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Summer Mallet/Hammer Swap 2018

by PoohBaah
posted 04-30-2018 04:26 PM


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#1 posted 04-30-2018 04:43 PM

I am down. So down.

Mallet swap LETS GOoooo!

How you guys been. It’s been a long time since I’ve been posting on LJs. A swap is a great way to get reqacquainted.

I got married and had a little boy since being on here, so lots of changes. I’m excited to start kicking around ideas.

Joseph

@palas_woodcraft on IG

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#2 posted 04-30-2018 04:48 PM

Welcome back to the fold. Congrats on the wedding and also the son. Glad you are going to join us on this one.

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#3 posted 04-30-2018 05:05 PM

I’m in :-)) Welcome Joseph, good looking boy ya got there!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#4 posted 04-30-2018 05:08 PM

Congrats Joseph. I’m still thinking about joining.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#5 posted 04-30-2018 05:30 PM

~ I’m in ~

I’ll start gathering up my Alder Pallet Wood this weekend !!!

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-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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#6 posted 04-30-2018 05:46 PM

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#7 posted 04-30-2018 05:55 PM

I am in. I haven’t done a swap for awhile should be fun.

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#8 posted 04-30-2018 06:25 PM

In my experience, anything softer than white oak or hard maple won’t hold up to heavy banging for too many seasons, so if anyone wants to review a list of ‘hard’ hardwoods, you can find a Janka hardness scale here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test

Just my 2 cents, and maybe not even worth that, but white oak is rated at about 1350 janka hardness (on wood-database), hard maple 1450. Personally, for a joiners mallet, striking with the end grain, I like to keep it above ~1500 and for a carvers mallet, where face/edge grain will be making contact with the chisel/gouge, then I would think even harder wood is going to hold up in the long run. I have some hard maple carvers mallets that are simply destroyed after a few projects but I am hardly careful not to damage the tool face, since im focused on the end result. Maybe something north of 1600/1700 on the janka scale makes more sense. Some will go right to the lignum vitae, and they may be onto something.

I’m considering something in the realm of a rosewood…

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#9 posted 04-30-2018 06:29 PM

Is it safe to say that you’ll tell us who we will be sending to shortly after the progress pic due date? I like the idea of being able to customize the swap goodies but I will be on a tight time schedule and will have to ship out a couple days early. I fly out 7/11 to Alaska for 10 days of fishing :-) I’ll be sure to post pics

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#10 posted 04-30-2018 06:38 PM

Yes Grant, I will send out the recipients info as soon as I have all the progress pictures in and the latest that should be is June 18.

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#11 posted 04-30-2018 06:42 PM

Good points and info Joseph. I will add that where the wood comes from in the tree can have a lot of influence on the longevity of the head as well. I have pieces of Maple and Oak I’ve picked up off the side of the road just because they had crotch sections. Pieces with tight, interlocking grain can last most of forever.

I would love to have some Osage to make some joiners mallets with. I can’t find any locally at all and haven’t found any online that is the size I need at reasonable prices. So if anyone has access to chunks of Osage Orange (Hedge) I’d love to get my hands on a box or two!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#12 posted 04-30-2018 06:55 PM

really great point Kenny,

The crotch is much harder to chisel through, and can cause splitting, but if you are careful, and work in a vise where the split would be contained by the pressure of the vice jaws, you should be ok. And it’s probably worth it for a wood that is rated on the softer side of hard. But really, any hardwood, using common sense based on how heavy and dense it is should, provide a nice beater, so if ya’ll can’t find some good crotch, ya gonna be ok. That being said, i may have to hunt for some crotch…

I have some osage in 7/8ths, that im considering for a handle, but a mallet head of the stuff would be so sweet.

I also have some kingwood that would make a neat handle… dang, so many choices, I may have to make several and pick the best one

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#13 posted 04-30-2018 07:03 PM

Well, mine will be made of AZ woods and some metal I think AND with my bonus item included would cover two of the themes that were eligible for the voting AND they go together so mine covers all the bases. I’m looking forward to getting started on this one.

Hopefully people get fancy and creative, this should be a good swap to really do that with for sure.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#14 posted 04-30-2018 07:05 PM

Dave that didn’t take long.


I m still thinking about joining.

- KelleyCrafts


-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#15 posted 04-30-2018 07:06 PM

I would hate to not join after all of Kenny’s hard work voting for the thing.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#16 posted 04-30-2018 07:09 PM

ljsummerswap18@gmail.com Seems to bounce as a bad email address for me though.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#17 posted 04-30-2018 07:15 PM

should be ljsummerswap2018

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#18 posted 04-30-2018 07:15 PM

I’m in for my first swap. Email sent!

-- Elroy

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#19 posted 04-30-2018 07:17 PM



...That being said, i may have to hunt for some crotch…

- palaswood

Since you’re new to the swaps Joseph, I’m gonna let that one slide. But that’s your only freebie… ;-P

I made this mallet from White Oak about a year ago:

Click for details

I have beat the hell out of this thing. I used it for chopping the big mortises in my work bench, I use it regularly for beating a hatchet for riving small logs and it lives on my bench for setting my holdfasts. It shows no signs of failing anytime soon. It has some serious dents in the endgrain but that’s it.

My point, echoing Joseph’s point, is to use what you have. White Oak isn’t a primary choice for a joiners mallet but I had stock big enough to make a BFH so that’s what I used. And as far as I’m concerned, if it’s survived the last year unharmed after being put through some of the stuff I’ve put it through, I won’t hesitate to use it again!

If you’re researching mallets, don’t get hung up on finding the perfect wood. Use what’s available to you. Some other good choices for wood for you dude’s out west would be Osage Orange and Mesquite which I think are both pretty commonly available out there. In my neck of the woods (Southeast) Mulberry, Locust, Hickory, Sugar Maple should all be pretty solid choices. And there’s almost always somebody cutting one of them down.

I linked this in the pre-swap thread but here it is again for anyone who missed it. Highly recommended.
Making a Mallet with Paul Sellers

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#20 posted 04-30-2018 07:20 PM

Great advice Kenny, I guess everyone does get one.

Also we are up to 7 people signed up already. Great start on our way to 76 since that is how many votes we had.

Get emailing people. This is going to be a good one.

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#21 posted 04-30-2018 07:25 PM

if the email bounces when you copy-n-paste it,
it might be because there are a couple of spaces around the ”@”
and you must close the gaps with no spaces. (I had the same problem).

-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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#22 posted 04-30-2018 07:27 PM

Neil is one of my “buddies” on here so I copied the email from the original post. Neil must have went back and added ‘20’ to the 2018 and I didn’t know. That’s why it bounced for me. He has it in his hands now. I am in this one. I’m totally going to win!

This is a competition right?

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#23 posted 04-30-2018 07:45 PM

Hey, Forge-boy! Make me one like this:

Just curious, any of you dudes other than Dave aspiring/accomplished blacksmiths? If so, make no mistake, you’re definitely allowed to do metal work for this one. That’s why “Hammers” is tacked onto the theme. I know I for one love me some forged hammers…

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#24 posted 04-30-2018 07:49 PM

Neil – add me to the list. You should have my details since you sent me that awesome box

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#25 posted 04-30-2018 08:08 PM

Kenny that hammer is beautiful and I really like that axe as well. I would say an axe would be covered in the mallet/hammer theme since we can use our imagination.

Also if something that amazing would show up, being the moderator, it might just randomly get shipped to me. ;)

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#26 posted 04-30-2018 08:56 PM

I’m in too :)

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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#27 posted 04-30-2018 09:27 PM

So Kenny, funny you should mention mulberry…

Oh and this isnt my first rodeo…

Click for details

I was pretty active on here a few years ago. Did a saw swap as well.

I’ve since made a Sellers style mallet out of the same Mulberry, which is one of my favorite tools I’ve made.


Your white oak mallet looks awesome. I tend to use my thorex hammer mainly, but for big stuff I use the mulberry beater.

Paul Sellers is the man. BTW, everyone, case you didnt know. Now you know.

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#28 posted 04-30-2018 09:38 PM

That’s exactly what I’m talking about Joseph! A couple nice looking mallets but the swap mallet you produced was top notch. I wouldn’t complain if something like that found it’s way to my door at all! Great job! I’m thinking this swap will produce some amazing things.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#29 posted 04-30-2018 10:16 PM

Hey thanks Dave!
I took a look at your site, really nice craftsmanship on those boards and the knives.
My brother-in-law is in Phoenix, he’s a dentist – Great guy, Enrique Wismann, DMD – look him up if you need some work done, he’s really good.
I saw some DIW in his backyard when I was there. A mallet of that would be the bees knees, eh?

I cut some Eucaylyptus that harvested a while ago, but while it was 13% on the outside, it was still 30% moisture on the inside, so thats scratched from the list. Kinda boring anyway, it was just a drab pinkish brown.

I’m going through my stash, and it’s going to be tough to narrow this down. I’ve amassed a pretty gnarly collection of hunks of wood these past few years…

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#30 posted 04-30-2018 10:33 PM

Thanks Joseph.

My brother in law is a dentist as well so I think I’m covered there. Thanks for the recommendation though.

I use a lot of eucalyptus. Mostly the blue gm variety which is very red, nice and hard, and has awesome figure. In fact, it’s in almost all of my projects somewhere. In my neck of the woods we don’t have many trees we could call “huge”, that’s one of them so I always have some to mill down into usable stuff. I like it a lot and definitely wouldn’t consider it boring but it doesn’t sound like the stuff you’re talking about is the same species.

For this swap, I imagine there will be some eucalyptus in the mix somewhere. I might even throw in some DIW as well. I have a decent amount of that laying around but it’s mostly small stuff so we’ll see what I can do.

I started doing some modifications on my forge to hopefully assist with the metal work I want to do for this swap. Should be a good one!

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#31 posted 04-30-2018 10:37 PM

Yeah Dave, I saw your Eucalyptus board, Totally not the same stuff. That board is sick!!!

I use Mulberry like that, try to sneak some into each project. It’s my favorite.

I look forward to seeing some of that metalwork!

Always great to have a DDS in the fam.

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#32 posted 04-30-2018 11:28 PM

I emailed the site about the above spam. dont click on anything.
it’s getting spammed to several major threads currently. should be removed shortly

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#33 posted 05-01-2018 12:10 AM

I emailed but I suppose I need to follow the rules and post here too- I’m in!

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#35 posted 05-01-2018 01:01 AM

Joseph was talking about using desert ironwood for the mallet swap and with all of the talk about wood species, I dug up a couple old pics to throw out there.

One is a plane hammer and one is a carvers mallet. The brass was turned for both of them on a regular wood lathe. Both are ironwood.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#36 posted 05-01-2018 01:09 AM

If you’re researching mallets, don’t get hung up on finding the perfect wood. Use what’s available to you

I’ll second this. My pine scrap mallet lasted almost 18 months, and I used it for pretty much everything including setting holdfasts and whacking a froe to rive out pieces of wood. Wouldn’t be a swap-worthy entry, but it served me well. Had half-inch dents into the end grain when it finally split into two.

Not a crotch-whacker, though. Maybe that was my mistake.

-- Dave - Minneapolis

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#37 posted 05-01-2018 02:09 AM

Oh, I guess I should have followed the recommendation to use what is available. I got so enthusiastic I spent the last 2 hours on the Bell Forest Products website looking at wood. It’s gonna be like Christmas next week when that box arrives. I even got permission and approval for the swap from my better half. She really liked the box I got from Poohbah, plus I think she would rather that I spend more time in the shop and less time watching the idiot box. Or she would like a mallet to play whack-a-mole on my noggin??

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#38 posted 05-01-2018 02:13 AM

I’m In!
Scott

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#39 posted 05-01-2018 02:28 AM

Bell forest products is awesome

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#40 posted 05-01-2018 03:30 AM

Nice mallets Joseph. I have a couple Mulberry logs been drying for a couple years. Might have to crack them open and see how they look inside. Never worked with it before. Are those chisel handles in the pic Mulberry too? Wondering if it would hold up on socket chisels.

Dave’s Eucalyptus is some gorgeous wood. I have a small stash he sent me in a previous swap. Y’all won’t be getting it in swap mallets though ;-). I’m still trying to pry some of that ironwood away from him…

I spent a good bit of time looking for some chunks of Osage Orange for mallet heads and can’t find anything. If anybody knows a source or has some they’d be interested in selling or swapping, yell at me!

Woo Hoo Bill’s here! NOW it’s a party! Pretty impressive turnout for the first day :-))

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#41 posted 05-01-2018 03:45 AM

Honestly, mallets are fairly basic so this should appeal to a lot of people who have been on the edge on these swaps. I think we will get some way over the top mallets out of this.

Let’s go for a record entry folks. Seriously this will be a fun one.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#42 posted 05-01-2018 06:05 AM

Gonna make some nice balsa wood mallets so you can swing ‘em real fast. Might put a pine face on ‘em for durabilitation.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#43 posted 05-01-2018 06:35 AM

Actually no Kenny, those chisel handles are not Mulberry… But this one is!


Its a pretty hard wood, Mulberry. Harder than oak and the stuff I have I would say is almost comparable to Hickory for hardness. It is a gorgeous bright golden yellow that soon turns to a golden brown then finally a chocolate brown. It is my favorite wood. The quartersawn rays can be stunning as seen in the wormy handle.

-- Joseph, Irvine CA, @palas_woodcraft on Instagram

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#44 posted 05-01-2018 07:40 AM

Mulberry is harder than hickory, oak, or hard maple, IIRC, but shock absorbent like hickory and mildly rot resistant. Great for tool handles, mallets, etc.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#45 posted 05-01-2018 10:41 AM

We are up to 10 entries, great start!

-- Neil, Indiana - Instagram: neilsalomon

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#46 posted 05-01-2018 10:50 AM

Thinking, thinking, I have some locust that would make an awesome mallet. 1700 on the scale!

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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#47 posted 05-01-2018 12:44 PM

I like it Joseph :-)) I’ll try a Mulberry socket handle and see how it holds up!

Good to see you back in on this one Rick!

You know you’re gonna play Jeff ;-P

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#48 posted 05-01-2018 01:31 PM

10 entires is a good start! Jeff, just sign up already, there’s no way you’ll pass this one up, I know it already.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#49 posted 05-01-2018 03:33 PM

You guys have me so tempted to join, despite not really having time! Good thing I have a little time to think about it…

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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#50 posted 05-01-2018 03:57 PM

Neil, count me in… I think I have a swap addiction…

EDIT PS I would add to the info a request for a contact phone number in case we run into another issue with getting in touch with someone. Only to be used in ghosting situations.

-- Gary, Texas

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