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Stain or Dye, what's your preference?

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I've been playing around with stains and dyes, trying to figure out which I liked better, then it dawned on me - why not ask the pros? what do you prefer, and why? what are some of the draw backs? do you prefer oil based, water based, gel or liquid? Thanks for your opinions!
 
#2 ·
My understanding is that for dense woods like hard maple, dyes work better because they don't have the (relatively speaking) big bits of pigment and will penetrate better. Stains are fine on less dense woods. Also, there are issues such as fading to consider . . .
 
#5 ·
You can answer the question yourself by continuing to "playing around" with them on different projects until you can decide what's best for each project. Different strokes for different folks.
 
#6 ·
I'm also a fan of Transfast dyes. I used their dark walnut dye on some hard maple with a few coats of shellac and it really popped the grain. I used it mixed with water because it was my first time working with dye, but I think next time I may experiment a little more and mix it with something else.
 
#7 ·
Think Clink hit the nail on the head play around with both dyes and stains.

Wood stains mostly thinned paint and easy to use.

Aniline dyes come in powder or liquid form and mixed with water, alcohol, or petroleum solvent. Water mix said to give better clarity and light fastness.

India ink can be opaque and translucent depending upon color.

Not sure how well all dyes, inks, and stains hold up under indirect or full sun light over time. Woods will either darken or get lighter with age regardless of top coat finish.

Some species of wood (soft or hard) prone to blotching whether use dye or stain. Best to read product instructions before use to combat blotching.

Some dyes & stains mixed with topcoat finish provide excellent results. Waterborne top coats may cause water mixed dyes to run giving a muddy appearance.
 
#9 ·
Used stains for years, then discovered dyes about three years ago. They both have their places, but the stains do have bigger pigment chunks, which make them less effective on tight grained woods, such as maple.
Dyes are very finely ground pigments and penetrate almost immediately. On the other hand, dyes can splotch faster due to quicker penetration, but often come in odd, non-wood colors like yellow and green.
I keep dark blue, blood red, and bright yellow dye to be able to mix almost anything when needed, like a purple color.
Most of my stains are woody colors, like walnut, ebony and mahogany.
 
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