” ... with a fire extinguisher.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Dan

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#26812 posted 564 days ago

I was waiting for it to blow up like they do in the movies but it never happened. It sat there in flames for a good 10 min before the FD showed up and no big explosion…

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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ksSlim

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#26813 posted 564 days ago

Someone got real about deicing the streets

-- Sawdust and shavings are therapeutic

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shampeon

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#26814 posted 564 days ago

I went through a period of about 3 months where I saw 7 different RVs on fire, including a spectacular one at a gas station where the flames ignited the station’s roof thing over the pumps. It felt like the universe was trying to tell me something.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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ShaneA

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#26815 posted 564 days ago

Eh…it will buff out. Maybe?

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Mosquito

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#26816 posted 564 days ago

lol Shane. That’s what I was thinking.

My dad, brother and I were eating at subway after snowmobiling a few years ago and someone came flying into the BP across the street, opens up the hood, rips out the hood liner (which is on fire) and throws it on the ground. Just so happens that where they stopped was right over the fuel filling spots… Someone working there came running out arms flailing and made them pick up/kick them away from there lol

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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racerglen

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#26817 posted 564 days ago

For Emma..rockin’
Todos Santos, Baja California, this week, aparentrly one of several Hotel Californias..
My wife commented it smelled like the ‘60’s ..still wondering how she knew that..

;-)
Not a plane or saw in the place but loved the ‘67 Fairlane wagon in front and the great drinkies across the street..Mrs even got a first, a magraurita to go !
(Hay-Zeus..go away for a week and try to catchup on alomost 400 posts !)


-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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Brad

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#26818 posted 564 days ago

Dan….what did you do? Did you use some electronic device on that SUV for cutting you off or something?

In all my years, I’ve never seen a car on fire before.It goes to show you how far engineers and manufacturers have come to field products that are relatively safe….from fire.

-- "People's lives are their own rewards or punishments."

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Don W

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#26819 posted 564 days ago

coming over woodford mountain this summer there was an SUV on the very top ( a tourist type pull off) with flames shooting 10-12’ above the car. The tourist must have seen it coming because all there stuff (sleeping backs, duffle bags, coolers, life vest etc) were in a big pile about 30’ away.

When I hit the bottom of the mountain, probably about 15 miles, the fire trucks were just headed up. I think we could assume it was totaled.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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bandit571

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#26820 posted 564 days ago

a Question for the group:

Smoothers. Not interested on brand names, or who made what.

The Question: What size does everyone use the most? Is It a #3? Maybe a #4? Maybe someting a little longer?

Seems I will be working a tabletop down to smooth. Right now, it has been acting as my bench

This one has a few challenges though

Just a little “Knotty”. The plane is a #3 size.

So, top for the question is 20” wide, by 36” long. Your choice of a size plane for this is…......?

( i have a few #3s, #4s , #5-1/2, couple of #5s, and a couple of #6s. Don’t think the old #8c would quite work, never know…)

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Don W

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#26821 posted 564 days ago

last week end it was the #4 1/2, but I would say I use my 604 the most. I had about 6 or 8 of these to do.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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JayT

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#26822 posted 564 days ago

I use a #4 for most smoothing right now. Just picked up and need to work over a Type 11 5-1/2 that I intend to turn into a super smoother for larger pieces. (I know, no pics or it didn’t happen. I’ve got to finish another restore before getting too far into the 5-1/2)

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Brad

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#26823 posted 564 days ago

I reach for my SB #3 the most. Maybe it’s the O-1 blade, but it can leave a glassy finish finer than my LN #4 using an A-2 blade. Not that the LN doesn’t come close. But when I only use the smoothing plane for final finishing and no sandpaper, I push the #3 across the wood.

-- "People's lives are their own rewards or punishments."

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TechRedneck

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#26824 posted 564 days ago

For those in their shops in the evenings, I usually tune in to Alice Cooper Live. He hosts a nightly show on the local rock station up here in the hills. It goes nation wide I believe. Some great old rock on that show and he is pretty entertaining.

As for the smoothers, my #4, #605 and LA Block (which I want to get a tote for one of these days)

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#26825 posted 564 days ago

Something that size, the #4 1/2 would be the smoother of choice, working to smaller ones (#3 or even the #2) if there were problem areas.

Alice Cooper is one of my all-time favorites. Many, many a time under the headphones listening to the Love It to Death alum, or Nightmare, or even side two of Lace and Whiskey. A couple years ago I got ahold of his first album, Pretties for You. Very weird, almost Zappa like. Then there’s Shoe Salesman on his second album, Easy Action. Total ear worm of a song. Total sweetness.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#26826 posted 564 days ago

Oh, and not a plane pic, but meh…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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lysdexic

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#26827 posted 564 days ago

That comment changes my opinion of you Smit. Not much, but it does.

Bandit, a 4 1/2 is my go to smoother.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#26828 posted 564 days ago

Wonder if change is good in this case, or ??

I gotta go add some outlets to a workbench now, c’ya later.

This pic also not a plane. Again, meh.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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thedude50

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#26829 posted 564 days ago

I either use my bedrock 604 1/2 or one of the two LN 4 1/2 s they are the best for me I have big hands and the 603 is small and the 602 or the no1 are like kids toys in my big hands. But no mater what smoother you choose the most important thing is the blade must be the sharpest you can manage and then make it sharper. The back has to be a mirror on the cut line so the easiest way to get that is with the Charlsworth ruler trick. and the bevel should look like glass otherwise you don’t have a smoother.

-- when I am not on Lumberjocks I am on @ http://thisoldworkshop.com where we allow free speech

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ShaneA

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#26830 posted 564 days ago

Scott, are those Veritas new to you? I hadn’t realized you were hoarding them like that. Are the handles all different woods? Didn’t even know that was/is an option. Sweet!

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Emma Walker

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#26831 posted 564 days ago

What can you tell me about Anant planes? I found this on craigslist, they want $20.00 for it. After paying $7.00 for a Handyman and finding out that Don W. wouldn’t buy one for even $2.00 I thought I should ask first.

-- I'm a twisted 2x4 in a pile of straight lumber.

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shampeon

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#26832 posted 564 days ago

Not worth $20, Em. Anant are made in India from the old Record castings, but quality-wise they’re nothing great. Better off putting that Jackson toward an old Sargent, Stanley, Millers Falls, etc.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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AnthonyReed

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#26833 posted 564 days ago

Thank ya much Lucas.

Whatcha doin there Scott?

-- ~Tony

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lysdexic

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#26834 posted 564 days ago

Shane, yes and no. I’ve had the jack and the jointer for a couple of years. Superb planes. The real synergy exists when you have all three because the irons are interchangeable. Thus, I thought about the BU smoother (164H) for some time. Then with the addition of a 4 1/2 there just wasn’t a need. Plus there is always the gorgeous LN 164. So, I just thought about it some more.

I am a sucker for free shipping. Those bastards get me every time. So I decided to complete the set and buy the BU smoother.

As I waited for my package to arrive I was hit with a left hook. Like out of no where Smitty posts picture of his LN 164. Jaw dropping beauty. After being smitten with Smitty’s tool I kept telling myself the the Veritas is a good looking plane too, trying to brace myself against disappointment.

Well, that is what happened but for a surprising reason. I wasn’t in the mood to compromise so when I first saw the totes the disappointment was visceral. There were entirely a different color. They were orange. The fact that you thought they are different species proves it. I just couldn’t like it. I emailed Lee Valley and they have no mechanism to switch out totes but would be happy to accept the plane in return. They were very nice. So that is what I did – shipped back the smoother.

Now I am back to thinking about it again.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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lysdexic

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#26835 posted 564 days ago

Tony, I am a hand model.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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lysdexic

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#26836 posted 564 days ago

Are any of you Atlanta boys going to the LN tool event at Highland Hardware this weekend?

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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Emma Walker

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#26837 posted 564 days ago

Thanks Shamp,
How about this stanley 4 1/2 for $45
http://eugene.craigslist.org/tls/3575392027.html

-- I'm a twisted 2x4 in a pile of straight lumber.

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Richard

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#26838 posted 564 days ago

$45 is a good price assuming it is all there and no hidden damage or repairs, etc.

-- "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain

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lysdexic

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#26839 posted 564 days ago

Emma, that 4 1/2 is enticing so long as it checks out like Richard says.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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ShaneA

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#26840 posted 564 days ago

Smitty’s LN is a beauty, but I am digging the tri-color thing you got going. Plus, I think the LV looks (or lack there of) are becoming less objectionable to me. So are you getting a LN too is the question? You know, I say why not. Lifetime tool, plus pretty awesome.

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Emma Walker

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#26841 posted 564 days ago

Thanks, Richard and lysdexic

I’ll ask some questions from the seller.

Bonus pic.

-- I'm a twisted 2x4 in a pile of straight lumber.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#26842 posted 564 days ago

Strong bonus there, Emma!

Somebody say #164? :-)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Emma Walker

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#26843 posted 564 days ago

Marsh brand plane… whats the story behind these planes?
I can’t believe how many different brands of planes I keep coming up with in my searches of planes.

Think maybe I caught the plane bug…

-- I'm a twisted 2x4 in a pile of straight lumber.

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#26844 posted 563 days ago

Hey Scotty, I went to the Highland Event yesterday on my lunch break and filled out my set of easy tools with the finisher (gotta use that 1-item 25% off coupon where it counts).

My buddy/co-worker came down and picked up the Knew Concepts titanium fret saw. I am still recovering from the jealousy, but it just wasn’t in this months tool budget.

I also met Michel Auriou, a very nice fella with some even nicer rasps. I have one and will probably pick up a couple more at tax time.

-- Chris @ Atlanta - JGM - Occam's razor tells us that when you hear hoofs, think horses not zebras.

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bandit571

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#26845 posted 563 days ago

Weeeel ’ let’s see. I don’t have a 4-1/2, wasn’t from lack of trying, just limited budget. I don’t have them fancy LNs or LVs. See above.

I guess I could sharpen up that Union #5A and use it to smooth out that Knotty Old Pine. A #6 might be over kill. Might use either the M-F #8, or a block plane to do an edge treatment. Bevel edges (all four), would be the land of M-F. A nice round over, even in end grain, would be the job of my block plane.

First off, I need about 15-20 “winks” after working the past 12 hours. Then maybe finish up a base for a Cheap Table. First the nap,Ta….

As for a mallet

As for me…ZZZZzzzzzzz

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Brad

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#26846 posted 563 days ago

Any time I see an unusual plane, and it’s reasonably priced and it’s in decent shape, I buy it. And so it was with this Stanley No. 194.

The description from Patrick’s Blood & Gore site is below.

#194 Fibre board beveler plane, 8 3/8”L, the width of a razor blade, 1 1/2lbs, 1936 – 1958
“Oh joy, another plane for fiber board, but this one is special (can you say special?). It cuts a chamfer up to 3/8”W on fiber board. One woulda thought world peace was at hand with the introduction of this marvelous piece of technology, where folks worldwide would busy themselves with beveling fiber board all day. But, no, we had two wars to suffer through during its production. Hmmm, is there a cause and effect here, somewhere? “

I have one question. This one came with a razor blade, so I either need to purchase a vintage blade or craft my own. Does anyone have a #194 blade they can spare (i.e. sell me)? And if not, would you provide the dimensions of the OEM blade? I could craft one from an old saw plate I’m thinking.

-- "People's lives are their own rewards or punishments."

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Dan Krager

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#26847 posted 563 days ago

I don’t know just why, but it somehow seems that a plane till is in order. :) I have a design in mind which is a compilation of several projects posted here. I’ll have to work it out and eventually post something here. Good blog fodder?

DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com

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bandit571

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#26848 posted 563 days ago

Maybe a drawer, or two?

Might need something a little more sturdy, for them long ones?

Just saying…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#26849 posted 563 days ago

Excellent fodder for a blog series, Dan.

Brad, what a strange plane! No iron here, sorry.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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OnlyJustME

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#26850 posted 563 days ago

Dan, no need to bother with building a till. You can just send me any loose planes you have laying around and i’ll take care of it.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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