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grizzley compared to laguna and others

by ibewjon
posted 10-10-2010 03:14 AM


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hokieman

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#1 posted 10-10-2010 03:35 AM

If you research the reviews on Laguna, you will find overwhelming negative responses. I’d stay away from them. Grizzly sprial head cutter jointers get very good reviews.

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Mario

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#2 posted 10-10-2010 03:40 AM

As far as the jointer I would recommend the Hammer 31, this one is my third jointer so far, been working with it for the past couple years and it performs flawlessly. It is a 12” model and the price is comparable to a good quality jointer fitted with a spiral cutterhead.
For the bandsaw, if your budget allows, Powermatic’s PM1800 is my choice. I have never had second thoughts about this purchase, it works perfectly, I own a couple 14” Jet and Powermatic bandsaws, this is the first heavy 18” for me and was purchased with a lot of research behind and experience with Powermatic tools.
Just my 2cents.

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brunob

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#3 posted 10-10-2010 04:24 AM

I’m a Grizzly fan all the way. Terrific customer service. I have a bunch of Grizzly tools with no problem that wasn’t fixed quickly by them.

-- Bruce from Central New York...now, if you'll pardon me, I have some sawdust to make.

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dbhost

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#4 posted 10-10-2010 05:03 AM

I second the suggestion to look at the reviews on Laguna. I see reviews on their stuff on a LOT of different sites, and the opinion of them is pretty low. Poor quality, and poor customer service, with top shelf pricing. That is a recipe for a going out of business sale…

Grizzly has built their business on good tools, at reasonable prices, backed by good customer service. I have a few Grizzly tools, and am happy with almost everything I got from them. What I am unhappy with isn’t Grizzly’s fault, but rather mine…

I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to buy from Grizzly again, and I am one of those that DID hesitate for a LONG time to go with Grizzly…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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newTim

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#5 posted 10-10-2010 06:40 AM

Help? I’ve read many good things about Grizzly and am seriously considering one of their jointers. I wish they made a 10” jointer. Yes, I know I can get a combination jointer/planer, but I don’t want to hassle the changes. Anyway it looks like it will be an 8” jointer with a spiral cutter, but which one? I’d like a mobile one, but am concerned it will move while pushing stock. I have a Yorkcraft with the same type of wheel system and it (the wheel system) never worked well. Maybe it doesn’t weigh enough. Don’t know. Anyway, if anyone has any advice on which Grizzly jointer, or even another manufacturer, I’d appreciate your help. Thanks.

-- tim hill www.newcalshop.com

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Rob Drown

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#6 posted 10-10-2010 06:44 AM

I have Grizzleys 17” bandsaw. Great tool, good price, xlnt service. Blade changes are a bit tedious. I’d buy it again in a heart beat.

-- The expectations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools. Confucius, 经过艰苦的努力的梦想可以成真

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Rileysdad

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#7 posted 10-10-2010 04:20 PM

Tim,
I have a Grizzly GO490 with the integrated mobile base and it’s solid as a rock when the caster wheel is up. I wouldn’t be concerned about it moving during use.

-- Measure twice, cut once, buy extra stock.

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newTim

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#8 posted 10-11-2010 09:24 AM

Rileysdad… thanks. I’m having a hard time figuring out all of Grizzly’s options. Would you know how the 490 compares to their G0656PX? The 490 is $120 more and it looks like the infeed table is longer, otherwise I don’t get it. Thanks.

-- tim hill www.newcalshop.com

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ibewjon

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#9 posted 10-11-2010 11:34 PM

thanks for the help..laguna is OFF the list. what is a hammer 31? a real tool or a joke? on to th griz web site.

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Mario

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#10 posted 10-11-2010 11:51 PM

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wiswood2

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#11 posted 10-12-2010 12:21 AM

I have all grizzly tools 12 all to geather execpt 2, 2 deltals 1 is great and the other would not even make good junk metal. Some of my grizzlys are 16 years old no trobble , would buy every one again. good luck.
Chuck

-- Chuck, wiswood2 www.wisconsinwoodchuck.com

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reggiek

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#12 posted 10-12-2010 12:34 AM

I’ll add my .02cents (USA) and recommend the Grizzly also….they have another group – Polar Bear Series…with white cabinets.. I believe they are a bit cheaper? I have 4 Grizzly tools and I am very happy with their performance….and Grizzly’s customer support….I need a part and it’s there….When I got the planner….the box had been stabbed by something that bent one of the sides of the cabinet. No worries…the new part was there the next day after I called (no referral to the shipper….just support!).

The nightmares I have heard about Laguna are too many to be a fluke….and I know a few folks that have had a nightmare ordering from them. Almost everyone’s tools now a days are assembled in China…(made in many places)...it appears that when Laguna did that…they did not send any of the quality control folks over there….and it sounds like all their customer support folks have lost any motivation to do their jobs….or else they are not given any authority to do anything…A guy I know that bought a Laguna shaper said it was like talking to the IRS…they know nothing…they do nothing – they just want your money.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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mcase

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#13 posted 10-12-2010 01:54 PM

Gotta agree with BoardSMITH. I have knives in my G0490, but it cuts beautifully with plenty of power. Also it has FLAT tables and a true fence. All for $850.00 bucks!

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ibewjon

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#14 posted 10-12-2010 04:09 PM

looked at the hamer site, bandsaw looks like laguna…who copied who??? austrian would be great, but a bit pricey for a home shop.. thanks for the lead.

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Binn

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#15 posted 10-15-2010 04:33 PM

I have 9 Grizzly tools and like them a lot great machinery for the money! Stay away from Laguna , they are nothing but a tool Broker middle man. You can read my review on this website about laguna called (You don’t get what you paid for). I bought Grizzlys G0586 / 8” x 75” Jointer and love it, it does not have the spiral blades but does what I need. Just purchased Grizzlys top of the line sliding table saw used , don’t have it set up yet but I have confidence in Grizzlys products. I hope this helps!

-- Barry, Louisiana

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Xtreme90

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#16 posted 11-12-2010 02:55 PM

If you view my workshop, u will see a pleasant cave filled with tons (literally) of grizzly machinery in which I love! :)

-- "I don't cut wood. I machine it!" G.M. The wood machinest

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peter blair

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#17 posted 09-26-2011 08:13 PM

Hi all. Any Canadian buyers of Grizzly tools. I’m about to purchase a new bandsaw and I know they are shipping to Canada now. BUT I have heard that the shipping is very expensive. I live quite close to the border and would have no trouble driving to Bellingham to pick up what I finally decide on. What I don’t know is how difficult the process is at the border on my return. Has anyone done this? Was it a hassle?

Pete
http://www.woodbowlsandthings.com

-- Pete

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Bertha

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#18 posted 09-26-2011 08:52 PM

I used to consider the Hammers to be in a total different league than the Powermatics or maybe even the Lagunas. Now the prices are actually comparable and 1) the quality of Powermatic and 2) the customer service of Laguna have both gone down. It makes Hammer a very viable option. I’m famous for saying that my next cabinet saw will be a PM but it might very well be a Hammer or vintage Martin/Oliver.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Steven H

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#19 posted 09-26-2011 09:24 PM

I have noticed this when you call customer service. Any company Grizzly, Powermatic, Laguna, General.
Every time you call you will get a different answer.

We expect them to answer our machine problem.
But this is like asking how to setup a jointer and a table saw. They both are different.
Some will be knowledgeable in table saws, some not in jointers, planers,etc.

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knotscott

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#20 posted 09-26-2011 09:58 PM

Grizzly has some nice machinery at a decent price….most is pretty comparable to other good imports like Jet, GI, some Delta, some PM, Steel City, etc. They sell via mail order only unless you’re near one of their 3 showrooms. If you’re willing to be your own middleman, Grizzly equipment can be a good way to cut some costs without cutting quality. If you value the support of a good dealer, you’ll probably need to pay a bit more. Shop Fox is a sister company to Grizzly that sells through retail dealer network, and has a longer warranty…sometimes sale price put similar or identical machines very close in price, so I’d at least investigate Shop Fox too.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Steven H

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#21 posted 09-26-2011 10:16 PM

knotscott

What is your thoughts on Laguna customer service? I have heard good and bad.

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