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Where would you even begin????........

by dakremer
posted 07-18-2010 05:17 AM


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lew

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#1 posted 07-18-2010 05:39 AM

Better yet, how would you get up, out of it, once you sit down?

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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dakremer

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#2 posted 07-18-2010 06:00 AM

no one dare give it a shot????......

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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fussy

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#3 posted 07-18-2010 06:16 AM

How about you sculpt a form out of laminated styrofoam (make it a negative form) then use bending plywood (wiggle wood) around the mold, laminate it with veneer of your choice, trim to final shape, upholster and post pictures when done. Seriously, the hard part would be the mold, but styrofoam is easy to shape, and because the wiggle wood is easy to bend, should be no problem. Just call out the inner sculpter.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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drax0r

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#4 posted 07-18-2010 06:45 AM

I’d carve/sculpt it out of a log.

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dakremer

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#5 posted 07-18-2010 07:09 AM

that would have to be a pretty big log…..what if you wanted those lines…those individual pieces of wood….then what??? haha – this is not a quiz…thats a question :)

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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drax0r

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#6 posted 07-18-2010 07:15 AM

I can’t tell of those are raised or carved in – it’d be a huge project either way to carve it.

I’d guess that this was probably just bent wood.

http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsArticle.aspx?id=29137

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childress

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#7 posted 07-18-2010 07:24 AM

bent laminations with a bunch of jigs to cut miters on the table saw and then glued together. That’s how I would approach it….

-- Childress Woodworks

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tdv

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#8 posted 07-18-2010 11:41 AM

WHY?

-- God created wood that we may create. Trevor East Yorkshire UK

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tdv

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#9 posted 07-18-2010 11:48 AM

Sorry about that but I think a chair like this is just an artistic excercise, the old form over function argument & I would say although intriguing & possibly an adornment, it would have practical strength & comfort issues long term. So the answer to my previous response would be because we could & although I could I Wouldn’t
Best
Trevor
By the way it would have to be built up laminations with the inside formed out of bendy ply as Fussy said the only problem wit bendy ply is when you buy it you choose which direction is bendy, across the grain or with it, one direction is only slightly softer than normal ply the other is quite floppy so it would have to be cut into narrow strips & built up like a “Carvel” planked boat. If you have seen that 50’s & 60’s Scandinavian plywood formed furniture that was done with a mould pressing the individual veneer leaves of the ply into that shape whilst gluing
Cheers

-- God created wood that we may create. Trevor East Yorkshire UK

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Toolz

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#10 posted 07-18-2010 12:29 PM

Arbortech in Perth, Australia has a website that might help. Years ago they had furniture projects. Basically you could cut many many semi circular slices of plywood in decreasing sizes and laminate them to your basic shape. Then using an Arbortech grinder do your final shaping and sanding. You could then laminate veneer on the outside and upholster the inside. Project would take lots of plywood and lots of shaping and sanding but should be structurally sound.

-- Larry "Work like a Captain but Play like a Pirate!"

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Moron

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#11 posted 07-18-2010 01:09 PM

multiple layers of wiggle wood to make a form, a vacumn press and lots and lots of time

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Ger21

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#12 posted 07-18-2010 01:19 PM

Looks like the original is about 10 separate bent laminations joined together.

If using solid wood, you’d make the same 10 pieces. Basically just arcs. Cut them in 12-18” lengths and stagger the joints (bricklay) for strength, so you don’t have any endgrain.

Once you’re pieces are done, just glue them together. Basically just edge glued joints.

-- Gerry, http://g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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Gregn

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#13 posted 07-18-2010 02:54 PM

I would begin with getting a vacuum press and start making the forms for the laminations. As for getting the upholstery to stay in place is a whole other question to work on. Have fun, bet this challenges your skills.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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CharlieM1958

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#14 posted 07-18-2010 03:32 PM

Just think…. you could make and sell these for profit, then, after a month of sitting in them, the buyers would be back for you to work on their aching backs. More profit! :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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dakremer

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#15 posted 07-18-2010 03:57 PM

haha – that was exactly my thought charlie!!! win win :) :)

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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dakremer

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#16 posted 07-18-2010 04:01 PM

This one might be easier than the original chair posted. I love the curved wood – not necessarily these two chairs, but i would love to design a chair or something with a curve like these.
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-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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dakremer

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#17 posted 07-18-2010 04:02 PM

from picture above…would you bend all the pieces first…then glue them…then cut the rounded shape???

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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Ger21

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#18 posted 07-18-2010 04:13 PM

Laminate them with vacuum, and route them to shape afterward. The bending and gluing is one step with the vacuum.

-- Gerry, http://g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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Les Casteel

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#19 posted 07-18-2010 05:10 PM

I would use plywood laminations. Search on google for: David Delthony, or Julie Krantz.

-- Les, Arkansas, www.woodthatrocks.com

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John Ormsby

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#20 posted 07-18-2010 06:28 PM

This is a simple technique. Looks great though.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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sras

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#21 posted 07-18-2010 08:16 PM

One way to build the unit at the top would be to use techniques similar to building a strip kayak or canoe. It might be cheating since a layer of clear fiberglass on each side to gain the strength…

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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lwllms

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#22 posted 07-18-2010 08:22 PM

You might be interested in the work of John Henry Belter, a 19th Century furniture maker. Some 20th Century Bauhaus furniture was also made of formed plywood much like that in your second photo.

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newplane

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#23 posted 07-18-2010 08:30 PM

I would make a fiberglass shell that I would attach the wood to and then the foam and leather-work.

-- Dont just dream it, get up and live it!

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Dennisgrosen

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#24 posted 07-18-2010 08:50 PM

the secon chair cuold one layer of the lamnation bee cut first
and then you just follow the edge with a router after the glue has dry on a form
but that is only if you want to make a few of them

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MrRon

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#25 posted 07-18-2010 10:32 PM

I would start by steam bending each segment to the final shape, or as close as possible. The tiny strip, I assume is an accent strip, would be bent and glued to each segment. I would then bevel, fit and glue each segment to each other. The final shape would then be refined by sanding and sculpting. The upholstry I would leave for someone with such skills. The metal work is a no brainer.
Why would someone build one like this? Because it could bring many thousands of dollars and prestige.

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groland

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#26 posted 07-18-2010 11:24 PM

I had a friend who was a lute builder (luthier) and lutes have a pear shaped back of curved, tapered slats that remind me a lot of this chair’s form.

Think of peeling an orange and sectioning it by its own segments into a hemisphere. Each orange section is a wedge with flat sides coming to a point and a curved face opposite.

If you take one section and bend some thin slats of wood to conform to the curve you can attach it to the curve and use the sides of the section to plane the edges to mate with the next section. Once all the sections are so planed, the whole may be edge-glued over a solid form (representing the original half-orange.) Fiberglas and resin can be used along the seams inside for added strength.

Lutes are pear-shaped so the sections would not really be a hemisphere, but maybe you get the idea?

George

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jkress

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#27 posted 07-19-2010 07:59 PM

I would have to agree with some sort of bent lamination. My parents just got a Stressless recliner and ottoman that has curved laminated legs and base made with European beech (read it in the brochure that they had). It is similar to the photo below.

It would definitely take some time to get everything laminated and bent in to shape to make the the first chair posted.

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edgarO

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#28 posted 07-19-2010 10:55 PM

The picture of the Eames lounge chair is made of bent plywood with a veneer. Charles and Ray Eames started mass manufacturing this style in the 50’s
DCW

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langski93

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#29 posted 07-19-2010 11:04 PM

I would go get Gougeon Brothers On Boat Construction: Wood and West Systems Material. Amazon has it. It will teach you about cold molding and dealing with compound curves. langski

-- Langski, New Hampshire

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Rick

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#30 posted 07-22-2010 10:58 AM

edgarO:

Good For You!! I’m surprised it took so long for someone to recognize what is probably the Most Classic Lounge Chair ever produced …..The Eames Lounge Chair (670) and Ottoman (671).

It has a permanent home in the New York Museum Of Modern Art. I Loved this design so much that I purchased one, used, ORIGINAL Brazilian Rosewood, from a Private Source around 1980 for Apprx. $4,000.00

It was designed by the Eames and manufactured by Herman Miller in 1956, and still is today. Of course there are Dozens of knock offs also.

The first ones were made with 5 layers of Brazilian Rosewood until the wood became an Endangered Species. Today they are 7 Layers and a choice of 3 or 4 different types of wood.

The New Ones Retail at “Exclusive Dealers” for about $4/5,500.00 with the Ottoman and depending on the options you choose. An ORIGINAL (Brazilian Rosewood) at Auction will fetch anywhere from $8,000.00 To $10,000.00. Unfortunately mine was “Disposed Of” (Don’t Ask!) a number of years ago.

What makes them so Famous? Well… Dr. House has one in his office on House. Frazier Crane has one on Frazier…LOL.. (Actually they do).

Eames Measure Large

Eames Back Medium

As for the Chair? On Top? Why Bother!! ;-}

Rick

-- How long is a Minute? That depends on which side of the Bathroom Door You're On!

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