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Paint Sprayer

by Blozo
posted 03-11-2011 09:56 PM


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Dark_Lightning

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#1 posted 03-11-2011 10:04 PM

Depends on the sprayer. My compressor is 20 gallon and 6 HP and has trouble keeping up with a standard siphon gun. An HVLP gun may do the trick, but I have no experience with them.

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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Earlextech

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#2 posted 03-11-2011 10:14 PM

HVLP is the way to go Micheal. Simple, compact, easy to clean and maintain. About as loud as your shop vac and about the same price range too!

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

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David

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#3 posted 03-12-2011 12:53 AM

I agree with Earlextech, I have a HVLP sprayer from the 80s. It works great and barely stresses a 5 gallon compressor. If you find yourself limited by the compressor, you could hook up a tank in parallel with it for a little more post-regulator flow capacity (http://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html). In my experience once you get the hang of the sprayer and get the settings all dialed in they work quite well.

The only tips I have are practice on scrap first, and don’t let the sprayer reservoir get below about 1/3 full or so (below the pickup). Once it gets too low it will start sucking in air and you’ll get spattering all over. Sometimes it helps to dilute whatever you’re spraying too, for latex paint I typically go about 50-70% paint, the rest plain tap water. It needs more coats but gives a very fine finish.

-- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. --Gandalf the Grey http://davidwahl.org/category/woodworking/

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Blozo

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#4 posted 03-12-2011 01:19 AM

I was thinking about one of those airless HVLP sprayers? appreaciate the tips dmwahl is that 50% paint and 70% water or 70%paint and 50% water how about water base varnish or oil based varnish?

-- eat crap

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Pop

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#5 posted 03-12-2011 02:07 AM

I love my Fuji Q3 HVLP. I’ve had compressor sprayers and HVLP is head and sholders above them.

Pop

-- One who works with his hands is a laborer, his hands & head A craftsman, his hands, head & heart a artist

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Steven H

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#6 posted 03-12-2011 02:19 AM

Pop

Im curious where is the gun made?

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#7 posted 03-12-2011 02:28 AM

I have an Earlex HV5000 … wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it to anyone. Bought mine on sale at Highland Woodworking.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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DLCW

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#8 posted 03-12-2011 04:59 AM

Michael,

If you are going to be doing a lot of spraying moving forward, I would suggest an HVLP system comprised of a turbine (not compressor) and gun. I’ve got a dedicated HVLP turbine that filters and cleans the air, and keeps it at the exact right PSI, giving me an excellent finish every time. There are many makers of these kits, just do a Google search.

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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Blozo

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#9 posted 03-12-2011 05:29 AM

thanks for everyones imput looks like the HVLP system is the way to go.. not one person said anything about a wagner power sprayer so i guess they are not used muched or liked by anyone who had one.. ok I guess it’s time to look for a HVLP system tomorrow. anyone find a good one at home depot or menards fyi?? or a rockler brand, or model sold at rockler?????

-- eat crap

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TheDane

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#10 posted 03-12-2011 03:59 PM

IMHO, the Wagner stuff you see at the box store is junk.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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trainwreck

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#11 posted 03-13-2011 04:19 PM

I borrowed a Wagner sprayer from a friend to paint a fence once. I can definitely say I’d NEVER buy one! Junk is right!

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Earlextech

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#12 posted 03-13-2011 08:31 PM

Michael – At the blue big box look at the 2900 and the 3900. Same machine but the 3900 has extras. About $140.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

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Blozo

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#13 posted 03-14-2011 02:36 AM

thanks for all the advise… we are definately looking at a HPLV with a turbine, Wagner has beed scratched off the list…...... I just love all the helpful people on yhis site…

-- eat crap

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David

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#14 posted 03-21-2011 11:43 PM

That’s 50-70% by volume paint and the rest water, sorry it’s unclear. Basically I just experiment until I get it right. Your results will vary with different paints, but I’ve found about half and half to be a good starting point, and then you can add water to thin it out a little if needed.

-- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. --Gandalf the Grey http://davidwahl.org/category/woodworking/

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pete79

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#15 posted 03-22-2011 06:55 PM

If you’re still looking, I have an Earlex HV5000 that I might be willing to part with. Great system, I just don’t use it enough to justify keeping it around (was an impulse buy). Let me know if you’re interested. They’re about $340 brand new.

-- Life is a one lap race.

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#16 posted 03-22-2011 10:52 PM

I also have a fuji Q3 HVLP its fantastic.

-- Billp

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stefang

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#17 posted 03-23-2011 03:44 PM

No advice, just a story. Back in 1984 my son had a VW beetle. He was a new driver driver and managed to scrape up a front fender. I had a never used Wagner spray gun, the old kind with the plastic bottle screwed onto it. My son used it to repaint the fender in our garage. The result looked totally professional. I am still amazed. I never did actually use it myself.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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D1st

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#18 posted 03-23-2011 04:13 PM

i have the wagner and followed directions to the T. It spattered all over my work piece. Come to find out a piece of metal was jammed into the tip. I took it back to the box store and they told me that they cant take it back. I asked why? The box store worker told me to look at the piece of literature that was provided with product ,notes heavily that once you open box that you cant return it. Basically saying Im screwed. $90 out the door. Hvlp is the way to go. Good luck in your venture.

-- http://www.furstwoodworks.com/

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Blozo

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#19 posted 03-23-2011 09:11 PM

thanks for the advise help and suggestions. unfortunately I am gonna have to pass on a sprayer for the time being.. but you have deffinately helped me in my desisson, lol no wagner sprayer here lol

-- eat crap

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Les

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#20 posted 03-24-2011 02:07 PM

I have an Earlex 5000 and am very happy with it. They have upgraded it to a 5500 with more CFM and pressure, I am sure it is great. Great middle of the road system.

-- Stay busy....Stay young

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Kirk_T

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#21 posted 03-24-2011 10:04 PM

If your looking for a cheap alternative I’ve had really good luck with the Critter sprayer (w/my pancake compressor), I don’t think it compares to an HVLP but is suitable for a number of different projects and is quick and easy to clean up. I usually only need 25-30 psi.

http://www.amazon.com/Critter-Spray-Products-22032-Siphon/dp/B00006FRPJ

-- -Kirk

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harley04

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#22 posted 03-24-2011 10:24 PM

I had a Wagner in the mid 80”s; painted the cement block foundation of my house withj latex paint and it came out great, lasted 20 years. then I painted my boat trailer in the driveway with oil-based and it looked professional. Unfortunately I forgot to put down a tarp so I had the outline of the trailer in the concrete for years. Would I buy another Wagner, NO!

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Grandpa

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#23 posted 03-25-2011 06:01 PM

D1st, I would hasten to say that no warranty is any better than the people that sold the product. The store should have made that good and dealt with the manufacturer for you. That is how to pick the good retailers. Goes back to customer service.
I have read little about the old style paint systems lately. I guess we will al be going the the HVLP systems as our equipment needs to be replaced. It might be better but it brings the DVD vs Blue Ray to mind. About the time a person gets set up the system changes before you can use it then you can spend again. Man, what happened to the 4 track tapes…LOL

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KB1

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#24 posted 03-27-2011 08:03 AM

Yo Grandpa I know what you’re sayin. I’ll buy into a CD player when they guarante me thats the last thing they’re coming up with.. Seriously though, 14 years ago I purchased the Wagner HVLP systen at the time. I was very happy with it. Heck, it made me $20,000 over time. Not bad for a $200 investment. This is not to be confused with the “Power Painter”. A system that will send you to an audioligist sooner than later.
I have recently upgraded to the Earlex 5000. I can recommend it greatly as an entry level tool. If you purchase it be sure to get all the assorted tip sizes so you can spray anything. These guns are easy to clean, just do after every use, don’t be lazy. HVLP vs any other sprayer—no comparison. Buy it, learn to use it, make $$$$

-- KB1KnoB

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Viking

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#25 posted 03-27-2011 08:53 AM

Michael;

We bought the Earlex Model 3000 (now 3500) about a year ago on sale at Woodcraft for $99, when my honey wanted to repaint an already painted cabinet and bench with some oil based enamal for durability. We wanted something simple that would not be difficult for her to use and the Model 3000 fit the bill. Key is to propery thin whatever paint you are using and try it on some scap first to get all adjusted properly. HVLP is all we use now.

Now that spring is here she is anxious to tackle refinish on some outdoor teak furniture we have.

Good luck!

-- Rick Gustafson - Lost Creek Ranch - Colorado County, Texas

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jack30550

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#26 posted 04-12-2011 10:37 AM

I do recommend the paint equipment Dino-power brand, wonderful performance.

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