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#1 posted 09-17-2012 04:49 PM


the teacher is the very person who has the authority and responsibility in taking the students inside the shop Not totally correct. The school principal and counselors who schedule the number of students into the class have a responsibility as well. It is difficult to observe all students in a class with large numbers of students. About four years ago when I was an school district administrator over Trade and Industrial classes, I walked into a Carpentry class. It was overloaded with students. I asked the teacher how many students were on the roll. He said 42!!!!! I immediately went and had a talk with the one person that could do something about that, the principal. His reply, “Where am I supposed to put them?”

However, the teacher ultimately does decide when the student has proven that they have the knowledge to go to work in the shop. “Shop teachers” typically document that they have demonstrated a machine to each student. The student typically takes a safety test that they must pass with a score of 100%. Typically a student must demonstrate the safe use of the machine to the teacher. Only then will the student be allowed to operate the machine. Did the teacher take all of these actions? We don’t KNOW. A teacher with 29 years of experience would most likely do so.

Safety precautions and measures should have been observed before allowing the students get inside the shop. Do you KNOW that did not happen? Nothing I have read in any of the news reports indicates that those precautions did not take place.

Orientation must have been observed before going to the machines. Again, do you KNOW that such an orientation did not occur?

Those who have long hair should have been pinned and tied or wrapped their hair with a hair net.” Do you KNOW that did not happen? Another news account quotes the student as saying she knew to keep her hair tied back. If she knew that, it appears that there was a safety rule in place to cover such a situation.

These measures should have avoided the tragedy from happening.” Even if the measures were in place, the accident could have happened. The student was human and humans make mistakes! If the teacher took all the measures you describe, there is no guarantee that the accident would have been prevented.

I hate to get on my soap box here again. I just don’t like to see people jump on the teacher without knowing all the facts.

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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