All Replies on Shop Notes Issues 1 thru Most Current

Check out the Shopnotes yahoo group.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

Try this link…...... I have downloaded several …...

http://www.pcpotato.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=34&func=select&id=17&orderby=2&page=1

You may have to cut and paste as I couldn’t get the link to imbed right…..

Hope this helps

-- Gene, Majestic Eagle Woodworks, http://majesticeagleww.etsy.com/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/majesticeagle/

I have every ShopNotes and just about every Woodsmith… idk how long it would take to send to you. I think its at least 4GB total. Your best to download a Torrent program example (Bittorrent) and then search for them in a creditable torrent search. I got mine that way and they all look great and work fine. I am in process of downloading every issue of Fine Woodworker and Popular Woodworking right now..

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

I like ShopNotes and I got mine the same way Dcase above did.

I think I am beginning to notice they are now just offering more solutions to the same problems they solved before and not necessarily better ones. I was wondering how long they could come up with better jigs, fixtures, and shop furniture before they simply ran out of good ideas. I think they might be getting there. Nice magazine though.

Planeman

-- Always remember half of the people in this country are below average.

Congrats on your copyright violations. Keep it up and before long there will be no ShopNotes.

Thanks on the congratulations! I have the first 100 issues. What do you have?

Planeman

-- Always remember half of the people in this country are below average.

I’m surprised Shop Notes doesn’t make these availabe on CD or online. I was looking a few weeks back for past issues. All I was able to come up with was binders to hold a years work of the magazine:-((

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0

Theft is theft, whether you’re unemployed or not, or the chances of getting caught are slim. This kind of thing isn’t sharing, it’s the same as walking into a store and walking out with a something you didn’t pay for. You aren’t sticking to the man or getting something for nothing, you’re making it harder for people to make a living.

-- Bob Lang, http://readwatchdo.com/

I agree, Bob.

It could be one of the reasons our subscription prices are rising…everyone else pays?

How fair is that?

I am as happy as the next guy to get something for free, but you seriously want 100+ free issues?

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

Go to Barnes and Noble and sit down and read them. Its legalized copyright violation that everyone on this page has violated.

There is at least one that doesn’t sit in Barnes and Noble to read for free:-))

I like free stuff too and have looked at the back issues on that site and probably will more too. I never thought about it being a pirate site before now; maybe a bit naive?, but never thought about it that way. I would buy a CD of back issues if one were available.

I am a online member of FWW so I haven’t got their CD. Not really into furniture making, yet;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0

Never been to a Barnes and Noble, so not me either.

What is it, a book store? They would have all the issues?

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

its what you just described

If you want a legal preview, read the cover of the magazine. Hence why some companies plastic wrap their magazines… so you have to buy it to read the pages.

Thanks for the info. I will find another way. Currently looking at CD from Wood Magazine.

Check Ebay, the trade and swap section of this site and Craigs list. I’ve gotten magazines from all three. Also, the publisher offers back copies – often at a discount.

-- Bruce from Central New York...now, if you'll pardon me, I have some sawdust to make.

I downloaded every issue for free because I couldn’t find anywhere to buy back issues. I don’t feel bad at all because I have a subscription to Woodsmith and I also buy all current Shopnotes off the shelf. I have supported them and have paid for a lot. However the only way I could find to get back issues was to download them. I don’t really see it as stealing. If I printed all of these magazines and sold them then that would be different. Have none of you ever copied a VHS movie before or taped a game off the tv? I don’t think prices are going up due to people downloading them either. Prices are going up because a lot of people are just not getting anymore due to economy. Same reason news paper and even the US mail is hurting. Why have stamp prices gone up so much recently?

Its kind of silly to even get upset about it. Usually the only people who get upset and call it stealing are the people who don’t know how to do it. There is so much worse going on in the world that illegal and is hurting peoples jobs and it does not involve downloading some old magazines that have been photo copied into the computer.

And once again, I have a few years worth of woodsmith magazines and a stack of shopnotes and other misc magazines that I have paid for. I do support these companies and will continue to support them. I guess thats another reason I don’t see it as wrong for me to download some old issues.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

Shop Notes a and Woodsmith are the only ones I get and have for quite awhile. I didn’t know about SN when it started :-(( I’ll check out that WOOD CD, didn’t know they put one out.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0

Wow! I didn’t even know Bob Lang was on LJ’s. I have just about everything he’s ever written. I won’t be downloading any Shop Notes out of respect for his work.

-- You can't control the wind, but you can trim your sails

Dcase,

I have found that back issues of Shopnotes and WoodSmith magazine are routinely offered on EBay and if you are diligent and a “good” shopper you can build a collection of the actual magazines for a reasonable outlay of funds. I have a complete collection of WoodSmith and am currently working on completing my collection of Shopnotes.

Downloading scanned copies of the magazines is a violation of copyright law and contributes to the decline in the publishing industry.

Just my 2 cents worth…

Herb

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

Dcase,

A lot of people know how to download copyright violated materials but choose not to do it. I believe most LJers who post here would have no trouble using a bittorrent client and search engine.

If that’s the argument, I could say that most people who thinks there’s nothing wrong with downloading pirated material, have likely never produced any meaningful work in their life, that they would not want to be stolen or taken for granted by others.

What if you don’t get paid for going to work every day?

-- Ed

You all sit there high and mighty but the truth be known we have all done it and if you can get things free why not if these mags and subs didnt like it they would of put a stop to it a long time ago so stop winghing and Dcase if you have the link ill have it

-- cut it saw it scrap it SKPE: ANDREW.CARTER69

Getting back issues of almost ANY magazine is now available thanks to our fine internet.

PacDad, I am sorry you are in difficult times, but I would suggest visiting the the Shopnotes website at http://www.shopnotes.com/extras/ and look at what you might want to build. Then go to eBay, or wherever, and buy the particular issue you are interested in.

I think everyone can agree that is an acceptable course of action.

-- Beer, Beer, Thank God for Beer. It's my way of keeping my mind fresh and clear...

Copyright Law gives EXCLUSIVE rights to the author or writer to publish and sell his thoughts and ideas on paper. . Just because someone puts it up on the web doesnt’ make it right or legal. You can dance around it all you want but it you don’t pay for it, it’s theft, period.

-- DocK, WV

If anyone wants to get back issues of american woodworker you can go to google books just type in “american woodworker”. Some kind of agreement must have been reached. There is lots of good stuff. I doubt the tool reviews will be too useful though (-:

I know this thread is nearly a year old, and I personally respect the copyright issue when it comes to magazines, books, and such but in a recent search I found something that struck me as very odd.

As I recently shared, I have been given a Motherload of WW resources in hard-copy. In trying to organize the various collections of magazines/books I have searched online for subject matter related to particular periodicals to find out what particular ISSUE a project was in and such. As a matter of fact, I was able to find that a Barrister Bookcase Project was in Issue #96 of FW and I happened to HAVE that issue in my new-to-me WW collection/library.

HOWEVER, when searching for an INDEX for ”ShopNotes” I ran into the oddest situation. Various sources are apparently SELLING this ShopNotes Index as an individual item(buy their downloading service), OR you have to currently subscribe to the ShopNotes periodical. I have +10yr of hard-copy issues, why would I need to do that if all I want is the index to my existing decade of hard-copies?

WTF?!

I am NOT talking about the magazine, NOR the content material, BUT THE FRIGGIN’ INDEX! Huh?! Isn’t that like selling a car without a steering wheel?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

Dan from Grand Rapids

I have use a bit torrent search once but cant remember how to do it if you could give details I would be very greatfull.

As to the people who think it is stealing it is supply and demand the demand is definately there and Shopnotes REFUSES to help in fact they lied to me and said they don’t exist. Having been in newspapers I know how self absorbed some writers are therefore I new they exiisted. I think Shopnotes is missing out on a significant revenue stream because I offered to buy them.

JHW