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Too many ads on lumberjocks site these days

by Lloyd Davies
posted 03-23-2011 11:45 PM

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#1 posted 03-23-2011 11:54 PM

Well the site must pay for the staff, material and bandwidth.

That space there is a prime add real estate that should fetch more than the sides.

It’s either that or a subscription based membership.

I feel it is still better than many sites out there.

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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#2 posted 03-24-2011 12:07 AM

I haven’t noticed. Being on the internet alot it seems my mind is trained to skip over the ads and they never bother me. They are just part of it…..

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#3 posted 03-24-2011 12:16 AM

Nope, don’t think they are intrusive at all. As a matter of fact, my hats off to the new owners for keeping this site free. My hats off to Martin for thinking ahead and realizing that it was getting to big for just him and selling to a company that is willing to work with him to keep us happy.

--, Making design and application one. †

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#4 posted 03-24-2011 12:41 AM

To me it doesn’t appear that the size or number of the adds have changed. One thing that I have noticed though is that there is a wider variety of advertisers in the same spaces that at one time showed “sponsor this page” or something close to that.

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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#5 posted 03-24-2011 02:00 AM

Lloyd, while I do see some ads they are either on the right hand margin or just under the tabs. I really do not get any interference with viewing projects, forums and their associated comments. I am running Firefox rather than IE so that may account for the difference.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#6 posted 03-24-2011 02:06 AM

For a free site as great as this, the ads are no bother at all. The bills need to be paid some how.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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#7 posted 03-24-2011 03:06 AM

I don’t mind the Ads at all. In fact I found a Hardwood Supplier near me that I didn’t know existed thanks to their Ad. I’ve also found a few of the “Tools Ads” to be interesting to look at.

No Viagra ads yet though ..WAIT! Wrong thing to say! I DON’T need them! A Smile and or A Wink does it for me!!

-- LIFE is what happens when you're planning on doing Other Things!

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#8 posted 03-24-2011 03:37 AM

After a while it just becomes noise. Too many buttons. Too many adds. Just don’t need more noise. Hardly even come around anymore.

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#9 posted 03-24-2011 05:25 AM

I understand sites need funds to keep afloat but sometimes when you’re on the web 10-12 hrs a day.. the flashing and distraction of all the advertisements can get really old. There is an easy way to suppress them, especially if you use Firefox as your browser. You can block almost any web ad if you go to to top menu Tools>Add-ons>Get Add-ons and install AdBlock Plus or Ad Blocker.. They really cut down on the noise of ads and let you surf in peace. All your browser displays is empty space where the ads usually display. Give it a try… you can always disable the add-ons with the simple click of the mouse if you want them back again.

-- Scott, Colorado

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#10 posted 03-24-2011 06:23 AM

I subscribe to the RSS feed, so I usually don’t see all the ads unless I come to the site itself to see pictures or more of a thread. That takes the load off re: ads for me.

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#11 posted 03-24-2011 06:33 AM

I’ve seen other posts about the ads, I have to say I don’t get it. I haven’t seen a change, I only get one ad along the right side, and one “barely there” ad at the top. I am a computer moron, so maybe whatever system I have keeps things at bay?

Oh, and I now see a small ad at the bottom, but I went looking for it. I love this site and I’m learning tons from it. If it takes ads to keep it going, I have no problems with that. I’ve been a member at gardening sites that have all but collasped due to going to paid memberships with few ads. When members leave for whatever reasons, the sites wither away…

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#12 posted 03-24-2011 06:44 AM

a petty complaint. The ads dont bother me one bit…....nodda a chance

if its really bothersome, mail them a healthy monetary donation and they might reduce the ad size ?

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#13 posted 03-24-2011 07:36 AM

I’m with Rick and Moron on this deal….. they don’t bother me at all, and I pay no attention to them.

Just keep focused on what you’re doing, like typing and griping about the ads….you’ll be ok…...:)).

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....

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#14 posted 03-24-2011 01:17 PM

Ads are everywhere. The ads I don’t like are phone calls from pesky salespeople desparate to meet their quotas among others.

-- No matter how many factors go into thinking about a project, there is always one important new discovery to be made.

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#15 posted 03-24-2011 01:40 PM

It’s interesting how everything happening (or not happening) on this site lately can be quickly attributed to “sells out to the money-grabbing internet corporation”. I can assure you that there were no changes made to the site that I didn’t agree with.

And the facts about the ads are simple… we’ve removed one banner from the right sidebar that was visible on all pages so the total number of banners on the pages was actually decreased from four to three. One new banner was added instead but only on certain pages (eg. at the end of project posting) BUT this new ad is visible only to guests, members don’t see it. I’m really not sure how this change can be described as worse for the LJ members.

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#16 posted 03-24-2011 02:03 PM

I don’t agree, I like to see the ads, keeps you apprised of new tools and makes the site more interesting. I visit 2 or 3 times a day and enjoy all. Sorry to disagree Lloyd.

-- Jack Keefe Shediac NB Canada

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#17 posted 03-24-2011 02:51 PM

If you had not said anything I would not have noticed. Being that,they are hardly intrusive.

-- honing my craft one mistake at a time.

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#18 posted 03-24-2011 03:27 PM

As I’m reading this thread, I only see 2 ads; one banner at the top and one medium-sized one on the right sidebar, hardly intrusive.

Someone told me once that nothing happens and the money doesn’t start flowing until a sale is made so, to my thinking, a few ads are necessary to keep commerce moving. After all, we would advertise our own products if we wanted to sell them.

Oh, I think it was a salesman that told me that.

-- Best regards, Jack -- I may not be good, but I'm slow --

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#19 posted 03-24-2011 03:56 PM

I use google chrome with an ad-block extension, as a result, I never see any ads on any site! Might be something to try!

-- Always keep a stash of band-aids in your workshop!

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#20 posted 03-24-2011 04:10 PM

I don’t think the ads are intrusive—small one at the top and some along the right side. I think it’s actually neat that the ads on the right many times are related to the subject of the post I’m on. For instance, a drawer ad when I’m looking at a cabinet that was built by an LJ member.

Thanks, Martin, for explaining why I do see ads below the posts on my iPhone when I’m not logged in. Those ads make sense now.

And, once again, Thanks, Martin, for such a great site. I’ve learned a lot, I have seen so many beautiful creations, and I am continually amazed by the creative abilities of the members here.

-- Verna -- Indianapolis, IN

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#21 posted 03-24-2011 04:16 PM

Site is great Martin!


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#22 posted 03-24-2011 04:16 PM

I don’t mind static ads but the flashing ads bother me a lot and can actually be dangerous to some folks.

Web design:
As with video games, rapidly changing images or highly regular patterns such as flashing banner ads or irregular fonts can trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#23 posted 03-24-2011 04:17 PM

Not a problem, I prefer the free site to paying for one and still getting ads

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#24 posted 03-24-2011 04:17 PM

The Ads don’t bother me. In the beginning the Adds didn’t exist at all and we all had lots of fun on Martins dime. We knew what we had and no-one complained when the first adds started because we knew our joy would be over if the computers and bandwidth bill didn’t get paid.

Enjoy the site and train your eyes to find what you desire.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia †

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#25 posted 03-24-2011 04:28 PM

gotta pay the bills somehow…I don’t have a problem with them at all

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#26 posted 03-24-2011 05:02 PM

Lumberjocks is an incredibly valuable resource for all of us, who don’t pay a dime to take advantage of it. Sites like this don’t create themselves, program themselves, maintain themselves. I can’t imagine the enormous amount of work that goes on in the background to make Lumberjocks so easy to work with and so helpful and enjoyable. There are always going to be people who expect something for nothing, for everything to just magically appear all for them and who think everything is some big corporate conspiracy against them. It’s pretty simple really. Martin and his team deserve to be compensated for the work they do, like everyone else. If you don’t like Lumberjocks, no one is forcing you to come back.

-- Mitch, Also blog at

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#27 posted 03-24-2011 06:54 PM

Like Martin said, those ads below projects and forum topics are only for guests. If you are signed in you won’t see those ads. If you follow a link to a forum or something from an email notification you may see them if you haven’t signed into LJ’s yet. Once you sign in all those ads are gone and only the ads on the side remain, which Martin said they actually decreased. So if the extra ads bother you, then just make sure you sign in first. Easy fix.

I think that’s a great way to not make the members have to see the ads but still generate income by having some. Maybe that new income will help bring about new features and upgrades. I doubt all of us are donating or wanting to pay to be members here so I appreciate it. I also believe Martin thought long and hard about what he was doing before asking for help with the site and also he made sure that he’d still be able to help direct the site the way it needed to go without selling out, so Thanks Martin!

-- Matt -

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#28 posted 03-24-2011 07:31 PM

I don’t see any problem with the ads. It’s one of the ways web sites pay their overhead and hopefully make a profit. I don’t really pay much attention to them and I’ll bet a lot of you don’t either. It’s sort of like all of that junk they put in a newspaper, it helps pay the cost so the readers can keep reading the paper.

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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#29 posted 03-24-2011 07:40 PM

I don’t notice them that much. However, I will say this, if the Flash animated ads that pop up over what ever you’re doing and keep you from doing anything until they are finished start to show up here, I don’t think I’ll stay around much after that.

-- "At its best, life is completely unpredictable." - Christopher Walken

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#30 posted 03-24-2011 08:24 PM

The ads don’t bother me at all … if I were paying for access to this site, it might be a different story, but given the fact that I have access to good content and great advice for no cash outlay, I can tolerate the modest amount of advertising we see here.


-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#31 posted 03-24-2011 09:52 PM

The ads don’t bother me, are sometimes useful to clue me in to sales and promotions from some good vendors, and best of all, provides revenue to keep LJs afloat… All in all a good thing…

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#32 posted 03-24-2011 11:47 PM

Having been married for almost forty years now, I learned a long time ago to shut out stuff that bothered
me (she does too). As long as the ads don’t pop up over what I’m reading, I really don’t even notice them. Our local newspaper’s website does that all the time, which becomes very annoying. And now they want to charge you to use the site!

Thanks Martin, for all the great work you’ve done.


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#33 posted 03-25-2011 02:22 AM

what adds.

-- Chuck, wiswood2

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#34 posted 03-25-2011 02:34 AM

My ONLY complaint about the ads is that they do NOT offer enough free woodworking [equipment/hardwood/machinery/books] to us—the Loyal LumberJocks.

Come on, Martin. Wouldn’t THAT generate both traffic AND a WHOLE LOT of goodwill ???

[to remove all doubt … I’m being—or TRYING TO BE—funny ;-)]

-- -- Neil

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#35 posted 03-25-2011 02:49 AM

Hey Martin thanks for all your work at keeping this a great site for woodworkers. Best site out there!!!

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#36 posted 03-25-2011 03:16 AM

I use Kaspersky Internet Security; its “anti-banner” function seems 100% effective, at least on LJs. However, before I started using it, the ads never bothered me. They’re among the least objectionable on the (my) entire internet.

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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#37 posted 03-25-2011 04:01 AM

The thing that bugs me is letting people join lumberjocks just to advertise products that have nothing to to with woodworking. I think they should be removed at once. I used to welcome new members, but pretty much quit doing it because it was a pain sorting through all the ads on the jocks pages. I always thought new members enjoyed being welcome but I have seen a lot less people welcoming people any more. I do not mind the advertising any where else.

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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#38 posted 03-27-2011 05:28 AM

The ads dont bother me at all. The site has got to make money somehow…after all, thats the point of owning a site like this…to make money.

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#39 posted 03-27-2011 09:36 AM

Ads are not an issue for me. I fully understand the reasons they are there, & some of the ads actually benefit site members.

Awesome site Martin!!! Your discretion in doing what’s necessary to keep this site available & free has my support.

-- Chefshep :) "When we allow our present to quarrel with our past, we risk jeopardizing our future.” - Winston Churchill

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#40 posted 03-27-2011 02:55 PM

Wow, I just logged in from my home computer and the ads are very ACTIVE! They all seem to be doing something, other than just sitting there looking pretty. Ads pay the bills and I don’t know this Martin, so I can’t vouch for him.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#41 posted 03-27-2011 03:33 PM

Funny, the VAST majority of us agree that ads are fine because it pays for the site. Makes me proud to be part of a community that realizes things cost money and don’t begrudge the site creators making a few bucks. That’s a rare think in this word of entitlements and demands for more and more stuff paid for by other people!

ND2ELK- Are you and I talking about the same website? You mean the ads are sooooo bad here that you think the site is not worth it? And you think THIS site is somehow worse than everywhere else as far as ads go? I just don’t see it, man. Sure you aren’t talking about another site? :)

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#42 posted 03-27-2011 03:54 PM

I’m with H-Mike on this. Static ads are not a problem but I detest really intrusive ads that are intended to distract you away from the actual text/document you are trying to read, by flashing animations and produce additional “boxes” you have to cancel before you can continue reading what you wanted to read in the first place.
Advertising is an accepted way for underwriting a site like LJs, but as Neil says – advertisers offer little encouragement for LJs to shop with them. Ads should be informative and alert LJs that their company recognizes LJs as a special group whose business they would like to have. There is no need for them to go on the offensive and produce visually aggressive ads that in effect say “screw you, your gonna look at my ad even if I disrupt your concentration”.
I don’t know about anyone else, but when I go to a page where ads are jumping, flashing and producing pop=ups, then I quickly abort the page and make a mental note of not visiting it again. -So much for mind control advertising.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#43 posted 03-27-2011 04:51 PM

I am always amazed at the ingenuity and entrepreneurial skills of all the successful people in this world, when there success improves my life, especially for free, all the better, thanks to everyone who makes this site a great place to spend time, learn, and enjoy all the talented and interesting people, and in particular to the interesting and talented man who started the whole thing, thanks Martin, thanks for sharing

-- It's Mic Keep working and sharing

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#44 posted 03-27-2011 04:52 PM

Well, I guess there’s two sides to the issue. But I personally don’t see a problem on this site.

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#45 posted 03-27-2011 04:59 PM

I love context-sensitive ads:

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#46 posted 04-22-2011 10:30 PM

You could always try Google Chrome as a browser and install the optional extra ‘Adblocker’. It works I don’t see any ads on LJ’s

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging.

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#47 posted 04-22-2011 10:35 PM

I pretty much have the ads tuned out. They are a small price to pay to be able to intract with everyone here.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#48 posted 04-22-2011 10:40 PM

I think the owners of the site see ads as a big plus …...snigger

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#49 posted 04-22-2011 10:41 PM

Yes I know…..snigger

-- Martyn -- Boxologist, Pattern Juggler and Candyman of the visually challenging.

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#50 posted 04-22-2011 10:43 PM

Adds not a thing wrong they have a reason to be on

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